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LT SHANKS
You In The Nutz
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Posted - 2015.08.27 04:50:00 -
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This question most likely has been asked before, but in your opinions, what are the best suits for each class and why?
Minmatar Commando - Great AV and area denial/overwatch. In Domination, can single-handedly prevent the opposition from hacking the objective. Makes quick work of Dropships.
Gallente Scout - The best Scout there is due to its inherent low profile and slot layout.
Gallente Logistics - Permascanner. While not as efficient as the Minmatar or Amarr Logistics in terms of gaining WP, this suit has the ability to lead teams to victory by keeping track of 90% of the red dots on the field.
Amarr Assault - Most efficient assault for "slaying." As many would know, laser weaponry is no joke: often leading many to complain that ScRs are just too overpowered.
Amarr Sentinel - The tankiest of all Heavy suits. In terms of raw hp, no suit can beat the Amarr Sentinel. With proper medic support and a decent handling of the AHMG, this suit can prevent anyone from closing in on an objective.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
10
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Posted - 2015.08.27 04:51:00 -
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I use all suits pretty much. So my opinion of "best" is entirely situational.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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VAHZZ
RabbitSwarm
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Posted - 2015.08.27 04:54:00 -
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The Amarr Sentinel is not the best, it is a sitting duck and relies purely on logis, whereas the Gallente and Matari Sentinels don't. The GalSent is it's own logi with the ridiculous reps. The Matari Sentinel is the fastest truck, and has great bulk.
The AmSent may have the best armor, but it is dead without a logi.
And when I AmSent, even in PCs, there are no damn logis around....
Co-Founder of RabbitSwarm
"I fear all you have done is awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."
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LT SHANKS
You In The Nutz
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Posted - 2015.08.27 04:59:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:The Amarr Sentinel is not the best, it is a sitting duck and relies purely on logis, whereas the Gallente and Matari Sentinels don't. The GalSent is it's own logi with the ridiculous reps. The Matari Sentinel is the fastest truck, and has great bulk.
The AmSent may have the best armor, but it is dead without a logi.
And when I AmSent, even in PCs, there are no damn logis around.... Hey bud, I didn't ask for your opinion on why my choices are wrong. Lol.
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VAHZZ
RabbitSwarm
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Posted - 2015.08.27 05:01:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:VAHZZ wrote:The Amarr Sentinel is not the best, it is a sitting duck and relies purely on logis, whereas the Gallente and Matari Sentinels don't. The GalSent is it's own logi with the ridiculous reps. The Matari Sentinel is the fastest truck, and has great bulk.
The AmSent may have the best armor, but it is dead without a logi.
And when I AmSent, even in PCs, there are no damn logis around.... Hey bud, I didn't ask for your opinion on why my choices are wrong. Lol. Just sayin'.
Titles says "Your opinion of 'best suits'" therefore, you asked for my opinion.
My opinion is that you are wrong about the Sentinel. There ya go.
Co-Founder of RabbitSwarm
"I fear all you have done is awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."
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Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2015.08.27 05:04:00 -
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I'm partial to birthday suits.
I am a minotaur.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.08.27 05:10:00 -
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Seems like a pretty solid "best-in-class" rundown to me.
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WyrmHero1945
Finesse Soldiers
578
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Posted - 2015.08.27 05:33:00 -
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Caldari Assault because shields. ScR isn't OP, imo. Eveytime I see one of those yellow beams I just hide and usually don't go 1vs1 unless I'm at long range. Because I know I'm gonna get obliterated in seconds unless I find some cover. I fear more any Gallente rifle though, once my shields are down my tiny armor doesn't save me, unlike what happens with ScR. Meanwhile I can tank RR and CR all day if I stay at medium-long range.
Amarr Scout: dual tanking, or jumping mods. With all that stamina it can jump all day, or be almost an assault suit with dual shield and armor tanking. The bonus to scan precision is like having an inherent precision mod with a Gallente scout. I'd try this baby with slave weapons: Combat Rifle and a Flaylock.
MinLogi: the repair tool bonus is awesome. It's the true logibro imo. Minmatar fashion is disgusting, though, so I use CalLogi. It's a resilient suit that's useful in all the explosive chaos that goes around fatties, lol.
Amarr Heavy imo. As you said the suit with the most HP in game. I'd stack this guy with vanilla plates all the way to be a true fatty.
Minmando: Combat Rifle and Mass Driver combo is deadly. Another strong candidate is the Galmando for a ridiculous GEK damage and tank destroyer with a Plasma Cannon. I won't say Calmando because sniper's bad reputation, but it's the obvious suit if you wanna snipe. |
Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.08.27 06:03:00 -
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Caldari got buttf*cked again :(
Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER !
- Sequal Rise
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LT SHANKS
You In The Nutz
6
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Posted - 2015.08.27 06:29:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:Caldari got buttf*cked again :( I couldn't find any Caldari suit that was worth mentioning.
The CalScout is decent but lacks low slots which are needed for the majority of Scout-like work. The CalAss is a super shield suit when fit properly, but positioning plays too much of a factor into how well it can perform. The CalSent is okay, but it is often relegated to a hit, hide, and recover style, which doesn't work too well for open point defense. CalLogis are okay, but flux grenades can end any hive shop in the blink of an eye.
The Calmando is the only one that seems viable as it is the best sniping platform for raw damage. Still, any suit can equip a Thales and hide in the redline so... yeah. |
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.08.27 06:38:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:Caldari got buttf*cked again :( I couldn't find any Caldari suit that was worth mentioning. The CalScout is decent but lacks low slots which are needed for the majority of Scout-like work. The CalAss is a super shield suit when fit properly, but positioning plays too much of a factor into how well it can perform. The CalSent is okay, but it is often relegated to a hit, hide, and recover style, which doesn't work too well for open point defense. CalLogis are okay, but flux grenades can end any hive shop in the blink of an eye. The Calmando is the only one that seems viable as it is the best sniping platform for raw damage. Still, any suit can equip a Thales and hide in the redline so... yeah. Ho but I agree woth you you know? No cal suits are the best in their categories and that's why I said they get screwed over :/
The CalMando is terrible tho, except for sniping it's total crap in the battlefield.
However, the CalAss is pretty good ! It has lots of shield and a great regen when fitted properly. It really has to be played as a "hit and run the hell away" suit. You might have 620 shield HP, you'll lose them in half a second. You really can't play shield the same way as armor (which is nice), and even if shield needs a small buff, the Caldari assault suit works great andcan slay as well as any others!
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.08.27 07:45:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:The Amarr Sentinel is not the best, it is a sitting duck and relies purely on logis, whereas the Gallente and Matari Sentinels don't. The GalSent is it's own logi with the ridiculous reps. The Matari Sentinel is the fastest truck, and has great bulk.
The AmSent may have the best armor, but it is dead without a logi.
And when I AmSent, even in PCs, there are no damn logis around.... So... the only way to successfully run an amsent is quad-plated?
Your logic fails utterly here.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
928
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Posted - 2015.08.27 08:03:00 -
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Min Mando's do everything lol
AV and one shot melee, it's godly. I just got it <3 |
WyrmHero1945
Finesse Soldiers
580
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Posted - 2015.08.27 12:32:00 -
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Now I wanna do an Amarr Scout, damn this game. |
CUSE TOWN333
Ancient Exiles.
3
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Posted - 2015.08.27 13:19:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:The Amarr Sentinel is not the best, it is a sitting duck and relies purely on logis, whereas the Gallente and Matari Sentinels don't. The GalSent is it's own logi with the ridiculous reps. The Matari Sentinel is the fastest truck, and has great bulk.
The AmSent may have the best armor, but it is dead without a logi.
And when I AmSent, even in PCs, there are no damn logis around.... make no mistake amarr sentinel is still king. the other heavys just specialize in a certain type of role. no amount of fast regen will help you in a 1v1 heavy fight.
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WyrmHero1945
Finesse Soldiers
580
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Posted - 2015.08.27 13:21:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:VAHZZ wrote:The Amarr Sentinel is not the best, it is a sitting duck and relies purely on logis, whereas the Gallente and Matari Sentinels don't. The GalSent is it's own logi with the ridiculous reps. The Matari Sentinel is the fastest truck, and has great bulk.
The AmSent may have the best armor, but it is dead without a logi.
And when I AmSent, even in PCs, there are no damn logis around.... make no mistake amarr sentinel is still king. the other heavys just specialize in a certain type of role. no amount of fast regen will help you in a 1v1 heavy fight.
I'm glad I still have to gtfo everytime I see a heavy.
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
213
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Posted - 2015.08.27 13:32:00 -
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Gallente Scout - slot layout and low profile (as stated)
Gallente Logi - Not only the scans, but survivability factor allows for the ability to top min logi in WP any day.
Gallente Commando - dat bonus to the Tactical AR tho....plus plasma cannon. So why not?
Gallente Sentinel - Self sustainability is very important. Any class that relies on having a logi strapped to their ass is just really scrubby imo.
Gallente Assault - well....it's gallente that should be enough. (repair rate plus AR bonus is amazing)
I swear i'm not biased or anything
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:make no mistake amarr sentinel is still king. the other heavys just specialize in a certain type of role. no amount of fast regen will help you in a 1v1 heavy fight. I'm sorry, I beg to differ. I crap all over AmSents all the time in a 1v1. Gal and Am are pretty balanced against each other. As long as the Gal heavy has at least 800 armor the potential damage output of the suit makes up for the amount of armor the AmSent has.
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Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
2
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Posted - 2015.08.27 13:57:00 -
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Sorry,
But asking what suits are "best" is a pretty noob question. Depends entirely on how you play
Real CPM Platform
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.08.27 14:03:00 -
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Gallente best everything.
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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Mejt0
Made in Poland... E-R-A
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Posted - 2015.08.27 14:03:00 -
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I'll write this in a different fasion.
Scouts : Gallente and Minmatar. They both have good bonuses and you can do everything with them.
Logis : Gallente, Minmatar (Amarr for piloting) They provide the most help for your team.
Assaults : Amarr, Gallente, Minmatar. Caldari is good, but it's not that good outside of pure 1vs1. These guys can handle multiple targets.
Sentinels : All. Caldari is great to run around, no need for logi. Amarr/Gall are the same thing. Minmatar is kind of like Caldari, good without logi. (you can get more self reps with Amarr, no idea how some think Gall is better at this)
Commandos : Minmatar, Gallente. Both have good bonuses towards AV and AI weapons.
Modern society is lacking in empathy
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CUSE TOWN333
Ancient Exiles.
3
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Posted - 2015.08.27 14:05:00 -
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its mainly the 4 low slots on the amarr heavy that make it king and damage resistance to HMGs. plate stacking a amarr sent with a logi up my butt is not really my play style. im not going to say my fit but it has good reps and 1000 armor if a logi does chose to love me but the logi is not needed. and of course any heavy can be made to work in pub matchs but i was talking about king heavy of PC. if its solo heavy work in the city with no logis in sight the better choice has been the cal heavy for self reps. then min heavy has bern found to be a good flanking and romeing heavy. but make no mistake when its time to get in meatgrinder mode and heavys are being spamed the amarr dominates all.
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Mejt0
Made in Poland... E-R-A
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Posted - 2015.08.27 14:08:00 -
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Talos Vagheitan wrote:Sorry,
But asking what suits are "best" is a pretty noob question. Depends entirely on how you play Here we are again. The likes of you always have to show up. "No you can't have your opinion, because everything is good and you are noob for asking. Also no gun game".
However we play Dust. Suits like Callogi are crap and they are not as good as Min/Gallogi no matter of the situation.
Modern society is lacking in empathy
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
10
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Posted - 2015.08.27 15:09:00 -
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for me:
Minscout CR assassin.
Minlogi
Amssault
Galmando/ammando I'm torn here.
Calsent/Minsent Again, torn.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
3
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Posted - 2015.08.27 15:14:00 -
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I don't think ther's a best suit; however there are some underperforming suits like the CalAssault/Logi and the Amarr Commando.
take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM]
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
10
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Posted - 2015.08.27 15:17:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:I don't think ther's a best suit; however there are some underperforming suits like the CalAssault/Logi and the Amarr Commando. Amarr commando only suffers from the lack of weapon variety, IMHO.
AScR + Laser Rifle is an amazing infantry suppression platform.
It simply cannot hang with other commmandos for AV DPS even though it can output more sustained DPS in AV than any assault or scout.
But they only benefit from using laser rifles and scrams for damage alpha bonusing.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
3
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Posted - 2015.08.27 15:58:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:I don't think ther's a best suit; however there are some underperforming suits like the CalAssault/Logi and the Amarr Commando. Amarr commando only suffers from the lack of weapon variety, IMHO. AScR + Laser Rifle is an amazing infantry suppression platform. It simply cannot hang with other commmandos for AV DPS even though it can output more sustained DPS in AV than any assault or scout. But they only benefit from using laser rifles and scrams for damage alpha bonusing.
Probably yes: the lack of variety makes it underperforming.
Imo it's also an issue of laser weaponry in general: the Amarr assault with a Viziam Scrambler rifle is a serious threat for any suit since it can kill almost anything without overheating, while the Amarr Commando would probably overheat before killing any decently armor-tanked suit.
The laser rifle on the Amarr Commando is good indeed, but since I have been using laser rifles since Chromosome, I can tell you that the Amarr Assault bonus is much more useful, since the damage output grows exponentially the more the trigger is being pressed with this occasionally leading to another kill shortly before you overheat. The only weapon that does truly fit well on the Amarr Commando is the Assault Scrambler Rifle.
Maybe a Breach/burst Scrambler rifle variant would alleviate the issue, although I would understand that we'd need a Laser AV before SCR variants-
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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
335
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Posted - 2015.08.27 16:04:00 -
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I agree with most of what the OP said. 2 exceptions. AMsentinel is not that great. GalSent is better and can armor tank just as good. AmNando is the ****. Love it. Laser Rifle paired with an AScR clear enemies out in the open then kill them when they run inside somewhere to hide from the lasers.
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Tebu Gan
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.08.27 16:05:00 -
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Cal assault armor tanked. |
Regnier Feros
Pielords
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Posted - 2015.08.27 16:22:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:I don't think ther's a best suit; however there are some underperforming suits like the CalAssault/Logi and the Amarr Commando. Amarr commando only suffers from the lack of weapon variety, IMHO. AScR + Laser Rifle is an amazing infantry suppression platform. It simply cannot hang with other commmandos for AV DPS even though it can output more sustained DPS in AV than any assault or scout. But they only benefit from using laser rifles and scrams for damage alpha bonusing. Wish there was an av laser rifle
ZariaOwnsWhips
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CUSE TOWN333
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.08.27 16:35:00 -
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Tebu Gan wrote:Cal assault armor tanked. shhhhh don't tell the pub people the top tryhard fit. keep letting them think this other stuff is good.
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