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axis alpha
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.22 22:11:00 -
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But it's a cheap solo tactic.
Go in solo with max damp and slay away.
Doesn't mean you're good. Just means you have no gun game.
I've seen notable knifers who also have gun game but you can weed out who strictly knifes.
Just a message. Kill me over and over with a real weapon. Then you will make me rage.
And to those who say "oh it's just to have fun yada yada blah blah."
Idgaf. This game ain't about fun. I want to win. Even if it's a filthy pub.
Drunk post commenced.
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First Prophet
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.08.22 22:13:00 -
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Someone's salty.
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Falling Sunset
Standby Retaliation
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Posted - 2015.08.22 22:17:00 -
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Posted - 2015.08.22 22:17:00 -
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axis alpha wrote:This game ain't about fun.
Wait WHAAAT !?
Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER !
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axis alpha
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
858
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Posted - 2015.08.22 22:19:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:Someone's salty.
Very
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PLAYSTTION
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
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Posted - 2015.08.22 22:20:00 -
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Knifing is a cheap solo tactic? I don't get angry when knifed because I understand the skill and skill points required to be successful. It is also dangerous and rarely works.
Simple answer, get gud, its not that hard to kill them just be aware.
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axis alpha
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
858
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Posted - 2015.08.22 22:20:00 -
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axis alpha wrote:First Prophet wrote:Someone's salty. Very
And drunk:
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axis alpha
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.22 22:24:00 -
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PLAYSTTION wrote:Knifing is a cheap solo tactic? I don't get angry when knifed because I understand the skill and skill points required to be successful. It is also dangerous and rarely works.
Simple answer, get gud, its not that hard to kill them just be aware.
Lol I am "gud" only time I ever get killed by these knifers is when I'm hacking. 90 percent for the time is when I'm hacking. I run a ewar suit just for these assholes but some max damp with a cloak. You can't combat that when hacking. They purposely wait till you hack. I have no problem when I'm running and gunning. I'll spot them right away. But you can't be turned around while hacking.
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LT SHANKS
You In The Nutz
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Posted - 2015.08.22 22:26:00 -
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Cheap solo tactic?
LOL, you must be related to KTB. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
MeatBag Disposal Service LOGISTICS
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Posted - 2015.08.22 22:27:00 -
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I can take getting knifed because I do it sometimes but what I hate is the rail bug , that's some straight bullish . I'm taking all my rails off my fits and using AR's instead , at least if I die I know why and not because of some stupid bug that's been around for over a year now .
Just doesn't make since and I can't understand why people complain about RR's , over half the time they don't work .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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axis alpha
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
858
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Posted - 2015.08.22 22:29:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:Cheap solo tactic?
LOL, you must be related to KTB.
You CANNOT argue that a max gal scout with max cloak and damp while solo us a cheap and takes no skill. Sure it takes a while to attain but ****. There is no pleasure killing someone from behind in one hit. There is no competition no skill involved what so ever.
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axis alpha
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.22 22:30:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:I can take getting knifed because I do it sometimes but what I hate is the rail bug , that's some straight bullish . I'm taking all my rails off my fits and using AR's instead , at least if I die I know why and not because of some stupid bug that's been around for over a year now .
Just doesn't make since and I can't understand why people complain about RR's , over half the time they don't work .
What bug
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axis alpha
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
858
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Posted - 2015.08.22 22:36:00 -
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Also to make one thing clear. I'm not talking about some who will go in not cloaked and partial damps. Because THAT takes skill. Being visible and having the skills to move and groove and kill 3 4 guys in a row IS skill.
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.08.22 22:42:00 -
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axis alpha wrote:But it's a cheap solo tactic.
Go in solo with max damp and slay away.
Doesn't mean you're good. Just means you have no gun game.
I've seen notable knifers who also have gun game but you can weed out who strictly knifes.
Just a message. Kill me over and over with a real weapon. Then you will make me rage.
And to those who say "oh it's just to have fun yada yada blah blah."
Idgaf. This game ain't about fun. I want to win. Even if it's a filthy pub.
Drunk post commenced.
Actually, since it's a game, it is kinda fun. Like take today, ran 7 pubs with officer and had a blast.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
MeatBag Disposal Service LOGISTICS
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Posted - 2015.08.22 22:44:00 -
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axis alpha wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:I can take getting knifed because I do it sometimes but what I hate is the rail bug , that's some straight bullish . I'm taking all my rails off my fits and using AR's instead , at least if I die I know why and not because of some stupid bug that's been around for over a year now .
Just doesn't make since and I can't understand why people complain about RR's , over half the time they don't work . What bug
You don't have problems firing your RR and actually having the damage register .?. blank / ghost firing of forges as well as large and small rails ?
My internet strength is better then some businesses so I know it's not my reception .
Most of the time I encounter someone and fire upon them and the notice that my gun is not registering damage , need not to say what happens next .
Such a helpless feeling .
If you don't know , hope that it doesn't happen to you .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Piercing Serenity
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.08.22 22:44:00 -
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axis alpha wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:I can take getting knifed because I do it sometimes but what I hate is the rail bug , that's some straight bullish . I'm taking all my rails off my fits and using AR's instead , at least if I die I know why and not because of some stupid bug that's been around for over a year now .
Just doesn't make since and I can't understand why people complain about RR's , over half the time they don't work . What bug
Sometimes rail weapons shoot phantom shots. You see them come out of the weapon, but the damage doesn't apply. Just blue shield flares. Apparently this happens with knives too
"For people who don't really do S**T, ya'll really doing the most"
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
MeatBag Disposal Service LOGISTICS
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Posted - 2015.08.22 22:56:00 -
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Piercing Serenity wrote:axis alpha wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:I can take getting knifed because I do it sometimes but what I hate is the rail bug , that's some straight bullish . I'm taking all my rails off my fits and using AR's instead , at least if I die I know why and not because of some stupid bug that's been around for over a year now .
Just doesn't make since and I can't understand why people complain about RR's , over half the time they don't work . What bug Sometimes rail weapons shoot phantom shots. You see them come out of the weapon, but the damage doesn't apply. Just blue shield flares. Apparently this happens with knives too
Just had a game and I mean just , where that happened to me .
I didn't know that was possible , lucky for the RE blew the person up .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Alena Ventrallis
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2015.08.22 22:59:00 -
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I fail to see how bringing a knife to a gunfight is unfair.
The only complaint I have is how knifers never do anything without a full squad backing them up, but that's not a problem with the knives themselves.
Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
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Piercing Serenity
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.08.22 23:03:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:I fail to see how bringing a knife to a gunfight is unfair.
The only complaint I have is how knifers never do anything without a full squad backing them up, but that's not a problem with the knives themselves.
The only thing that I find unsettling is the low "refresh rate" of the minimap. I often find that I see the orange dot on my minimap right as I'm being attacked, instead of *as soon* as they enter the 10m range. And given that these suits are generally moving at 7+ m/s, every fraction of a second counts.
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Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2015.08.22 23:06:00 -
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Knives? Cheap tactic? Yeah... You want to know what's also cheap?
Your mom.
I am a minotaur.
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Posted - 2015.08.22 23:09:00 -
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listen to the sound effects and actually look around when you are moving, when hacking if the scout gets in close while cloaked they will make a sound and you have at least 2 seconds to react before they can do anything unless they are using myos which have no delay
a fully damped scout at best can only have about 300 hp more or less any weapon does more damge in less then a second meaning the scout should die in the transition from decloak to using their weapon
the highest damp a scout can get even with the proto cloak and full damp is about 10db taking into account everything even being an officer gk.0 scout which has an extra low slot, the inner ring of a cal scout is about 9m more or less depending on how you fit it but with full precision it can pick up everything in the inner ring meaning a scout even cloaked cannot come close enough without you knowing they are there
saying that it takes no skill or that there isn't any counter play makes you sound like a scrub, this game isn't just about gun game it takes more then that to win even if you play ambush, the cheapest tactic I know of in pubs especially is the active scanners which can be used to pick up even many damped scouts to the point where if they want to stay hidden they have to use a proto cloak and fully damp making them so weak in terms of eHP that they can get easily killed by even a thukker contact nade and in most cases a BP will OHK them as well as any other weapon taking less then a second to finish them off and a single charged shot from and ScR will destroy them even faster, splash damge from a plc is enough to take them down
there are so many things a scout has to keep track of and a single player can easily take out a group of these if they just pay attention which in most cases they do not
the easier way to counter a scout is to use awareness that is one of the best skills to have in this game and can separate the scrubs and try hards from the skilled players that may or may not have the best gun game but gun game doesn't matter much when everyone has magic bullets in this game so anyone saying they have gun game that use AA are just lying to themselves
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First Prophet
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.08.22 23:14:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:Knives? Cheap tactic? Yeah... You want to know what's also cheap?
Your mom.
F*CKIN' BUUUUUUUUUUUURNED.
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Savage Bullet
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.08.22 23:18:00 -
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axis alpha wrote:But it's a cheap solo tactic.
Go in solo with max damp and slay away.
Doesn't mean you're good. Just means you have no gun game.
I've seen notable knifers who also have gun game but you can weed out who strictly knifes.
Just a message. Kill me over and over with a real weapon. Then you will make me rage.
And to those who say "oh it's just to have fun yada yada blah blah."
Idgaf. This game ain't about fun. I want to win. Even if it's a filthy pub.
Drunk post commenced.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.08.22 23:22:00 -
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Thanks guy.
Nothing screams "I suck at Dust" than complaining about 200 - 300 HP suits that killed you, and claiming they are OP.
CCP Rattati wrote:Guys, if NK kills were remotely a problem, or a potential problem, with slightly lower backpedal, I wouldn't be advocating for them. With Scanning changes, they became less effective, but I want all styles, even niche, to be able to flourish if they want to. It's not my personal style, but I appreciate it and get killed by novas every 10 battles, maybe. Stats say the same. We should be proud of our NKers if anything. I tend to think "good kill", versus "**** you" for most other kills.
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Pile 'em Up
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Posted - 2015.08.22 23:29:00 -
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axis alpha wrote:But it's a cheap solo tactic.
Go in solo with max damp and slay away.
Doesn't mean you're good. Just means you have no gun game.
I've seen notable knifers who also have gun game but you can weed out who strictly knifes.
Just a message. Kill me over and over with a real weapon. Then you will make me rage.
And to those who say "oh it's just to have fun yada yada blah blah."
Idgaf. This game ain't about fun. I want to win. Even if it's a filthy pub.
Drunk post commenced.
I run no damps on my knife suit about 180 shields and all codebreakers on the right if you can't kill me when I'm running that something is wrong... |
LT SHANKS
You In The Nutz
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Posted - 2015.08.22 23:57:00 -
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axis alpha wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Cheap solo tactic?
LOL, you must be related to KTB. You CANNOT argue that a max gal scout with max cloak and damp while solo us a cheap and takes no skill. Sure it takes a while to attain but ****. There is no pleasure killing someone from behind in one hit. There is no competition no skill involved what so ever.
Now, you're not even making sense.
What you're describing is not a direct problem related to NKs but rather a distaste for dampened cloak Scouts.
Let's test something out:
NKs on Sentinel = Cheap solo tactic?
-No
NKs on Commando = Cheap solo tactic?
-No
NKs on Logistics = Cheap solo tactic?
-No
NKs on Assault = Cheap solo tactic?
-No
NKs on Scout = Cheap solo tactic?
-OP as fuck! Nerf NKs NOW! Knifers have no skill!
Out of these configurations, only one is really viable. Does this mean there is a problem with the weapon? Of course not. It means you have an inherent distaste for players who kill you from behind. And which suits are best fit for this style of play? Cloaky dampened Scouts.
Also, let's not forget that players actually do use NKs on suits other than Scouts (players like OZAROW ran them on medium frames). After understanding what I had just typed, will you still be inclined to believe "knifers" are using nothing but a "cheap solo tactic?" If so, there's no helping you. The only thing I can say is git gud. |
axis alpha
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.23 00:15:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:Knives? Cheap tactic? Yeah... You want to know what's also cheap?
Your mom.
Lol you must be a cheap solo knifers.
Also my mom's dead.
Also get gud. Half of you I ever see in skirm. A real skilled game mode. Probarwhy all of you have never been successful in pc.
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Crimson ShieId
Horizons' Edge
No Context
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Posted - 2015.08.23 00:23:00 -
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The more I see the words "gun game" used here, the funnier it gets. Aim assist + gun game don't really go too well together.
On another note, it's refreshing to see someone complaining about NK's again instead of Myofibrils. Just nice to see a change around here~ <3
What? Am I mad? Why do you ask?
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xavier zor
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Posted - 2015.08.23 00:45:00 -
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If you let someone get 2 metres close to you, you deserve to die. So many people lack awareness, even spacial awareness, it is an invaluable skill to have. You can have the best gun game in Molden Heath but that won't save you when you charge into a room of heavies, which spacial awareness would.
Knifers have to have an extreme sense of awareness to be successful and stealthy. We can't depend on E-war to save our backs (9m behind us isn't sh*t, by the time we pick the guy up we are already dead), the cloak nerf was absurd and unneeded and we have 300 hp. 300 hp means in a second you can kill us, so we cannot afford to be spotted hence why it takes skill to knife. Yes, we can run at 9m/second but as soon as someone gets knifed they go butthurt mode and pull out a gal logo, so ultimately we just have 300hp.
Also, knifing someone who is moving takes practice, especially if they are strafing. Raptor jumps are a thing of beauty,
Respect us knifers we need to have the most awareness in the game especially with shotguns destroying us. Dopping 40 with a boundless combat rifle; ppfft easy!
Dropping 40 with knives, quite a challenge.
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DAAAA BEAST
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.08.23 00:51:00 -
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Who needs gun game ?
Is it that skillful to shoot a gun until it runs out of amo at a body centered by AA ?
Or is it more satisfying to cut fresh wounds into a body until it runs out of blood , after following it for a good few minutes and slashing at the right time.
Knife game > Gun Game
I can't even believe NK's can cause QQ.
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