Why not "keep what you kill"?

because that doesn't fix anything and it only makes it profitable for those that are stomping in the first place while the newer players wont even be able to use most of what they kill if they manage to kill anything of value in the first place

yes it can be a good way to reward players but its already a part of PC battles and if you play PC you should know how that goes

new players under this proposal would learn that some engagements are low risk low reward while others are high risk high reward, and veteran players would be encouraged to take on competition to get better rewards rather then just stomping other players as well as making it so that they cant profit too much from farming low ranked players

it makes it where if two teams face off in all proto the rewards will be much higher as any points gained will be much higher then those received while fighting player's in low tire gear and new players can focus on supporting their team rather then going in guns blazing and getting killed 10+ times instead they will learn that supporting their team at their rank is much more profitable until they can improve their competitive skills

There's nothing fundamentally wrong with stomping. There is something wrong, in my opinion, with (1) newbros being pitted against stompers and (2) some fights not being worth fighting.

#1 - Shouldn't be happening in the first place.

#2 - No one is going to fight harder for +10WP per kill. But a merc up against tough odds very well might be motivated by the promise of high profit. Or the chance to take officer gear away from another. I'd love to see a "meta differential" ISK bonus paid on the spot when a merc in low-meta gear takes out a merc in higher meta gear, but that's probably too much to ask. "Keep what you kill" is close enough. A merc can make a decent amount of ISK hocking high-end salvage, and he can make alot of ISK selling officer gear back to the stompers he takes it from.

We don't get to choose our fights, thank goodness, so you can't very well punish players for being pitting against inferior opposition. You can, however, reward the inferior opposition for putting up the best fight they can.

It should pay well to give stompers hell.

WP translates to SP. Arbitrarily making one player's grind longer than another's -- based strictly upon who Scotty decides to put him up against -- is very plainly punishment. Not cool, buddy.

you still fail to see the point and I am sure you are part of the problem perhaps thats why you are so defensive

I understand the concern but the wp gain would actully increase where it is needed and decrease where it is not, and everything else still nets you in the same amount of wp meaning you still get the same amount for team support giving more emphasis on that as this is a team game

a new bro would grow slightly slower in the academy in order for them to learn to play better before being dumped in pubs where the wp gain will be the same if not better in contrast to the current system unless everyone decides to run mlt gear which is not the case sure there may be a few only running cheap fittings but even apex suits are at a meta level of 40 or higher with aur gear being worth more in terms of meta level

even full std suits would still be worth a little over half the current value and those using adv and proto mods would be worth the same as the reward is now or better

Im fairly certain you're unaware who adipem nothi is or what his DUST credo is.
Which is irrelevant because kwyk is a better system becaude tangible items do get people fr more excited short term than a random bumpof 10 to 20k isk at ghe end of the match.

Having a.tangible object creates a sense of wonder, how did i get this? Who did i shoot? Was it that guy with the proto rail gallenta gk0 that kept killing me?

It creates a desire for knowledge and furthers the instant-gratification that drives the world today.

If i get junk in salvage, i pay for more attention unto wtf is going on than an arbitrary and unexplained bump in isk payouts.

PS stompera arent going to keep shooting militis Bros if they keep loot mlt level garbage. If i see you with an agmius, imma shoot your dumbazz intead of that std yourr using as a guman shield.

I want that effing gun, not the raw isk value attached to it, which the match payout will NEVER pay because of the sheer amount of raw isk it would pump into the economy.

You're both solving the problem, but only one of you gets the construction parameters of battlepayout.

I am aware of more then you think, here's one thing you should consider tho

If I kill 10 prototype players and only get 500 wp while another player kills 20 mlt players and gets 1k well who do you think has more skill? because as I see it people seem to think they are better then others depending on how many players they kill even if all they kill are newbros that cant even defend themselves half the time

rewarding players that try while giving incentive to try harder, that is something that the keep what you kill reward does not accomplish

and like you said stompers wont shoot at something that's not worth it, sure you may be wrong because they still will slaughter them to get the wp so they can inflate their rewards but if they only get an abysmal amount of wp from them they are more likely to focus on more favorable targets

inflating the market by allowing people to keep the gear others lose is a bad thing with too many officer weapons being in rotation they would lose value or at the vary least become too common

my idea seeks to make the low risk low reward and high risk high reward more prominent, while improving not fixing many other issues making it easier to fix them or at least clearly see the underlying problems