Ancient exiles, Fatal Absolution and 0uter.Heaven are the three OG pros that are still kicking. Add NF too if ya feel to it.

I vote for Bernie because I know I won't have to live in poverty and fear of a nuclear war. Trump only cares about the rich. It's a country, not a company. And do you even understand what a communist is? Or are you a red blooded, gungho, guns before family type of american?

For government, Donald Trump is going to bomb the middle east to nothing. This will waste time money and effort on creating bombs and using jet fuel to destroy oil rigs. And civilian casualties will be prevalent from a the bombings. Trump also said that he would rip up the Iran deal which is the stupidest move since the vietnam war. Though I like how Trump will promise to improve relations with Russia, I feel this will allow for more double standard alliances and if someone messes up, a second cold war could mean the end of everything.

I also hate the great wall of Trump idea. This is almost useless since there are hundreds of underground tunnels that the coast guard aren't aware of. So this little project will just waste tax payer dollars.

And another thing, Bernie doesn't only talk about taxes, he also wants to make college free or almost free. And raising the worlds biggest military further is another money drain. And even if we do defund pur military, what can happen? Definitely not an invasion because of raw intimidation factor and NATO. And increasing social institutions like planned parenthood and welfare would do nothing but help the people. And if we open insurance to everyone without having to pay for it, more people will start working. My proof is almost every country in the EU. I want Bernie to be our president since he is more socially responsible than any other candidate.

Edit: And Bernie wants to raise the minimum wage.

Yet seizing nuclear arms from a country that hates America with a passion isn't a good idea?

All I do is study objectively. I am a socialist liberal. I seen Bernie Sanders presidency platform. I genuinely want him to be the president.

This guy says it best.


I'll leave it at that.

While I am not going to derail this thread with it, let's just say that the U.S would go bankrupt with Trump in charge.

His history proves this, he has bought several companies and proceeded to run them so far underground that he discovered what the center of the earth is made of.

Bernie is completely able to be elected, and is not a communist. He is a socialist. It's sad that so many people can not tell the difference.

That's called 'ad hominem'. It's a logical fallacy. Look it up.

Long story short it means you're wrong.

Michael Savage and Trump are Conservative Republicans. I sense a bit of bias here.

No, it just means you are triply crazy.

I bet you yell at people about states rights, and how people are coming to take your guns away.

Probably muttering about these thugs 'round here now gettin' uppity.

Quantity does not equal quality. The Republican GOP debate was a big comedy show with 0 self awareness. And there are more variables to democratic ideals than you make it out to be.

Trump can't win a general election. He is completely unlikeable, and his current policy stances alienate almost completely female and Latino voters.

High unfavourable response in all general polls, and he won't be able to take the Republican nomination once the party realized he is a thrice married former pro-choicer. The more xenophobic and geopolitically ignorant he acts to try and garner the nomination the more he screws himself in a general election.



Godwins law. Reducto ad Hitlerum.

Second, comparing Bernie Sanders to a corporatist, militarist facist is not an appropriate generalization. It isn't even remotely accurate, although your post quality has never been of any real standard.

The more people who share your opinions and methods of presenting them, the better off the rest of the world is, we can mark you down as crazy, and step right on to talking with actual human beings.

BTW, ****** was a conservative christian capitalist white male.

Look at polling data.

More specifically, look at general election polls, where they place Trump vs Sanders, or Trump vs Clinton, he losses those match ups every single time.

Hilter wasn't a socialist, he was a facist.

You should learn what these words mean before you use them.

All dictators started off as socialists?

You clearly don't know anything about history. Look at all the installed dictators in South and Central America put there with US aid or planning that were given power to thwart socialism.

Look at the African leaders who got the same treatment. And of course, we have the GCC none of whom are socialist, all of who are tyrants.

Plus every military coup, and the various spicy revolutions, all of which are of dubious socialist leanings. Read some books son.

Tell that to the people who put these middle eastern dictators in power and armed them to the teeth in the first place. I case youre wondering, that's the USA.

The root of the middle eastern problems is the fact that the western world drew the map after WW1 according to our own interests, then erased Palestine, then installed ruthless dictators who would do our bidding.

But keep letting US media tell you it's because they're all just crazy religious fanatics who hate America for no reason

Blatant lie.

Please provide your evidence for Hilter ever standing for office for a party other than the NSDAP.

Since he only ever ran on an anti immigration, pro-military(wow, why does that sound familiar) platform for a facist party, how do you say he started out as a democratic socialist with a straight face?

You really need to understand what a socialist is before you go lumping people like Sanders and Hilter in the same group.

Here is a cheat sheet for you:

Socialism = Far Left

Facism = Far Right.

Hilter was never a liberal, or a socialist. Maybe if you learned some history in your broken school system you would be able to carry on a debate, but every post you make shows how misinformed(or deliberately misleading) you are.

Extremist Christians are no different. Doesn't matter if it is Hilter or Bush, Christians have waged some horrendous wars for civilians to live through.

Any sort of religious crap can lead people to doing crazy things.

Although currently, Christianity is very, very far ahead on body count.

BTW, the current military dictator in Egypt turned around and ordered the execution of hundreds of muslim brotherhood protesters since he coup'd a democratically elected government. As a result, the MB and other disenfranchised groups have no resorted to bombings and targeting police and government officials.

Extremist Muslim groups are largely a myth created by the American media in order to keep their populace afraid. As a result though, we all get to now live through copycats and pretenders because of the bogeyman your media created.

I feel bad for you, being so ignorant. At least you are happy though, if that old adage is to be believed.

So they called themselves a socialist party does not make them socialist. The policies and actions are why they are called facist, not because of their name choice.

Or do you only read a title of a thing and that is enough?

Are you so ******** as to not know the difference?

Are you high? Your comparison is not only invalid, it is functionally wrong. You are trying to compare a group that used a misleading name that was at odds with their policies(NSDAP) with a group that has a unified structure and policies(DAESH).

No, DAESH is an Islamic extremist group, based on their actions and policies as well as their propaganda.

Doesn't make the NSDAP anything other than a facist party.

Hilter was never a socialist. You are completely wrong, and no amount of fallacies will erase that.

By absolute numbers or by proportion?

Do you count observant or culturally religious?

Shiite, Sunni, Salafi, Wahhabi?

Do you want to count Orthodox Christians as well?

Do you count political extremists who are Muslim as a Muslim extremist or as a political one?

You are asking a very complex question, and from your posts, you don't have the capability of actually realizing it. I doubt this will be productive. I'm arguing with a mentally deficient manchild who hasn't even read some of the key literature on the Middle East and wants to bring bigotry back.