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Leovarian L Lavitz
Vader's-Fist
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Posted - 2015.08.18 14:44:00 -
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I'm ready:
http://www.dell.com/us/eep/p/alienware-alpha/pd?c=us&cs=6099&link_number=17967581&c=us&l=en&s=eep&dgc=BA&cid=289796&lid=5557940&acd=12309214960340877c60254393&ven3=771902969116819758
Youtube: Dust 514 - You should Have Worn Proto
Dueling is my specialty
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.08.18 14:47:00 -
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Those look cool but I'd still rather have my PC so I can keep upgrading it. It's funny how consoles now are just really trying to become little computers :3 Certainly more convenient at least
Also lol @ DUST on PC. Not because it wouldn't be good, but because CCP is ADD.
I am a beautiful space manatee, flying through the sky with the greatest of ease
Swarms everywhere.
WoD 514
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
924
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Posted - 2015.08.18 14:56:00 -
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Don't buy this, it's over expensive for what it is. I once posted a link to a nice config (screen, mouse and keyboard included) that cost 510Gé¼. Much better than thiw fake "gaming consle PC" and upgradable.
Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER !
- Sequal Rise
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4lbert Wesker
Standby Retaliation
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Posted - 2015.08.18 14:59:00 -
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What in the world is that piece of ****? Really? You couldn't build yourself far more better custom computer for the same money? I can't understand those console peasants....
WESKER S.T.A.R.S. is not my corporation!
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2015.08.18 15:07:00 -
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A PC pretending to be a console with half the memory of a PS4/XboxOne but at the same price? Where's the #PCMASTERRACE now? |
Leovarian L Lavitz
Vader's-Fist
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Posted - 2015.08.18 15:08:00 -
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4lbert Wesker wrote:What in the world is that piece of ****? Really? You couldn't build yourself far more better custom computer for the same money? I can't understand those console peasants....
I see how you offer no constructive advice and just thrash around foaming at the mouth.
Now, to build the PC version for eazies:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.2115495
Youtube: Dust 514 - You should Have Worn Proto
Dueling is my specialty
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.08.18 15:10:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Where's the #PCMASTERRACE now? PC gamers would, more than likely, build their own machine for cheaper and with better specs. When you are buying Alienware you are basically paying a premium for not being able to build your own damn machine, despite how easy it is.
In short, Alienware is for console players 
@Ripley_Riley Ripley.Riley on Skype!
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noob cavman
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.08.18 15:13:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Where's the #PCMASTERRACE now? PC gamers would, more than likely, build their own machine for cheaper and with better specs. When you are buying Alienware you are basically paying a premium for not being able to build your own damn machine, despite how easy it is. In short, Alienware is for console players
I thought that was macs?
but if your buying alienware your basically paying for brand and nothing else.
The most abusive northerner.
currently reading the barrow by mark smylie... shit be dark yo!
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Koch Rosenzweig
S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D
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Posted - 2015.08.18 15:14:00 -
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Hackers waiting for this
D4GG3R's FAN - - - SOG's Director & FC
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.08.18 15:14:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:I thought that was macs? But if you're buying alienware your basically paying for brand and nothing else. When you are buying a Mac you are paying for all your college-age friends to think you are cool and/or because you have MASSIVE amounts of money and very little sense.
@Ripley_Riley Ripley.Riley on Skype!
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2015.08.18 15:17:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Where's the #PCMASTERRACE now? PC gamers would, more than likely, build their own machine for cheaper and with better specs. When you are buying Alienware you are basically paying a premium for not being able to build your own damn machine, despite how easy it is. In short, Alienware is for console players
I doubt any console player would buy something with half of the memory their console has for the same price :/
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2015.08.18 15:18:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:noob cavman wrote:I thought that was macs? But if you're buying alienware your basically paying for brand and nothing else. When you are buying a Mac you are paying for all your college-age friends to think you are cool and/or because you have MASSIVE amounts of money and very little sense.
Well, if you don't want to build a hackintosh, that's the only option you have if you want to use a real OS. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.08.18 15:28:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:noob cavman wrote:I thought that was macs? But if you're buying alienware your basically paying for brand and nothing else. When you are buying a Mac you are paying for all your college-age friends to think you are cool and/or because you have MASSIVE amounts of money and very little sense.
I bought a Mac because I was tired of my PC breaking every six months. First a hard drive failed on my PC, then the graphics card melted. I replaced it with a Mac 5 years ago and have never had any problems with it. It still runs EVE fine.
... And during our long cold Canadian winters it keeps my computer room toasty warm.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.08.18 15:32:00 -
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Well as a 'console peasant' (charming) who also games on a PC, I have to agree with the sentiment that product from the 'high-end' PC manufacturers such as Alienware is proof of style winning over substance.
If you want an all in one system with little to no thought on your part then they'll do. But you're buying way over the odds for that convenience.
If you can wire a plug you can build a PC. I did and I've built several more since for family and friends.
The truth is with a bit of research, asking for advice and following any one of the dozens of guides online, you can build for the same cost as an Alienware and their ilk a PC that'll look as good and blow them out of the water in terms of performance and last you for years.
CPM 1&2 Member
CEO of DUST University
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.08.18 15:35:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:I bought a Mac because I was tired of my PC breaking every six months. First a hard drive failed on my PC, then the graphics card melted. I replaced it with a Mac 5 years ago and have never had any problems with it. It still runs EVE fine. Prior to purchasing my new PC, the old machine lasted 6 years. I added a new stick of RAM, but otherwise it had the same parts as when it was built. I never had to replace a faulty part.
Not arguing with you, Fox. Just pointing out that your experience with a PC is by no means the standard.
@Ripley_Riley Ripley.Riley on Skype!
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.08.18 15:37:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:The truth is with a bit of research, asking for advice and following any one of the dozens of guides online, you can build for the same cost as an Alienware and their ilk a PC that'll look as good and blow them out of the water in terms of performance and last you for years. Amen. Building a PC sounds intimidating until you do it for the first time. Then you wonder why you didn't do this years ago.
@Ripley_Riley Ripley.Riley on Skype!
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2015.08.18 15:38:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:noob cavman wrote:I thought that was macs? But if you're buying alienware your basically paying for brand and nothing else. When you are buying a Mac you are paying for all your college-age friends to think you are cool and/or because you have MASSIVE amounts of money and very little sense. I bought a Mac because I was tired of my PC breaking every six months. First a hard drive failed on my PC, then the graphics card melted. I replaced it with a Mac 5 years ago and have never had any problems with it. It still runs EVE fine. ... And during our long cold Canadian winters it keeps my computer room toasty warm.
I bought an iMac five years ago, and the only problem I ever had was the DVD Drive: it never froze, never crashed, never rebooted for no reasons.
Now I'm planning to build a "Hackintosh" Pro (saving more than 1000 Gé¼) and since I unfortunately also need Windows I'll add another SSD with Win on it. MacOs is so superior that I still can't believe why people are still using Windows... |
Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.08.18 16:00:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:MacOs is so superior that I still can't believe people are still using Windows...
You know nothing about OS and computers in general right?? MacOS is made for people who wants to use their computer as a phone. It's all locked everywhere so you can't customize it as you want. Great to surf on the internet and for social medias, but for everything else, it has nothing more than windows.
On your "memory argument", a good 8Go GSkill or Corsair RAM is MUCH BETTER than some cheap 16Go RAM. You have to look precisely at the brands used and the carac of each components if you really want to compare a PC with a console.
THEN, they don't serve the same purpose. It's completely stupid to compare a pc and a console.
Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER !
- Sequal Rise
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.08.18 16:01:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:
Alienware is the failest of the fail tier.
Overpriced underperforming junk. Build it yourself. You'll save money and get better performance.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2015.08.18 16:29:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:MacOs is so superior that I still can't believe people are still using Windows... You know nothing about OS and computers in general right?? MacOS is made for people who wants to use their computer as a phone. It's all locked everywhere so you can't customize it as you want. Great to surf on the internet and for social medias, but for everything else, it has nothing more than windows. On your "memory argument", a good 8Go GSkill or Corsair RAM is MUCH BETTER than some cheap 16Go RAM. You have to look precisely at the brands used and the carac of each components if you really want to compare a PC with a console. THEN, they don't serve the same purpose. It's completely stupid to compare a pc and a console.
This is a yes and no answer:
I can only speak based on personal experience with both Windows and Mac and for what I do ( 3d art, Sound Design/Music, Stupid Games Design and all the other little thing you do with a computer), Mac is way better. Can't understand the customization point, I always did pretty much everything I needed to do on Mac, except gaming: I use a console for that.
Just to be precise, although what you say is completely fine, the RAM in a computer and the one in a console are different. Not because they are physically different but because they're used in a very different way.
I'll make it easy to understand: back when PS3 and PC gaming was on par (performance and look), you needed at least 2-4, gigs of RAM on your PC, while the PS3 only has 512 M, how would you explain that? That Alienware thing (the one that costs around 500$) is going nowhere against current-gen consoles simply because it's a PC with 4 gigs of ram, not a dedicated game-machine.
And, right, the real problem is they don't serve the same purpose. You can build a much better PC for that price, better than a console, probably, but still both of the Alienware things are absolutely not worth the price, whether you compare them to a console or a PC .  |
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.08.18 16:35:00 -
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OS as a political commentary:
Mac: authoritarian, you have 'your own life' that is exactly like everyone else making 'choices' that are nothing more than smoke and mirror tricks to keep you happy
Windows: republic/corporatism, commerce and trade are huge, but so is big money and corruption is just stupid high. If you can make it work, youll be set, if not...good luck.
Linux: you are a mountain man, no one bothers you, nor would they cause youll shoot them dead far outside their range. Total and complete freedom. Until something breaks (like a leg, or in the os a kernel) and you're completely effed.
'As salty as salt can get.' how I describe the dust player base.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2015.08.18 16:41:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:OS as a political commentary:
Mac: authoritarian, you have 'your own life' that is exactly like everyone else making 'choices' that are nothing more than smoke and mirror tricks to keep you happy
Windows: republic/corporatism, commerce and trade are huge, but so is big money and corruption is just stupid high. If you can make it work, youll be set, if not...good luck.
Linux: you are a mountain man, no one bothers you, nor would they cause youll shoot them dead far outside their range. Total and complete freedom. Until something breaks (like a leg, or in the os a kernel) and you're completely effed.
I seriously laughed out loud at the mountain man part. |
4lbert Wesker
Standby Retaliation
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Posted - 2015.08.18 16:52:00 -
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There is only one real question:
What Mac can do but Windows PC can't do?
WESKER S.T.A.R.S. is not my corporation!
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.08.18 16:54:00 -
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4lbert Wesker wrote:What Mac can do but Windows PC can't do? Video/audio stuff and cost you absolutely ridiculous amounts of money.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2015.08.18 16:58:00 -
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4lbert Wesker wrote:There is only one real question:
What Mac can do but Windows PC can't do?
Quote:It feels like trading in a Ford Mondeo for a Ferrari Enzo.
Read more: http://www.itpro.co.uk/desktop-software/21624/os-x-vs-windows-8-reasons-to-switch-to-mac#ixzz3jBdCBVGo
Still, Windows PC are much better when it comes to gaming. It's simply up to you, based on what you want to do with that computer. |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.08.18 18:22:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:OS as a political commentary:
Mac: authoritarian, you have 'your own life' that is exactly like everyone else making 'choices' that are nothing more than smoke and mirror tricks to keep you happy
Windows: republic/corporatism, commerce and trade are huge, but so is big money and corruption is just stupid high. If you can make it work, youll be set, if not...good luck.
Linux: you are a mountain man, no one bothers you, nor would they cause youll shoot them dead far outside their range. Total and complete freedom. Until something breaks (like a leg, or in the os a kernel) and you're completely effed. I seriously laughed out loud at the mountain man part.
ditto
CPM 1&2 Member
CEO of DUST University
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Void Echo
Helix Evolution I.W.C
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Posted - 2015.08.18 19:58:00 -
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With a computer, you have to continue to spend money to keep the thing upgraded and running properly. With a console I only payed $400 once and that was 6 years ago
Closed Beta Vet.
Founder of Helix Evolution I.W.C
Playstation 4 = Future of Dust514.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
2
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Posted - 2015.08.18 20:00:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:With a computer, you have to continue to spend money to keep the thing upgraded and running properly. With a console I only payed $400 once and that was 6 years ago
I paid $800 for my rig 6 years ago that still roles at 2x the specs of the current generation.
Just like life, if you know what you're doing, zit works out pretty damn well.
'As salty as salt can get.' how I describe the dust player base.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
3
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Posted - 2015.08.18 20:06:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Void Echo wrote:With a computer, you have to continue to spend money to keep the thing upgraded and running properly. With a console I only payed $400 once and that was 6 years ago I paid $800 for my rig 6 years ago that still roles at 2x the specs of the current generation. Just like life, if you know what you're doing, zit works out pretty damn well.
You're both right imo. At this point is a personal choice: I also prefer consoles for what concerns gaming even tho I'm concious that I'mnot having the same quality I might have with a PC. |
Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.08.18 21:42:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:4lbert Wesker wrote:What Mac can do but Windows PC can't do? Video/audio stuff and cost you absolutely ridiculous amounts of money.
For the price you pay the mac, you can have a much better PC that can do video and audio stuffs even better ^^
On the customization part, there are many more softwares on PC, you can play a lot more videogames (which is important  ), you don't have to use some stupid overlocked applications like iTunes to put music on your phones, you are not forced to use the one and only software that can read a PDF if you don't like it (just an example), etc...
Linux is great for developpement and managing. It's the best lego OS you'll ever find if you want to get into complicate stuffs. But nowadays Windows got some great tools to do everything as easily as Linux does ^^
Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER !
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psyanyde
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Posted - 2015.08.18 21:52:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Those look cool but I'd still rather have my PC so I can keep upgrading it. It's funny how consoles now are just really trying to become little computers :3 Certainly more convenient at least
Also lol @ DUST on PC. Not because it wouldn't be good, but because CCP is ADD.
They are upgradeable tho...maybe not lolDell, but there are ones that will be
Liek dis:
http://www.sybergaming.com/products/steam-machine-i.aspx
OG Blueberry
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Vesta Opalus
Rebels New Republic
The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.08.18 21:56:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:
Please never buy alienware. |
maybe deadcatz
the nomercs
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Posted - 2015.08.18 23:04:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:[quote=xxwhitedevilxx M]MacOs is so superior that I still can't believe people are still using Windows...
That statement gave the even me who isn't all the way for PC master race(because he plays dust and ps4 and xbox360) cancer.
Only good thing about a Mac is the frilly brand name(I lied) and the shiny things you can make on em(like graphics and music)
Other than that. Mac just sucks for me. And who the hell designed the mouse and keyboard for that thing(the mouse just looks like sp3rm and that's creepy,the keybaord was super thin and cramped my fingers)
I'd rather have the flexible windows pc. At least I can understand how to work it.
And fix it.(when I fuxk it up somehow)
And fine tune it.
And not have to download software to get my ANDROID phone to mass move all the files and stuff I need for random things.
And not have to pay stupid prices for repairs or just buying the computer.
I mean the iphones.... Come on.... They just get more pathetic by the number.
It's all a matter of choice. Just saying.
Need a speedy bro scout? Mail me,comes with shotgun and 20 pound bag of catnip for teh clonocide.(teh fak,cannot spell)
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
3
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Posted - 2015.08.18 23:08:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:[quote=xxwhitedevilxx M]MacOs is so superior that I still can't believe people are still using Windows... That statement gave the even me who isn't all the way for PC master race(because he plays dust and ps4 and xbox360) cancer. Only good thing about a Mac is the frilly brand name(I lied) and the shiny things you can make on em(like graphics and music) Other than that. Mac just sucks for me. And who the hell designed the mouse and keyboard for that thing(the mouse just looks like sp3rm and that's creepy,the keybaord was super thin and cramped my fingers) I'd rather have the flexible windows pc. At least I can understand how to work it. And fix it.(when I fuxk it up somehow) And fine tune it. And not have to download software to get my ANDROID phone to mass move all the files and stuff I need for random things. And not have to pay stupid prices for repairs or just buying the computer. I mean the iphones.... Come on.... They just get more pathetic by the number. It's all a matter of choice. Just saying.
Well, yeah, I was talking about MacOS, not Apple frenchise in general.... |
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