Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
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Posted - 2015.08.31 09:15:00 -
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In summary, you want dropships fitting and prices to mimic tanks. I think it is a bad idea.
Your starting with the current ADS as the base, but experience shows, this wont happen. What rattati did was structure tank fitting by tier. Current ADS would get a relative fitting nerf. Standard ADS would be based around standard modules, advanced ADS around half advanced / basic modules and the pro ADS on half pro/ adv modules. Turrets would be near impossible to fit on lower dropship.
The current ADV dropships would become the proto type variants because we can scratch out some pro moules on them.
Combine that with pricing increase. If you redisign swarms to know out Pro dropships, the adv and standard dropships instantly become obsolete. Combine that with the zero pilot manuevers available to avoid swarms hits within 400+ m of being shot at. Without the pro modules to survive that, let alone forge gun hits, the low price of AV (chepest proto weapons by nearly 50% in the market) let alone officer AV, this effectivley eliminates all options but the proto one.
687,000 for the same fits we have now, reads as an acroos the board nerf.
Lets just go with what we have now.
STD dropships are pure transport.
ADV dropships are assault
Pro dropships sould be pure support. Logi dropships.
I would rather have the Logi Droship return as the PRO variant. High PG CPU, slot layout of the standard ships, manuevarabilty of ADS, zero nose cannon.
- Returns already premade assets into the game
- Isn't an I win Button (firepower with gunners still dominated by Assault ships, gunners no more effective than on a STD ship)
- Doesnt entail trying to rebalance an enitre class of vehicles and AV to compensate.
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
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Posted - 2015.08.31 10:10:00 -
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I'm going by the tank balance experience.
Right now, my Incubus fit is
Enhanced Afterburner
Pro turret (misile and rail)
complex light rep
complex 60mm plate
enhanced hardner
Even though its light modules, they are protoype modules. Unless rattati says otherwise, i have no reason to believe (given the tank balance experience) he won't balance standard drop ships around standard modules. Your only assuming that they are standard in nature based on thier performance, but according to thier fitting capacity for light modules (which are meant for dropships and LAVS) the ADS class are at least ADV if not Proto.
So if we have the three tiers its a safe bet that the current one would be the proto class. Hence your proto price tage would be applied to it.
I dont see the variation you are talking about. I leave the Pythons for the python pilots, but for the incubus 1/4 means
Afterburner
2 hardeners
Plate
Rep
Same vanilla fit, but with a extra HP mod of choice. And that would seriously be OP. Its hard enough taking down a double hardened tank, let alone a double hardened incubus with 3k+ armor. Double hardned incubi barely work now, because they have to sacrifice so much HP for it.
If we went through with your proposal, i would much rather have a second high slot. Damage mod or heat sink or scanner would help immensly, and i cannot give up my afterburner.
Bringing back an old asset isn't as hard as it seems because it doesnt need to be rebalanced around everything at once. Tanks had to get revamped from top to bottom.
Just takes two ships which are already in the system, a few number crunches and there you go.
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
"I sometimes wonder why I share stuff "- CCP Rattati
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