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Sicerly Yaw wrote:

Soldner VonKuechle wrote:

Im fairly certain you're unaware who adipem nothi is or what his DUST credo is.
Which is irrelevant because kwyk is a better system becaude tangible items do get people fr more excited short term than a random bumpof 10 to 20k isk at ghe end of the match.

Having a.tangible object creates a sense of wonder, how did i get this? Who did i shoot? Was it that guy with the proto rail gallenta gk0 that kept killing me?

It creates a desire for knowledge and furthers the instant-gratification that drives the world today.

If i get junk in salvage, i pay for more attention unto wtf is going on than an arbitrary and unexplained bump in isk payouts.

PS stompera arent going to keep shooting militis Bros if they keep loot mlt level garbage. If i see you with an agmius, imma shoot your dumbazz intead of that std yourr using as a guman shield.

I want that effing gun, not the raw isk value attached to it, which the match payout will NEVER pay because of the sheer amount of raw isk it would pump into the economy.

You're both solving the problem, but only one of you gets the construction parameters of battlepayout.

I am aware of more then you think, here's one thing you should consider tho

If I kill 10 prototype players and only get 500 wp while another player kills 20 mlt players and gets 1k well who do you think has more skill? because as I see it people seem to think they are better then others depending on how many players they kill even if all they kill are newbros that cant even defend themselves half the time

rewarding players that try while giving incentive to try harder, that is something that the keep what you kill reward does not accomplish

and like you said stompers wont shoot at something that's not worth it, sure you may be wrong because they still will slaughter them to get the wp so they can inflate their rewards but if they only get an abysmal amount of wp from them they are more likely to focus on more favorable targets

inflating the market by allowing people to keep the gear others lose is a bad thing with too many officer weapons being in rotation they would lose value or at the vary least become too common

my idea seeks to make the low risk low reward and high risk high reward more prominent, while improving not fixing many other issues making it easier to fix them or at least clearly see the underlying problems


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Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2	Posted - 2015.08.25 21:50:00 - [1] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: WP translates to SP. Arbitrarily making one player's grind longer than another's -- based strictly upon who Scotty decides to put him up against -- is very plainly punishment. Not cool, buddy. you still fail to see the point and I am sure you are part of the problem perhaps thats why you are so defensive I understand the concern but the wp gain would actully increase where it is needed and decrease where it is not, and everything else still nets you in the same amount of wp meaning you still get the same amount for team support giving more emphasis on that as this is a team game a new bro would grow slightly slower in the academy in order for them to learn to play better before being dumped in pubs where the wp gain will be the same if not better in contrast to the current system unless everyone decides to run mlt gear which is not the case sure there may be a few only running cheap fittings but even apex suits are at a meta level of 40 or higher with aur gear being worth more in terms of meta level even full std suits would still be worth a little over half the current value and those using adv and proto mods would be worth the same as the reward is now or better Im fairly certain you're unaware who adipem nothi is or what his DUST credo is. Which is irrelevant because kwyk is a better system becaude tangible items do get people fr more excited short term than a random bumpof 10 to 20k isk at ghe end of the match. Having a.tangible object creates a sense of wonder, how did i get this? Who did i shoot? Was it that guy with the proto rail gallenta gk0 that kept killing me? It creates a desire for knowledge and furthers the instant-gratification that drives the world today. If i get junk in salvage, i pay for more attention unto wtf is going on than an arbitrary and unexplained bump in isk payouts. PS stompera arent going to keep shooting militis Bros if they keep loot mlt level garbage. If i see you with an agmius, imma shoot your dumbazz intead of that std yourr using as a guman shield. I want that effing gun, not the raw isk value attached to it, which the match payout will NEVER pay because of the sheer amount of raw isk it would pump into the economy. You're both solving the problem, but only one of you gets the construction parameters of battlepayout. Watch out forums, Shinobi "Mr. Morality" MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui is back! "Salty as salt can get" - my life.
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2	Posted - 2015.08.26 00:00:00 - [2] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Im fairly certain you're unaware who adipem nothi is or what his DUST credo is. Which is irrelevant because kwyk is a better system becaude tangible items do get people fr more excited short term than a random bumpof 10 to 20k isk at ghe end of the match. Having a.tangible object creates a sense of wonder, how did i get this? Who did i shoot? Was it that guy with the proto rail gallenta gk0 that kept killing me? It creates a desire for knowledge and furthers the instant-gratification that drives the world today. If i get junk in salvage, i pay for more attention unto wtf is going on than an arbitrary and unexplained bump in isk payouts. PS stompera arent going to keep shooting militis Bros if they keep loot mlt level garbage. If i see you with an agmius, imma shoot your dumbazz intead of that std yourr using as a guman shield. I want that effing gun, not the raw isk value attached to it, which the match payout will NEVER pay because of the sheer amount of raw isk it would pump into the economy. You're both solving the problem, but only one of you gets the construction parameters of battlepayout. I am aware of more then you think, here's one thing you should consider tho If I kill 10 prototype players and only get 500 wp while another player kills 20 mlt players and gets 1k well who do you think has more skill? because as I see it people seem to think they are better then others depending on how many players they kill even if all they kill are newbros that cant even defend themselves half the time rewarding players that try while giving incentive to try harder, that is something that the keep what you kill reward does not accomplish and like you said stompers wont shoot at something that's not worth it, sure you may be wrong because they still will slaughter them to get the wp so they can inflate their rewards but if they only get an abysmal amount of wp from them they are more likely to focus on more favorable targets inflating the market by allowing people to keep the gear others lose is a bad thing with too many officer weapons being in rotation they would lose value or at the vary least become too common my idea seeks to make the low risk low reward and high risk high reward more prominent, while improving not fixing many other issues making it easier to fix them or at least clearly see the underlying problems Blood sugars still low, because you obviously DONT understand that they will not change the isk patout formula to push that much raw isk into the economy. The invisible economy that the forum thinks is dead, that if it was that 100k isk bump we got when they redid it months ago would've tuned it to be reliably millions more. Also, a stomper isnt going to work harder for 20-30 more WP, theyre just going to farm the lower end players more. Easy wp, easy SKILLPOINTS (an inherent problem you refuse to recognize) easy iskies at ludacris rates. Tangible items dont futz with that. That drive aurum sales because the market assistant sex bot. It also most definitely mirrors your lowrisk low reward high risk high reward scheme. Because ive already mentioned it. BTWs huge old money pc isk and warbage labs are proliferating more officer weapons than you also want to admit to. Cranking up the raw isk just means more people to buy them. I understand you really want to defend your theorem, but can you factually back up why its a good idea to promote SP disparity since its tied to WP, and what the average theoretical total isk payouts per match would be? If it crosses the rumored 6milluon (plus or minus high value loadouts) battle mark, uts never going to happen. You're a good man with creative ideas, sadly its not the best fit, knowing the game and company. Watch out forums, Shinobi "Mr. Morality" MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui is back! "Salty as salt can get" - my life.