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CUSE TOWN333
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.17 13:17:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:what i don't get is how these pubstars can run protoeverything and lose 5+ suits a match constantly. its called being rich. you should try it sometime.
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.08.17 14:13:00 -
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Can bob the builder fix it?
CEO of 48SOF
Assault Gk.0-Scout Gk.0
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E-Rock
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
112
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Posted - 2015.08.17 14:24:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:I see a lot of people accusing others of being pubstars and battle leavers.
Pubstar: Frequent pub player proto-stomping with a squad in a public match. Usually consists of a gal logi + tank. Often boasts about skill referring to public match scores.
Battle leaver: Player who repeatedly leaves battle at the sight of opposition.
Players who regularly play pubs and stomp are no different from PC players who regularly play pubs and stomp; they are both far better than the average merc and have the ability to kill a lot of things. Just because they get good scores in pubs doesn't mean they are pubstars. Kaizuka is a good example, many of you probably don't know but back when Nyain held 40% of MH (i can't remember) on stacked timers Kaizuka was there fighting. He plays pubs now probably due to there being a lack of willing competition at 13:00 timers, and he needs ISK for his proto tanks.
Battle leavers do not want a hard fight, they are unskilled. They won't ever be good because they don't challenge themselves. If you see someone just leave do not assume they are a battle leaver; they might have family visit that they have not seen for a few months, their dog may have fell off a veranda and broken its leg, their oven may have caught on fire or the police may have been knocking on their door. If you see him leaving battle after battle he is a battle leaver.
Don't go throwing insults around because someone does far better than you could ever do in a pub. that should have cleared some confusion up.
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E-Rock
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.08.17 14:48:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:I see a lot of people accusing others of being pubstars and battle leavers.
Pubstar: Frequent pub player proto-stomping with a squad in a public match. Usually consists of a gal logi + tank. Often boasts about skill referring to public match scores.
Battle leaver: Player who repeatedly leaves battle at the sight of opposition.
Players who regularly play pubs and stomp are no different from PC players who regularly play pubs and stomp; they are both far better than the average merc and have the ability to kill a lot of things. Just because they get good scores in pubs doesn't mean they are pubstars. Kaizuka is a good example, many of you probably don't know but back when Nyain held 40% of MH (i can't remember) on stacked timers Kaizuka was there fighting. He plays pubs now probably due to there being a lack of willing competition at 13:00 timers, and he needs ISK for his proto tanks.
Battle leavers do not want a hard fight, they are unskilled. They won't ever be good because they don't challenge themselves. If you see someone just leave do not assume they are a battle leaver; they might have family visit that they have not seen for a few months, their dog may have fell off a veranda and broken its leg, their oven may have caught on fire or the police may have been knocking on their door. If you see him leaving battle after battle he is a battle leaver.
Don't go throwing insults around because someone does far better than you could ever do in a pub. that should have cleared some confusion up.
I know that I get into it with you quite a bit but here goes. 1) I have seen you leave so many battles when your score is bad. Usually you'll die 3 to 4 times and either red line snipe or leave that battle altogether, usually the latter, and then I'll see you in the next match. I will agree with you, however, that they is such an large amount of people that leave battles at the first sight of people that they are not sure that they can beat or people that leave whenever 50% of the points are in favor of the enemy team in skirm or dom. Lest we for get that most of the people that play this game are thickheaded or are noobs to boot. 2) At this point in the game, proto stomping is not a viable complaint. There is so much isk being thrown around and with the way the market works, players that were otherwise broke, are millionaires if not billionaires. Play the market, get isk, stomp,repeat. 3) Kaizuka is a good friend of mine and he is not broke at all. As you know, Nyain san farmed the mess out of those districts and still hold an absurd amount of isk.
As for leaving battles, don't throw stones when you live in a glass house. No love lost Zor. See you on the battlefield
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axis alpha
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.17 14:51:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:what i don't get is how these pubstars can run protoeverything and lose 5+ suits a match constantly. its called being rich. you should try it sometime. You know Damn well he won't ever get the chance to be "rich"
I'm not talkin wealthy. I'm talking FILTHY stinkin throwing isk at minmatar women's faces kind of rich.
I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
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MrCriminal High Power
Art.of.Death
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Posted - 2015.08.17 14:54:00 -
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Hector Carson wrote:lol battle leavers need to not get anything for leaving the battle early Umm the don't get anything for leaving battle.
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
851
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Posted - 2015.08.17 15:06:00 -
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My reaction
Caldari Loyalist. ( -í° -£-û -í°) No.
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
1
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Posted - 2015.08.17 15:53:00 -
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Is this the moral of the day post or...?
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xavier zor
Abyss of Universe
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Posted - 2015.08.17 23:36:00 -
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E-Rock wrote:xavier zor wrote:I see a lot of people accusing others of being pubstars and battle leavers.
Pubstar: Frequent pub player proto-stomping with a squad in a public match. Usually consists of a gal logi + tank. Often boasts about skill referring to public match scores.
Battle leaver: Player who repeatedly leaves battle at the sight of opposition.
Players who regularly play pubs and stomp are no different from PC players who regularly play pubs and stomp; they are both far better than the average merc and have the ability to kill a lot of things. Just because they get good scores in pubs doesn't mean they are pubstars. Kaizuka is a good example, many of you probably don't know but back when Nyain held 40% of MH (i can't remember) on stacked timers Kaizuka was there fighting. He plays pubs now probably due to there being a lack of willing competition at 13:00 timers, and he needs ISK for his proto tanks.
Battle leavers do not want a hard fight, they are unskilled. They won't ever be good because they don't challenge themselves. If you see someone just leave do not assume they are a battle leaver; they might have family visit that they have not seen for a few months, their dog may have fell off a veranda and broken its leg, their oven may have caught on fire or the police may have been knocking on their door. If you see him leaving battle after battle he is a battle leaver.
Don't go throwing insults around because someone does far better than you could ever do in a pub. that should have cleared some confusion up. I know that I get into it with you quite a bit but here goes. 1) I have seen you leave so many battles when your score is bad. Usually you'll die 3 to 4 times and either red line snipe or leave that battle altogether, usually the latter, and then I'll see you in the next match. I will agree with you, however, that they is such an large amount of people that leave battles at the first sight of people that they are not sure that they can beat or people that leave whenever 50% of the points are in favor of the enemy team in skirm or dom. Lest we for get that most of the people that play this game are thickheaded or are noobs to boot. 2) At this point in the game, proto stomping is not a viable complaint. There is so much isk being thrown around and with the way the market works, players that were otherwise broke, are millionaires if not billionaires. Play the market, get isk, stomp,repeat. 3) Kaizuka is a good friend of mine and he is not broke at all. As you know, Nyain san farmed the mess out of those districts and still hold an absurd amount of isk. As for leaving battles, don't throw stones when you live in a glass house. No love lost Zor. See you on the battlefield
i didn't say he was broke, but he will eventually be losing ISK each battle. I don't leave battles, you must have mistaken me for someone else....i remember a gal FW i played with you guys, it was a redline fest. My team had 5 points, so boring...i'd rather BE redlined than redline.
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DEATH THE KlD
Imperfect - Bastards
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Posted - 2015.08.17 23:47:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:Omaarion27 wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:what i don't get is how these pubstars can run protoeverything and lose 5+ suits a match constantly. who loses 5 suits each match?? eh This is exactly the problem. In a well fought, interesting fight, you should lose 10 suits. There's hardly in game dust included where I die 10+ times..that includes pc I'm just a superior being |
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xavier zor
Abyss of Universe
2
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Posted - 2015.08.17 23:50:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:The problem is, if you try to stop a protostomp you go isk negative. It's better for both sides if one gives up, or runs free gear whilst the other stomps. This is bad.
Low reward matches should be meta locked. Better for newer players. High reward matches should give high enough rewards so that if you fight proto with proto you can still make some isk.
The ultimate reward for wealth should be power in the persistent universe. Buying expensive assets for PC. Hiring mercs to fight for you, etc. At the moment the reward is stomping less wealthy merc's faces into the dirt in boring pub match stomps, which isn't much fun for anyone.
meta-locked matches aint happening with this low a playerbase and the countless exploits it offers. Not to mention how further off the 'mercenary fighting in Eve universe' idea the devs have strayed off already.
Stomping mercs when no one on your team is doing jack **** is quite enjoyable IMO. Redlining them aint, so i use a roden sniper
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StoneSmasher Drugga
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
103
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Posted - 2015.08.18 00:03:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:what i don't get is how these pubstars can run protoeverything and lose 5+ suits a match constantly.
They might have 5 deaths, but usually just get needled so don't lose their suit is my guess.
There is no evil greater than hyperbole.
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Soldier Sorajord
Subsonic Synthesis
190
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Posted - 2015.08.18 00:10:00 -
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All I'm gonna say, is it's hard to hop on and have fun for even a few games when all you run into in a game is a "PubStar" and all his "PubStar" buddies running nothing but proto,
I wouldn't care, except for this happens every game. I consistently run BPO gear, and when I do, I run into nothing but pub stompers, be they on my side or the enemy. Take a look at the other side, a few people from a corp nobody's ever heard about. Because that's balanced, right?
Sometimes it feels like I need to run nothing but proto gear with an entire squad to do any good. I shouldn't have to do that. New players should not have to do that. But they do. It's crap.
I'm one of the blueberries that Isn't useless, cause I always have a rep tool, and USE IT. B)
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Soldier Sorajord
Subsonic Synthesis
190
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Posted - 2015.08.18 00:11:00 -
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StoneSmasher Drugga wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:what i don't get is how these pubstars can run protoeverything and lose 5+ suits a match constantly. They might have 5 deaths, but usually just get needled so don't lose their suit is my guess. Exactly. Their 3 Pubstar buddies go and get a revenge kill, and lo and behold they all run a wiykromi needle, boom straight back up and back to more stomping.
I'm one of the blueberries that Isn't useless, cause I always have a rep tool, and USE IT. B)
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xavier zor
Abyss of Universe
2
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Posted - 2015.08.18 10:01:00 -
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Soldier Sorajord wrote:StoneSmasher Drugga wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:what i don't get is how these pubstars can run protoeverything and lose 5+ suits a match constantly. They might have 5 deaths, but usually just get needled so don't lose their suit is my guess. Exactly. Their 3 Pubstar buddies go and get a revenge kill, and lo and behold they all run a wiykromi needle, boom straight back up and back to more stomping.
i respect those who can solo stomp, even vs a squad
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Beld Errmon
2
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Posted - 2015.08.18 10:05:00 -
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Soldier Sorajord wrote:StoneSmasher Drugga wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:what i don't get is how these pubstars can run protoeverything and lose 5+ suits a match constantly. They might have 5 deaths, but usually just get needled so don't lose their suit is my guess. Exactly. Their 3 Pubstar buddies go and get a revenge kill, and lo and behold they all run a wiykromi needle, boom straight back up and back to more stomping.
thats why you should always make sure to kick them a little while they are down, a few extra bullets into their suit may cost you your life but it costs them more :)
Assault Dropship Pilot
Semi-Retired Closed Bittervet
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Beld Errmon
2
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Posted - 2015.08.18 10:07:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:Soldier Sorajord wrote:StoneSmasher Drugga wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:what i don't get is how these pubstars can run protoeverything and lose 5+ suits a match constantly. They might have 5 deaths, but usually just get needled so don't lose their suit is my guess. Exactly. Their 3 Pubstar buddies go and get a revenge kill, and lo and behold they all run a wiykromi needle, boom straight back up and back to more stomping. i respect those who can solo stomp, even vs a squad
Think i've been stomped on pretty hard by you a few times, I used to slay like you but then I took a CCP to the mouse.
Assault Dropship Pilot
Semi-Retired Closed Bittervet
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xavier zor
Abyss of Universe
2
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Posted - 2015.08.18 10:25:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:xavier zor wrote:Soldier Sorajord wrote:StoneSmasher Drugga wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:what i don't get is how these pubstars can run protoeverything and lose 5+ suits a match constantly. They might have 5 deaths, but usually just get needled so don't lose their suit is my guess. Exactly. Their 3 Pubstar buddies go and get a revenge kill, and lo and behold they all run a wiykromi needle, boom straight back up and back to more stomping. i respect those who can solo stomp, even vs a squad Think i've been stomped on pretty hard by you a few times, I used to slay like you but then I took a CCP to the mouse.
lol i tried KB/M. back when we had OP strafing i was a strafing mofo but couldn't aim as well as DS3
KB/M aint as easy as people make it out to be
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Varoth Drac
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.08.18 11:44:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:meta-locked matches aint happening with this low a playerbase and the countless exploits it offers. Not to mention how further off the 'mercenary fighting in Eve universe' idea the devs have strayed off already. Stomping mercs when no one on your team is doing jack **** is quite enjoyable IMO. Redlining them aint, so i use a roden sniper Meta lock or not, I would just like a system that encourages conflict in pub matches. Currently the only thing that encourages me to fight in proto gear vs enemies in proto, in pub matches, is a sense of pride. Just the desire to beat them or make them bleed. There's no risk / reward incentive.
I just think we would have more fun battles if there was more incentive to fight.
There, are three main ways to make isk in Dust. 1. Play pubs in cheap gear. 2. Stomp pubs in expensive gear. 3. PC (mainly legacy isk from back when it printed loadsa money).
None of these methods involve enjoyable pub matches, unless you use cheap gear and your opponents are also using cheap gear, or they are significantly worse than your team.
It would be nice to have an incentive to escalate my risk in a pub match to gain the chance of getting a reward when fighting against opponents that have invested a lot themselves. PC activity should pay well. However there should be better things to spend this isk on than lording it over peasants in pub matches. |
Omaarion27
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
25
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Posted - 2015.08.18 15:53:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:Omaarion27 wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:what i don't get is how these pubstars can run protoeverything and lose 5+ suits a match constantly. who loses 5 suits each match?? eh This is exactly the problem. In a well fought, interesting fight, you should lose 10 suits.
whats the problem , a challenging battle does not mean dying 24/7 nope it means it test your skills and capabilities that does not mean you have to die 10 times, dying 10 times and not getting a appropriate kills amount just means your helping your team less.
someone who dies alot is a drawback to the team the merc increases the chances of the team being cloned and hes spends more time out of the battle rather than in therefore not fighting e.g on average lets say spawn are ten seconds, if you die 10 times thats 100 seconds you spent out of the game that could have been spent more wisely.
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xavier zor
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Posted - 2015.08.19 01:58:00 -
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Omaarion27 wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:Omaarion27 wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:what i don't get is how these pubstars can run protoeverything and lose 5+ suits a match constantly. who loses 5 suits each match?? eh This is exactly the problem. In a well fought, interesting fight, you should lose 10 suits. whats the problem , a challenging battle does not mean dying 24/7 nope it means it test your skills and capabilities that does not mean you have to die 10 times, dying 10 times and not getting a appropriate kills amount just means your helping your team less. someone who dies alot is a drawback to the team the merc increases the chances of the team being cloned and hes spends more time out of the battle rather than in therefore not fighting e.g on average lets say spawn are ten seconds, if you die 10 times thats 100 seconds you spent out of the game that could have been spent more wisely. 07 xavier zor i made it to 4
nice nice...
I find a real challenge is winning....SOLO. Just winning in general can be difficult but when your that one assault clearing out a room of enemies for your team I get pride in that
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Leovarian L Lavitz
Vader's-Fist
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Posted - 2015.08.19 05:33:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:Omaarion27 wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:Omaarion27 wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:what i don't get is how these pubstars can run protoeverything and lose 5+ suits a match constantly. who loses 5 suits each match?? eh This is exactly the problem. In a well fought, interesting fight, you should lose 10 suits. whats the problem , a challenging battle does not mean dying 24/7 nope it means it test your skills and capabilities that does not mean you have to die 10 times, dying 10 times and not getting a appropriate kills amount just means your helping your team less. someone who dies alot is a drawback to the team the merc increases the chances of the team being cloned and hes spends more time out of the battle rather than in therefore not fighting e.g on average lets say spawn are ten seconds, if you die 10 times thats 100 seconds you spent out of the game that could have been spent more wisely. 07 xavier zor i made it to 4 nice nice... I find a real challenge is winning....SOLO. Just winning in general can be difficult but when your that one assault clearing out a room of enemies for your team I get pride in that Play to win! Victory, overwhelmingly crushing, hate mail inducing, should live under bridges for what you did to the enemies, victory! Play to win with everything at your disposal, squads, weapons, vehicles, eve pilots, orbital strikes, only thing that matters at the end of the day is that you used everything possible and achieved victory after victory. If you went 70/0 and lost the ******* match, you are a ******* scrub.
Play to win, every time.
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xavier zor
2
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Posted - 2015.08.19 07:46:00 -
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^
kingthunderbolt alt??
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Leovarian L Lavitz
Vader's-Fist
1
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Posted - 2015.08.19 08:15:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:^ kingthunderbolt alt?? King thunder bolt could never defeat regnum in a one v one like I have
Youtube: Dust 514 - You should Have Worn Proto
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xavier zor
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Posted - 2015.08.19 10:04:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:xavier zor wrote:^ kingthunderbolt alt?? King thunder bolt could never defeat regnum in a one v one like I have
lol and you expect who to believe that ****??
reg would flog your as 10 times over
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Leovarian L Lavitz
Vader's-Fist
1
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Posted - 2015.08.19 10:25:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:xavier zor wrote:^ kingthunderbolt alt?? King thunder bolt could never defeat regnum in a one v one like I have lol and you expect who to believe that ****?? reg would flog your as 10 times over Ahah aha, tell him to stop running in terror every time we fought so we can find out xD
Youtube: Dust 514 - You should Have Worn Proto
One V One Emperor
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xavier zor
2
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Posted - 2015.08.19 10:25:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:xavier zor wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:xavier zor wrote:^ kingthunderbolt alt?? King thunder bolt could never defeat regnum in a one v one like I have lol and you expect who to believe that ****?? reg would flog your as 10 times over Ahah aha, tell him to stop running in terror every time we fought so we can find out xD
haha just based on that video i know he could beat you with 1 hand
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Leovarian L Lavitz
Vader's-Fist
1
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Posted - 2015.08.19 10:36:00 -
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He's been running since closed beta, I doubt he going to change any time soon. I've been wupping his butt since mordus, he can say or not say whatever he wants, but that is the truth.
You can believe and say whatever your perception is, however, they and you weren't there, he and I were.
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4lbert Wesker
Standby Retaliation
408
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Posted - 2015.08.19 10:44:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:I thought it said pornstar... I need glasses
Or you watch too much ****
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jane stalin
free dropships for newbs
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Posted - 2015.08.19 11:01:00 -
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4lbert Wesker wrote:Louis Domi wrote:I thought it said pornstar... I need glasses Or you watch too much ****
If there are consequences for watching to much **** were all screwed, and Not in the sexy porno way. |
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