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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2015.08.25 00:30:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Forced Death wrote:who gives a fuk about unbalancing data its doing its job it shows the massive amounts of myos being bought from before and also i dont see how being able to jump up and shoot a plasma cannon while getting shot at from below with about 400ehp is scrubby PLC without myos is skill,with myos is slightly scrubby. But jumpy mass driver is full on scrub tactics.
If they weren't jumping in the air they would be blitzing you with Kinetic Catalyzers, using the cloak and Shotgun, heavy and LAV, Forge gun sniping, Scrambler Rifle, Assault Rail Rifle, Scrambler Rifle, BAR...
There's a lot of things that are equally good in this game. Myofibril Stimulants might be different, but I don't think they are unbalanced. The Mass Driver, Flaylock and Plasma Cannon were unusually situational weapons and Myofibril Stimulants help them in that regard.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2015.08.25 01:54:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:
I think you mean myofibril help them be even more no skill spam weaponry. And MD,flaylock,and plasma cannon were never 'situational' they work everywhere in skilled hands.(guess that means you have no skill) and I love blitzing with kincats. All I have is a scout suit and a shotgun,no cloak,what else do I do? Lay on the ground and die? I'm not stacking armour plates or damps. I'm gonna get in your face and shotgun you.
You can call it no skill if you want but it definitely takes skill to fight enemies that have higher ground than you with parabolic weaponry.
With shotguns you just have to get close enough to make them fill your screen. Which is a lot easier than one would expect. Though with explosive weapons there's a sweet spot in range. Too close and you blow yourself up, too far away and there's no point if they are moving. Middle to close range fights are where you have to fight, and if the other person has the height advantage then you are probably screwed.
Don't talk about parabolic weaponry taking no skill, and then boast about the shotgun because the shotgun is among the easiest weapons to kill with. You can literally kill the highest HP suit in the game before they can even react with a militia Shotgun. If you're wondering why I'm personally talking crap about your skill it's because you talked bad about mine. As far as I am concerned this wasn't a personal topic, but you took cheap shots, and that's a terrible way to argue. You might as well call anyone that disagrees with you stupid because it's about as effective. This isn't the first time I've seen you take unnecessary shots, and you should stop. People simply won't even consider your side of the argument if you make it personal.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2015.08.25 04:24:00 -
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ROMULUS H3X wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:
I think you mean myofibril help them be even more no skill spam weaponry. And MD,flaylock,and plasma cannon were never 'situational' they work everywhere in skilled hands.(guess that means you have no skill) and I love blitzing with kincats. All I have is a scout suit and a shotgun,no cloak,what else do I do? Lay on the ground and die? I'm not stacking armour plates or damps. I'm gonna get in your face and shotgun you.
So you run around as a scout... trying to shotgun people.....without damps......... *sigh*....... AND YOU WONDER WHY YOU ARE GETTING BLOWN TO SMITHERINES? Congratz, you just got put on the "Never Read Anymore Of Your Threads List", goodbye.
ROMULUS, I actually wonder if the OP possibly has dyslexia, or maybe English isn't his first language or his dialect is very different. Because I've seen threads where he seemed confused about the argument. I really want to rationalize his antagonizing of people as a misunderstanding. I don't want him to just simply have that much lack of humility in his own reasoning.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2015.08.25 04:50:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:
Try dodging officer mass drivers and proto combat/rail/scrambler/assault rifles with only 75 sheild and 212 armour. Withass driver all you have to do is fire in a general direction and boom +50 and this long wall of post just means your happen to be really salty over one person.
Edit: I'm laughing at you for mentioning this sweet spot with explosives,are you having issues with dept perception? I do,and I use the information thing to tell me how close I am to my prey. Hhhaahahhaha. You suck.
Though I could say the same for laser weaponry. Explosives and laser weaponry will absolutely destroy armor and shield suits respectively.
Though as ROMULUS said you can't expect not to be killed quickly in a scout with no damps or armor. You are a glass cannon. A militia HMG, advanced AR and even an advanced Scrambler Pistol will kill you quickly. It might be more annoying because it's an explosive, but just about any quick firing weapon could obliterate your small amount of armor. I'm not saying that you personally don't have the skill to dodge the shots, I'm saying that even the best scout player in the game would be easy to kill without substantial armor or stealth.
You are running a classic speed tank/ glass cannon fit, and it's difficult to survive against any weapon regardless of skill.
Though, you say the officer Mass Driver is over powered, but just about every Officer Weapon is so that's a mute point.
I don't have any issues with depth perception. What I am saying is that long range kills with the Mass Driver, Flaylock and Plasma Cannon are difficult to achieve because your target has to be mostly standing still and not moving across say rolling hills. At that point you can see the projectile and get out of the way without much haste. So at long range it's very difficult to use against an aware target with cover and decent mobility. Close Range it's basically suicide, and almost always a gamble especially with the Assault and standard Mass Drivers. So there is a sweet spot where the enemy is close enough they can't reasonably dodge in time and you don't run the risk of blowing yourself up.
I want to reiterate that if the person is above on say a cliff, ledge or balcony then you have basically lost that fight. If you can get above someone with a parabolic weapon then they have to actually hit you with it to do damage, and that negates the area of effect so you basically have a very awkward Sniper with travel time and drop.
Also though, don't be so lame in argument. No.one except you is trying to attack anyone's intelligence. Everyone has an opinion, and as long as you have reasoning it should be respectable. And when I say argument I am really thinking of a gentlemanly debate. I don't expect all of us to act like senators and be very polite, but personal attacks are very nonsensical. It ruins the atmosphere from one of reason and logic to just rage. What are you going to do with that? Though, I'm not salty; I'm not mad or angry. Though, I am upset that this behavior is continuing across the forums.
You must be pretty passionate about the game to dedicate as much time as you do to post as often as you do, and in that aspect we are in the same boat and we will interact often enough. I think if we could both respect each other, even as just rivals, it would be a better atmosphere. I say this because I've had feuds with dozens of people here and I'm tired of it. I just want to be productive, and funny.
You may still troll or rage at me because you think I'm trying to talk down at you, and lower your status, or because you see me as a parental/authoritarian figure but that's not at all my drive or motive here. I just want us to push for a better game even if we disagree completely on how it should be done. Even if we never agree it would be awesome to just be able to joke afterwards anyways.
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