DUST Search - Throw Back 514 - A look back at the Heavy Event of 2014

One Eyed King wrote:

rizan baig wrote:

Can someone explain what bandwidth is and what it does? Thanks in advance

It limits the amount of EQ that you can have deployed during a fight.

If you have 16 BW, and your piece of EQ, say an uplink, costs 4 BW, then you can only deploy 4 of them. If you deploy a 5th, or if you deploy an RE, then your first uplink you dropped will cease to exist.

If you have 4 uplinks out, and switch to a heavy, which has 0 BW, then all items cease to exist.

It was to combat uplink spam, which was weighing down the game, not to mention being a pain. People would start the match in a Logi, spam uplinks, then switch to a Heavy and mow people down while still gaining tons of WP from their links.

Likewise, in my scout suit, I had 2 EQ, which I could use for uplinks, and I had 3 seperate uplink fits. At the time, you could only carry 2 uplinks per EQ slot, so I would lay 6 uplinks, then switch to my other scout fits. While I enjoyed this, it infringed on the Logi role enough that it became an issue.

BW was the idea that was put in place to fix those issues.

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NextDark Knight Hellstorm LLC 854	Posted - 2015.08.19 15:48:00 - [1] - Quote Here is a video from the Scout Heavy Event CCP did back in Feb 2014. Looking at this video from all the stuff nerfed and scaled back on the Sentinel frames and gameplay in general. Try to have some fun spotting all the changes from over a year ago. https://youtu.be/6LIZP8Prrkw [ List of notifiable changes with timestamp ] Over 60+ Million SP and full proto in all Caldari Suits. Dust just won't die on PS3/Xbox. Dustin since 6/29/2012
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 8	Posted - 2015.08.19 16:17:00 - [2] - Quote Thank God for the bandwidth implementation. I miss the Shinobi Event. That was back when I only had 1 proto suit. The Gallente Scout haha! *Scouts United* Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
NextDark Knight Hellstorm LLC 854	Posted - 2015.08.19 16:38:00 - [3] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Thank God for the bandwidth implementation. I miss the Shinobi Event. That was back when I only had 1 proto suit. The Gallente Scout haha! Lag,, what lag?? While I do like the idea of bandwidth having 0 bandwidth on a heavy is just silly. Not playing my heavy suit because 15 other bluedots can't drop uplinks is so stupid. Of course half the stuff I use to do has been removed from the game. Over 60+ Million SP and full proto in all Caldari Suits. Dust just won't die on PS3/Xbox. Dustin since 6/29/2012
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 819	Posted - 2015.08.19 16:42:00 - [4] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: Joel II X wrote: Thank God for the bandwidth implementation. I miss the Shinobi Event. That was back when I only had 1 proto suit. The Gallente Scout haha! Lag,, what lag?? While I do like the idea of bandwidth having 0 bandwidth on a heavy is just silly. Not playing my heavy suit because 15 other bluedots can't drop uplinks is so stupid. Of course half the stuff I use to do has been removed from the game. Heavies being able to multi-task between having top HP/DPS and be able to place gear is stretching our effectiveness too far. I completely support heavies having no bandwidth - and I'm a dedicated heavy player specced fully into Logi. And i agree that i shouldn't be able to fill multiple roles at once.
NextDark Knight Hellstorm LLC 854	Posted - 2015.08.19 16:53:00 - [5] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: I completely support heavies having no bandwidth - and I'm a dedicated heavy player specced fully into Logi. And i agree that i shouldn't be able to fill multiple roles at once. Your not agreeing with me, You take time away from being in a heavy suit to deploy equipment. That's the trade off. That 2 mins you spend switching out suits or wasting a clone is the cost. If your get fluxed you have to again take time away from being in a heavy to redeploy. It's like a large group of the player base places no value on the time spent on the field multi tasking. So sure pick on the guy with two weapon options, is the biggest target on the field, has horrible scan precision and em signature is the biggest and easiest to scan on the field. Over 60+ Million SP and full proto in all Caldari Suits. Dust just won't die on PS3/Xbox. Dustin since 6/29/2012
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 819	Posted - 2015.08.19 17:01:00 - [6] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: I completely support heavies having no bandwidth - and I'm a dedicated heavy player specced fully into Logi. And i agree that i shouldn't be able to fill multiple roles at once. Your not agreeing with me, You take time away from being in a heavy suit to deploy equipment. That's the trade off. That 2 mins you spend switching out suits or wasting a clone is the cost. If your get fluxed you have to again take time away from being in a heavy to redeploy. It's like a large group of the player base places no value on the time spent on the field multi tasking. So sure pick on the guy with two weapon options, is the biggest target on the field, has horrible scan precision and em signature is the biggest and easiest to scan on the field. That is not a trade off, especially with how maps are designed. Trade offs to begin with generally means you give up one thing to do another. What you describe is a win-win. You can both place links and be a heavy player - which means in maps like Science Facility, you could switch to logi, place a bunch of links and repair hives - switch to heavy, and just hold the corridors, not letting fluxes get close enough to deal with it. Throw in you might actually have a competent team.... And even if you don't - you doing everything for your team is just enabling your team to continue to be ********. it just makes no sense to allow super players when NPE is as bad as it is.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 12	Posted - 2015.08.19 17:11:00 - [7] - Quote Remote Tossing HMG with huge range and never overheats EQUIP SPAM RR Hipfire from the gods Scouts wouldn't pop up on close range scans eWAR mattered the list goes on. Currently listening to: Tsukihime OST Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.08.19 17:33:00 - [8] - Quote I see a lot that has been improved. I'm in favour of bandwidth. The rail rifle had insanely good hipfire, which I'm glad got changed. I also like the increased sentinel defence and heat build up. I miss the potency of the HMG though. Particularly with the heat build up we have now. I think heavy damage mods should be 7%.
NextDark Knight Hellstorm LLC 855	Posted - 2015.08.19 18:39:00 - [9] - Quote Updated Over 60+ Million SP and full proto in all Caldari Suits. Dust just won't die on PS3/Xbox. Dustin since 6/29/2012
Tiny Pineapple Corrosive Synergy No Context 319	Posted - 2015.08.19 19:47:00 - [10] - Quote You carried 3 flux or locus grenades instead of 2. You can't handle all this synergy.

rizan baig Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 138	Posted - 2015.08.19 19:50:00 - [11] - Quote Can someone explain what bandwidth is and what it does? Thanks in advance Darth-Carbonite for CPM2!
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 11	Posted - 2015.08.19 20:16:00 - [12] - Quote rizan baig wrote: Can someone explain what bandwidth is and what it does? Thanks in advance It limits the amount of EQ that you can have deployed during a fight. If you have 16 BW, and your piece of EQ, say an uplink, costs 4 BW, then you can only deploy 4 of them. If you deploy a 5th, or if you deploy an RE, then your first uplink you dropped will cease to exist. If you have 4 uplinks out, and switch to a heavy, which has 0 BW, then all items cease to exist. It was to combat uplink spam, which was weighing down the game, not to mention being a pain. People would start the match in a Logi, spam uplinks, then switch to a Heavy and mow people down while still gaining tons of WP from their links. Likewise, in my scout suit, I had 2 EQ, which I could use for uplinks, and I had 3 seperate uplink fits. At the time, you could only carry 2 uplinks per EQ slot, so I would lay 6 uplinks, then switch to my other scout fits. While I enjoyed this, it infringed on the Logi role enough that it became an issue. BW was the idea that was put in place to fix those issues. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 8	Posted - 2015.08.19 20:28:00 - [13] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: I completely support heavies having no bandwidth - and I'm a dedicated heavy player specced fully into Logi. And i agree that i shouldn't be able to fill multiple roles at once. Your not agreeing with me, You take time away from being in a heavy suit to deploy equipment. That's the trade off. That 2 mins you spend switching out suits or wasting a clone is the cost. If your get fluxed you have to again take time away from being in a heavy to redeploy. It's like a large group of the player base places no value on the time spent on the field multi tasking. So sure pick on the guy with two weapon options, is the biggest target on the field, has horrible scan precision and em signature is the biggest and easiest to scan on the field. Then what would be the point of having logistics other than to repair other heavies? Bandwidth was one of the better changes we've ever had. The facility Depot take dedication to keep clogged now. *Scouts United* Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
rizan baig Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 139	Posted - 2015.08.19 20:45:00 - [14] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: rizan baig wrote: Can someone explain what bandwidth is and what it does? Thanks in advance It limits the amount of EQ that you can have deployed during a fight. If you have 16 BW, and your piece of EQ, say an uplink, costs 4 BW, then you can only deploy 4 of them. If you deploy a 5th, or if you deploy an RE, then your first uplink you dropped will cease to exist. If you have 4 uplinks out, and switch to a heavy, which has 0 BW, then all items cease to exist. It was to combat uplink spam, which was weighing down the game, not to mention being a pain. People would start the match in a Logi, spam uplinks, then switch to a Heavy and mow people down while still gaining tons of WP from their links. Likewise, in my scout suit, I had 2 EQ, which I could use for uplinks, and I had 3 seperate uplink fits. At the time, you could only carry 2 uplinks per EQ slot, so I would lay 6 uplinks, then switch to my other scout fits. While I enjoyed this, it infringed on the Logi role enough that it became an issue. BW was the idea that was put in place to fix those issues. You sir, are an MVP! Thank you for the amazing explanation :D Darth-Carbonite for CPM2!
maybe deadcatz the nomercs 517	Posted - 2015.08.19 20:49:00 - [15] - Quote I saw it all. Man I miss the days when the kill lfeed had nothing but basic and advanced weapons. I joined the game somewhere where rail rifles were op. I thought back then that proto stuff was really hard to get a hold of(then the sp payouts went really good,now any jerkoff can get the sp to permascan in a gal logi in about 2-3 weeks) Nowadays the only things you see in the killfeed is proto and the annoying you have been scanned message. Need a speedy bro scout? Mail me,comes with shotgun and 20 pound bag of catnip for teh clonocide.(teh fak,cannot spell)
NextDark Knight Hellstorm LLC 856	Posted - 2015.08.19 22:57:00 - [16] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Then what would be the point of having logistics other than to repair other heavies? Bandwidth was one of the better changes we've ever had. The facility Depot take dedication to keep clogged now. I wouldn't mind so much if Assault suits had no bandwidth when the trade off should be using the basic medium frame, but to only pin 0 bandwidth on heavy basic and sentinel is just a **** move. Try telling the assaults they will get 0 bandwdith and can only equip scanners and needles because deployable is a role for Scouts and Logies. Good luck with that argument. Also, no one noticed the splash damage on the tank?? Pretty sure that was removed as well. Over 60+ Million SP and full proto in all Caldari Suits. Dust just won't die on PS3/Xbox. Dustin since 6/29/2012


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