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Sicerly Yaw
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Posted - 2015.08.26 02:48:00 -
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so I was used to people being cowards in pubs but now even in FW I see some Q syncs that just give up when they see another Sync on the opposite team
I cant believe it does the cowardice never end? at least in FW players keep getting fielded but even then all that join in are bunch of newbros that dont know what they are doing its hard to win a match if I am the only one trying to do anything
if people only play full syncs and even then only stay if there inst any opposition the problems that everyone complains about will only get worse, its pathetic and the DEV's shouldn't have to step in to make things more "balanced"
its getting to the point that the only thing that will fix things is to lock out deserters for x amount of time, you're a mercenary if you accept a contract see it trough to the end
heck i don't even mind losing but its pathetic when I have to go in 1 v 16 because everyone on my team refuses to even step out of the redline, to make things worse in FW you aren't rewarded for your individual ranking instead you either win and get a good reward or lose and get a pitiful reward, if that's the case I have almost no reason to do FW without having to Q-sync an entire match to make sure I don't get stuck with deserters
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Sicerly Yaw
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Posted - 2015.08.26 03:30:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:yep running solo in fw is tough... very observant.... :)
I guess you missed the part where I said I don't care if I win or lose, its annoying to not have a team to fight with considering this is a team game
sure I can sync up anytime with another 15 players, but that's not my issue my issue is that people leave matches just because some competition comes along even people that are Q-syncing
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Sicerly Yaw
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Posted - 2015.08.26 03:37:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:
Role play is fun and all, but no one here is a mercenary. You are sitting in front of a screen playing a video game.
As such, if CCP were ever stupid enough to lock out players as punishment for playing DUST how they want, the game would be dead in a month.
P.S.
If players leave matches, it is symptomatic of problems within the games core concepts. This is not the players fault. It's a game after all.
It's CCP's job to provide a game that compels customers to play it, to want to stay in matches etc.
It's CCP job to make players want to play the game, not the players.
the problem is player driven, such as is the case with most F2P games
here's the thing tho in most F2P games if you chose to skip out on a match or you want to surrender you get punished or at least you get the option to surrender
everyone complains that implementing some punishment system would kill the game, I beg to differ and its a good thing if we get rid of all the players that aren't adding anything to begin with, the less trolls there are the less cowards there are the less deserters there are the higher the quality of each match will be
sure it may be the job of the developers to polish and refine the game but there is already enough incentive as it is this issue is not the fault of the devs its a problem with the community and the mindset of the players
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Sicerly Yaw
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Posted - 2015.08.26 05:24:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:Sicerly Yaw wrote:jordy mack wrote:yep running solo in fw is tough... very observant.... :) I guess you missed the part where I said I don't care if I win or lose, its annoying to not have a team to fight with considering this is a team game sure I can sync up anytime with another 15 players, but that's not my issue my issue is that people leave matches just because some competition comes along even people that are Q-syncing i get it but, why SHOULD ur team try? theyre going to lose isk and waste time getting stomped. they owe you (and whichever faction your in) nothing.
the thing is they don't even have to try that hard all they have to do is defend but they dont even do that, the only reason I brought this up is because I saw one corp leave two syncs and another sync that I recognized from a certain channel do the same
however it is not everyone that does this in fact one of the matches I did mange to win was due to the help I got from another corp that decided to actually fight back, on their own they would not have won as the match was very close and I can say without a doubt that me going from point to point in a basic min scout speed hacking managed us the victory
I cant carry 15 incompetent players but I can do my best to help those that actually try and hopefully get the victory, I could easily assure victory by going off on my own and doing my own syncs with players that I know are more then capable and just stomp ALMOST everyone but that's not the point I'm trying to make I wont call out any specific corp or player but they know who they are
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Sicerly Yaw
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Posted - 2015.08.26 05:25:00 -
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Regis Blackbird wrote:I don't think a overly harsh punishment is a way to go. A carrot is better.  With that said, we are mercenaries signing a contract for a corporation / faction to fight on their behalf. I would not find it unreasonable if we can't sign a new contract until the previous expire, right? TDLR: If you leave a game, you need to wait until the previous match is over before you can search for a new one. (Or you can opt to rejoin the same game you left). This solution would work the same for deliberately leaving and unintended DC. Your spot is reserved for 1-2 min, before Scotty tires to fill up the game again.
yeah I would be completely fine with this but it doesn't really fix the problem in fact it actually sorta makes it worse in some cases but I like your thinking just needs a little more work
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Sicerly Yaw
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Posted - 2015.08.26 05:27:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:There's no real fix for people leaving other than to blacklist the squad leader / individual for a fixed amount of time. You run into problems with that though because not everyone is leaving bc they're cowards.
I've only quit one FW match as of late and that was because my wife brought our overheating bulldog to me. I was AFK so I just quit so someone else could get in.
it would suck if I was banned from FW for 24hrs bc of that.
I dont want to punish players that have legit reasons for leaving a match but it becomes a problem when that same person or people keep doing it over and over again, a simple warning system could be put in place just in case certain things like this happen
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Sicerly Yaw
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Posted - 2015.08.26 05:33:00 -
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JIMvc2 wrote:Forever ETC wrote:JIMvc2 wrote:Heck I jumped off the mcc and died 36 times = yay and got paid at the end. I also got hatemail. Everyone try it and see if you get hatemail. Some n00b called me out on the forums from dead mans game = boy did that guy took it to a whole new level of rage. Dont worry keq will deal with that pest soon. I'm sure you make KEQ proud = :) I just did it because I was bored
its an effective way to hinder your opponents and its entirely in the spirit of new eden I have no problem with stuff like this although it can become a problem with no way to counter it although someone may be crafty enough to find a fix
I am curious did you fall to your death every time or did you suicide in other ways? an effective way to prevent people from doing this could be to simply fly a drop ship to block off the entrance but of course this could be easily bypassed by simply entering and exiting the vehicle unless an enemy drop ship was used to prevent it
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Sicerly Yaw
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Posted - 2015.08.26 05:40:00 -
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axis alpha wrote:Yesterday I ran ambush for once.... had 4 matches in a row against some carne guys... inall the matches at the end of the match were left 6-8 player.
monkey see monkey do at least it seems like we have a bunch of monkeys playing heck I take that back they might actually be better then 50% of the player base
but all jokes aside the more people leave battle the more common it becomes and the more that people do it, no one wants to put any effort into the game, what I am afraid of is that things will have to get worse before they get any better
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Sicerly Yaw
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Posted - 2015.08.26 09:03:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:
so u dont mind losing.
and u COULD organize some resistance but u choose not to.
what exactly is the problem?
like I have stated time and time again, players that leave match because they are pansies is my problem if you aren't going to fight why are you in FW in the first place that's my problem
my problem isnt that player leave match
my problem isnt that I cant win or lose
my problem isnt even that they Q-sync
MY PROBLEM is that players are being cowards leaving their team mates behind causing matches to be severely imbalanced
if they tried and we lost thats fine no problem
if they tried and we win great thats amazing
the problem is that they aren't even trying even 10+ players from the same corp that see some slight opposition or another Q-sync on the other side and they just quit
I primarily run as a solo player it benefits me in many ways but people like this ruin matches for me, I dont like to stomp I dont even like to run proto gear in pubs or be the guy that's being repped by two proto min logis with focused rep tools and 2k eHP sure I can do that but i don't find that any fun unless my opposition is doing the same and even then I find it a bit stale I would rather stab them in the back with proto NK's in a std suit and make them rage then do that
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Sicerly Yaw
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Posted - 2015.08.26 21:53:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:This has always been going on.
in all my time playing I have not had any major force retreat but the moment I before I had posted this It happened 3 time in a row
I know there's people that leave battle after getting a bit salty but an entire Q-sync leaving the match is a bit much
as a part of CPM you should have more to say on the matter, if you don't mind me asking do you think its fair for people to be doing this?
I'd at least appreciate a surrender option to allow those left behind to not have to sit trough an entire match idling around and it gets the other team back into the queue much faster, perhaps increasing the activity and availability of FW
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