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JAKE REDBLOOD
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Posted - 2015.08.29 22:20:00 -
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Enjoyed the fights today, good fun! o7
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Spaceman-Rob
Standby Retaliation
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Posted - 2015.08.29 22:38:00 -
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Yea good game guys, you beat us fair and square, no excuses this end. O7 |
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CUSE TOWN333
Ancient Exiles.
3
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Posted - 2015.08.29 23:11:00 -
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much respect to your team those were crazy even battles. but dem youtube vids would be great.
AEs Diplomat. contact me in game with any questions. AEs ringing price 2mill per merc 30mill for whole team.
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JAKE REDBLOOD
Standby Retaliation
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Posted - 2015.08.29 23:21:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:much respect to your team those were crazy even battles. but dem youtube vids would be great.
The first two were lag fests.. But I might be able to upload the last match :)
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Mejt0
Made in Poland... E-R-A
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Posted - 2015.08.29 23:24:00 -
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Yup, not bad at all. Sorry for second battle though. My fps dropped beyond low.
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CUSE TOWN333
Ancient Exiles.
3
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Posted - 2015.08.30 02:37:00 -
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JAKE REDBLOOD wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:much respect to your team those were crazy even battles. but dem youtube vids would be great. The first two were lag fests.. But I might be able to upload the last match :) it would be cool if you put all 3 battles up no shame in getting REKTTTTT on that production facilitie. #honor![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
AEs Diplomat. contact me in game with any questions. AEs ringing price 2mill per merc 30mill for whole team.
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
3
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Posted - 2015.08.30 02:57:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:JAKE REDBLOOD wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:much respect to your team those were crazy even battles. but dem youtube vids would be great. The first two were lag fests.. But I might be able to upload the last match :) it would be cool if you put all 3 battles up no shame in getting REKTTTTT on that production facilitie. #honor ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) we would like some nice theme music if you could mix up some regga bounty killer or some lil rease traffic. While your preaching tell RG to do the same. |
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JAKE REDBLOOD
Standby Retaliation
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Posted - 2015.08.30 13:35:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:JAKE REDBLOOD wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:much respect to your team those were crazy even battles. but dem youtube vids would be great. The first two were lag fests.. But I might be able to upload the last match :) it would be cool if you put all 3 battles up no shame in getting REKTTTTT on that production facilitie. #honor ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) we would like some nice theme music if you could mix up some regga bounty killer or some lil rease traffic.
Don't believe we got rekttt on any of the 3battles.. But the first 2 wouldn't be a good watch with some of that crazy American lag :)
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DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles.
1
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Posted - 2015.08.30 13:57:00 -
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I havent had lag bombs like that in a while. Bridge map tends to be the lagiest especially on that particular facility
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DEATH THE KlD
Imperfect - Bastards
363
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Posted - 2015.08.30 16:17:00 -
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JAKE REDBLOOD wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:JAKE REDBLOOD wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:much respect to your team those were crazy even battles. but dem youtube vids would be great. The first two were lag fests.. But I might be able to upload the last match :) it would be cool if you put all 3 battles up no shame in getting REKTTTTT on that production facilitie. #honor ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) we would like some nice theme music if you could mix up some regga bounty killer or some lil rease traffic. Don't believe we got rekttt on any of the 3battles.. But the first 2 wouldn't be a good watch with some of that crazy American lag :) Get the server..if you are then you're doing something wrong |
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JAKE REDBLOOD
Standby Retaliation
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Posted - 2015.08.30 16:58:00 -
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DEATH THE KlD wrote:JAKE REDBLOOD wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:JAKE REDBLOOD wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:much respect to your team those were crazy even battles. but dem youtube vids would be great. The first two were lag fests.. But I might be able to upload the last match :) it would be cool if you put all 3 battles up no shame in getting REKTTTTT on that production facilitie. #honor ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) we would like some nice theme music if you could mix up some regga bounty killer or some lil rease traffic. Don't believe we got rekttt on any of the 3battles.. But the first 2 wouldn't be a good watch with some of that crazy American lag :) Get the server..if you are then you're doing something wrong
Getting the server doesn't always make a difference. Especially when it's Europeans vs Americans... You obviously don't PC enough :)
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Dust User
0uter.Heaven without RICANS
3
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Posted - 2015.08.30 17:13:00 -
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If lag truly determined battles you would all be bowing down to the lag hope right now but we all know how that ended.
Lag is part of the pc mechanics at this point so shut up and deal with it or just buy a ps4 already and move on.
Dust User for CPM 3.
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DEATH THE KlD
Imperfect - Bastards
363
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Posted - 2015.08.30 17:15:00 -
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I PC more than you bud..and getting the server is critical..if the "Americans" get it then the server is what 4-5k miles from you? But there's also other things, contacts, mail, fits delete all, put on lowest resolution get an ssd, use Ethernet and not wifi..but of course what would I know I don't pc |
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CUSE TOWN333
Ancient Exiles.
3
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Posted - 2015.08.30 17:27:00 -
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it has all ways been hard to have euro vs american battles because the lag will end up screwing someone. but the point was when Standby made a big deal a couple weeks ago when the beat AE to throw that youtube video every where when we were crippled with lag. so making excuses about not wanting to put yesterdays battles up because they say they lost because of lag is classic from the youtube Fuk bois. the all most won one of those battles nothing to be ashamed of.
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.08.30 17:58:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:it has all ways been hard to have euro vs american battles because the lag will end up screwing someone. but the point was when Standby made a big deal a couple weeks ago when the beat AE to throw that youtube video every where when we were crippled with lag. so making excuses about not wanting to put yesterdays battles up because they say they lost because of lag is classic from the youtube Fuk bois. the all most won one of those battles nothing to be ashamed of. the best youtube guy has all way been Richard Gamerich because he put all PC battles up win or lose good game or bad game. Jake is a great PC player i have seen him in hundreds of fights just don't let that Sax style rub off on you were you shift through hours of footage to find your better moments. we all know PC is clunky thats why its not a track meet to win one battle then run around and pretend to be king of the hill. AE and OH have been fighting every night and there are many outcomes depending on whos online or bad deployment or the lag. BrotherofHavok is pretty consistent too but this whole KTB style of posting is not all that interesting if you post only 95%+ of wins their is no suspense I pretty much know who won without seeing or being in the game. Porsche did the same thing we 5 cap RG twice no videos we ring for someone using 12 or less FA lose twice both are up edited and posted to the forums within 6 hours. We get 5 capped and have a pretty close epic comeback win in which he does ok it's been 30+ hours no video. I can understand not posting 2 embarrassing 5 caps but to then post your wins and not post a close loss... |
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D4GG3R
0uter.Heaven
1
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Posted - 2015.08.30 19:51:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:it has all ways been hard to have euro vs american battles because the lag will end up screwing someone. but the point was when Standby made a big deal a couple weeks ago when the beat AE to throw that youtube video every where when we were crippled with lag. so making excuses about not wanting to put yesterdays battles up because they say they lost because of lag is classic from the youtube Fuk bois. the all most won one of those battles nothing to be ashamed of. the best youtube guy has all way been Richard Gamerich because he put all PC battles up win or lose good game or bad game. Jake is a great PC player i have seen him in hundreds of fights just don't let that Sax style rub off on you were you shift through hours of footage to find your better moments. we all know PC is clunky thats why its not a track meet to win one battle then run around and pretend to be king of the hill. AE and OH have been fighting every night and there are many outcomes depending on whos online or bad deployment or the lag. BrotherofHavok is pretty consistent too but this whole KTB style of posting is not all that interesting if you post only 95%+ of wins their is no suspense I pretty much know who won without seeing or being in the game. Porsche did the same thing we 5 cap RG twice no videos we ring for someone using 12 or less FA lose twice both are up edited and posted to the forums within 6 hours. We get 5 capped and have a pretty close epic comeback win in which he does ok it's been 30+ hours no video. I can understand not posting 2 embarrassing 5 caps but to then post your wins and not post a close loss... Why would I want people to watch me lose
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DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles.
1
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Posted - 2015.08.30 22:04:00 -
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another win today, still no video, well give you until we flip the district tomorrow to post the video or we are kicking you out of pc. You decide.
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The KTM Duke
0uter.Heaven
858
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Posted - 2015.08.30 22:07:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:another win today, still no video, well give you until we flip the district tomorrow to post the video or we are kicking you out of pc. You decide. is that what you wake up for in the morning? See if you are on youtube for a videogame, lol OP
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DEATH THE KlD
Imperfect - Bastards
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Posted - 2015.08.30 22:08:00 -
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The KTM Duke wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:another win today, still no video, well give you until we flip the district tomorrow to post the video or we are kicking you out of pc. You decide. is that what you wake up for in the morning? See if you are on youtube for a videogame, lol OP That's what I do |
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JAKE REDBLOOD
Standby Retaliation
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Posted - 2015.08.30 22:33:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:another win today, still no video, well give you until we flip the district tomorrow to post the video or we are kicking you out of pc. You decide.
That's not very nice now considering you wanted to merge earlier... I was gonna post a video, but now I'm not so sure.. I'm not sure what control you think you have over me but it makes me laugh. 'Ohhhh AE so oppppppp', just about scraping a win against a new corp.
I have a itch on my balls, think you can scratch em for me?
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DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles.
1
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Posted - 2015.08.30 22:45:00 -
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JAKE REDBLOOD wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:another win today, still no video, well give you until we flip the district tomorrow to post the video or we are kicking you out of pc. You decide. That's not very nice now considering you wanted to merge earlier... I was gonna post a video, but now I'm not so sure.. I'm not sure what control you think you have over me but it makes me laugh. 'Ohhhh AE so oppppppp', just about scraping a win against a new corp. I have a itch on my balls, think you can scratch em for me?
i did think about it, till you decided to poach my butt buddy Danja, i Don't take that lightly.
I don't think i hold any power or control over you. I just think that i can kick you out of PC.
Good to finally see 16 Standby though, I just hope you can stop getting 5 capped every game.
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Spaceman-Rob
Standby Retaliation
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Posted - 2015.08.30 23:00:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:another win today, still no video, well give you until we flip the district tomorrow to post the video or we are kicking you out of pc. You decide.
You're a fcking idiot mate, you must take us all for a bunch of pussies, I'm surprised anyone would choose to fight along side you/ for you. I know I wouldn't, you can stick your merge where the sun don't shine. |
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JAKE REDBLOOD
Standby Retaliation
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Posted - 2015.08.30 23:02:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:JAKE REDBLOOD wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:another win today, still no video, well give you until we flip the district tomorrow to post the video or we are kicking you out of pc. You decide. That's not very nice now considering you wanted to merge earlier... I was gonna post a video, but now I'm not so sure.. I'm not sure what control you think you have over me but it makes me laugh. 'Ohhhh AE so oppppppp', just about scraping a win against a new corp. I have a itch on my balls, think you can scratch em for me? i did think about it, till you decided to poach my butt buddy Danja, i Don't take that lightly. I don't think i hold any power or control over you. I just think that i can kick you out of PC. Good to finally see 16 Standby though, I just hope you can stop getting 5 capped every game.
Yeah at the end, for around one minute lol. He left on his own accord...something to do with you being a dickhead or something along those lines.. :)
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.08.30 23:04:00 -
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D4GG3R wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:it has all ways been hard to have euro vs american battles because the lag will end up screwing someone. but the point was when Standby made a big deal a couple weeks ago when the beat AE to throw that youtube video every where when we were crippled with lag. so making excuses about not wanting to put yesterdays battles up because they say they lost because of lag is classic from the youtube Fuk bois. the all most won one of those battles nothing to be ashamed of. the best youtube guy has all way been Richard Gamerich because he put all PC battles up win or lose good game or bad game. Jake is a great PC player i have seen him in hundreds of fights just don't let that Sax style rub off on you were you shift through hours of footage to find your better moments. we all know PC is clunky thats why its not a track meet to win one battle then run around and pretend to be king of the hill. AE and OH have been fighting every night and there are many outcomes depending on whos online or bad deployment or the lag. BrotherofHavok is pretty consistent too but this whole KTB style of posting is not all that interesting if you post only 95%+ of wins their is no suspense I pretty much know who won without seeing or being in the game. Porsche did the same thing we 5 cap RG twice no videos we ring for someone using 12 or less FA lose twice both are up edited and posted to the forums within 6 hours. We get 5 capped and have a pretty close epic comeback win in which he does ok it's been 30+ hours no video. I can understand not posting 2 embarrassing 5 caps but to then post your wins and not post a close loss... Why would I want people to watch me lose The whole reason for having a YouTube channel is to entertain your viewers. Frankly close fights are the most entertaining which is why I said I didn't care that they didn't post the losses that were not close but having a YouTube channel and posting video's is for other people so if a loss is more entertaining then a win the loss is the better post. |
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JAKE REDBLOOD
Standby Retaliation
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Posted - 2015.08.30 23:19:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:it has all ways been hard to have euro vs american battles because the lag will end up screwing someone. but the point was when Standby made a big deal a couple weeks ago when the beat AE to throw that youtube video every where when we were crippled with lag. so making excuses about not wanting to put yesterdays battles up because they say they lost because of lag is classic from the youtube Fuk bois. the all most won one of those battles nothing to be ashamed of. the best youtube guy has all way been Richard Gamerich because he put all PC battles up win or lose good game or bad game. Jake is a great PC player i have seen him in hundreds of fights just don't let that Sax style rub off on you were you shift through hours of footage to find your better moments. we all know PC is clunky thats why its not a track meet to win one battle then run around and pretend to be king of the hill. AE and OH have been fighting every night and there are many outcomes depending on whos online or bad deployment or the lag.
I'm gonna post a few vids soon. We actually didn't blame the lag for losing the PCs, you won, there was nothing else to it. I said I wouldn't upload the first 2 cause the lag wouldn't be worth watching. I'll upload the Last PC from yesterday. And the match today.. But it has nothing to do with your fuk boi rampage.
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DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.08.30 23:54:00 -
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I love Euros :)
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Natalia's P3nis
Fake Ancient Exiles. 2.0
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Posted - 2015.08.31 00:01:00 -
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JAKE REDBLOOD wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:it has all ways been hard to have euro vs american battles because the lag will end up screwing someone. but the point was when Standby made a big deal a couple weeks ago when the beat AE to throw that youtube video every where when we were crippled with lag. so making excuses about not wanting to put yesterdays battles up because they say they lost because of lag is classic from the youtube Fuk bois. the all most won one of those battles nothing to be ashamed of. the best youtube guy has all way been Richard Gamerich because he put all PC battles up win or lose good game or bad game. Jake is a great PC player i have seen him in hundreds of fights just don't let that Sax style rub off on you were you shift through hours of footage to find your better moments. we all know PC is clunky thats why its not a track meet to win one battle then run around and pretend to be king of the hill. AE and OH have been fighting every night and there are many outcomes depending on whos online or bad deployment or the lag. I'm gonna post a few vids soon. We actually didn't blame the lag for losing the PCs, you won, there was nothing else to it. I said I wouldn't upload the first 2 cause the lag wouldn't be worth watching. I'll upload the Last PC from yesterday. And the match today.. But it has nothing to do with your fuk boi rampage.
Don't give into those fgts. Cuse is trolling you. He's just using different tactics.
Post the videos but make those b!tches private. All those other n!gas can lick a tiny shriveled up clitdik. |
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JAKE REDBLOOD
Standby Retaliation
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Posted - 2015.08.31 00:36:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:I love Euros :)
I love high headed fcks
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CUSE TOWN333
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.08.31 01:02:00 -
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yeah im just trolling a little. but on a side note i think some of the new dust players would like to see intense high level down to the wire battles. im happy to see life in this game and everyones got to be enjoying these battles.
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viper xsniper
Standby Retaliation
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Posted - 2015.08.31 03:01:00 -
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rampage do you live on the forums ? and trive on beating small corps? |
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