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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.08.20 20:10:00 -
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1. Dropships need to be able to land
2. Dropships need to be able to drop off players.
3. Dropships needs to be able to pick up players mid fire fight
4. Dropships needs to be able to take picked up soldiers and move them to the next hot spot.
5. Dropships still needs to be able to be shot down
6. Players would rather get/spawn in a dropship than hoof it on foot.
Anything else is cheese and whistles and not needed.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.08.20 22:05:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:1. Dropships need to be able to land
2. Dropships need to be able to drop off players.
3. Dropships needs to be able to pick up players mid fire fight
4. Dropships needs to be able to take picked up soldiers and move them to the next hot spot.
5. Dropships still needs to be able to be shot down
6. Players would rather get/spawn in a dropship than hoof it on foot.
Anything else is cheese and whistles and not needed. If you think this game has ANY need for a dropship doing nothing but taxi'ing people, then you play FAR less than I already assumed you do. The fact that you say you want them to be glorified taxis, but you don't want them to have a survivability buff (dropships still need to be able to be shot down) means that you not only don't understand the intricacies of actually ******* surviving in a dropship, you have no ******* idea what role they should fulfill within this partially completed game, and are a literal cancer on the game. Hey guys, we totally want you to fly into enemy territory surrounded by AV to get your troops from A, 10 feet over to B. We know you're an assault craft with a personal weapon designed to kill troops, but really just take those guys 10 feet over there. And since we as AV can't collectively scratch our own assholes without self guided missiles, we're not actually going to give you much of a buff because then you might actually survive while doing nothing but moving people 10 feet to the left. And if we did give you that health, and then you proceeded to use skill to outwit halfwit AV players such as many on the CPM itself, we will then cry so ******* hard you'll be left as the crippled LAV of the sky.
This only highlights your ignorance to the issues at hand then.
I don't want an effing gunship I want a amarr damned dropship.
Dropship first everything else is bells and whistles.
Mind you have I have played a version of dust where dropships by themselves where a massive power multiplier and I am not talking about Judge's ADS.
The exhilarating feeling of dropping a whole squad on folks into the hotspots and providing CAS and calling out targets being their UAV spotlighting enemies. Parking in front of the enemy line of fire to provide cover for escape and chasing tanks down into cover. Those days long gone. True that model of dropship had 2 problems one was that swarms never can hit them second being they didn't take to much damage in situations where they should have.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.08.20 23:14:00 -
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Really? Never been a relevant dropship pilot?
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=200311#post200311
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.08.20 23:18:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Stating the obvious in a long winded thread doesn't make you a good pilot.... I simply mean that you've never been a threat in game, at least not in the air.
How many sagaris have you blown up with a tech 1 dropship?
How many of them where zitros?
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.08.20 23:23:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Stating the obvious in a long winded thread doesn't make you a good pilot.... I simply mean that you've never been a threat in game, at least not in the air. How many sagaris have you blown up with a tech 1 dropship? How many of them where zitros? Well the fact that you have a tally of the tanks you've killed kind of highlights my point. I barely even play this game anymore and yet I've still long since lost count of the number of tanks, dropships, and lavs I've killed. I've also never taken the time to find out who I kill, because red is dead and who it is is irrelevant. Your views that you present here are simply disconnected from the reality of what DUST actually IS, and you're attempting to reinforce an ideology that has no place in the actual reality of the game.
You don't know zitro then. Get out.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.08.20 23:28:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:You don't know zitro then. Get out. If the gravitational pull of your ignorance wasn't so strong, I would.
Because I played in an era where dropships did exactly what they where labeled to do; you haven't.
That's the difference between you and I.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.08.20 23:31:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:You don't know zitro then. Get out. If the gravitational pull of your ignorance wasn't so strong, I would. Because I played in an era where dropships did exactly what they where labeled to do; you haven't. That's the difference between you and I. Well considering I've been here since Mordu's Trials, and have flown religiously since.... Congrats, you officially have no ******* clue what you're talking about!! *throws confetti* I was one of the FIRST people to max Prometheus the moment they were introduced, don't ******* try to tell me I've never tried to be the ******* sky taxi.
and failed.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.08.20 23:37:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:and failed. Yea, like EVERY Logi ship (particularly armor, as the Caldari version had a slightly higher success rate), hence why they were axed. You are so ******* removed from reality it's amazing you can even physically respond to threads.
because like I said I have successfully played the flying bus before.
You never got to enjoy that experience.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.08.20 23:54:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:and failed. Yea, like EVERY Logi ship (particularly armor, as the Caldari version had a slightly higher success rate), hence why they were axed. You are so ******* removed from reality it's amazing you can even physically respond to threads. because like I said I have successfully played the flying bus before. You never got to enjoy that experience. You are such a fail troll. Good day troll.
He mad because he never got to play in the glory of the magic flying bus.
He probably doesn't know what sumo'ing means.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.08.21 16:22:00 -
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Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:Iron wolf saber can you please stop posting in my thread. your posts are obnoxious and misinformed
Problem is I keep seeing suggestions that only further warrents DS deletion not salvation.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.08.21 17:08:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I should have let the ADS die in a fire during the vehicle turnover No sarcasm here. Your whole post literally made my stomach turn. But this little beauty. I feel that this mentality right here, the feeling that you're anything other than a voice for "us", is fundamentally what is wrong with having a CPM in the first place. Letting an underfunded, under developed game be influenced so heavily by people with no relevant experience or expertise, is EXACTLY why CCP Hilmar goes quiet or hits the PR spiel whenever DUST is mentioned. It's a joke. You're a joke. And just to entertain your idiocy because I have time: ADS is gone. Done. Logistics ships are gone. Done. All that remains, is a badass basic ship. We'll even say you guys talked extra hard from your house in your bathrobe, and we have PRO DS. *YEEEAAAAHHHH!!!* Alright, life is good. Turrets are working great, I've got some really skilled gunners in their plated heavy suits. All that talking even magically fixed the turret bugs that have plagued DS since the start. Good job guys. We're survivable, we're poopin out people....aannnddd....waaaiiittt for iiiitttttt..... Our gunners are tearing **** UP. We're constantly communicating, the pilot calling out new targets as they show up, lighting them up with the scanner. The squad leader in the gun is racking up points like crazy as each person dies, more points going towards the orbitals as more squadies spawn in. Singular AV is easily picked off by your superior teamwork, skill, and durability. Even packs of AV find you difficult to pin down as you soar by, hardeners up and afterburner roaring. You laugh at even concentrated railgun fire, knowing that with your superior skill and high durability in your window of attack / retreat, you can out maneuver all but surprise attacks, which you diligently attempt to mitigate through watching your flight lanes. You are a terror of the sky, difficult to dislodge, racking up points like crazy, turning objectives and stacking up the red bodies. And then AV cries. And cries. And rages. And DS gets the axe. And the whole ******* circle continues. But I don't blame you for glossing over what would happen when skilled pilots fly them, since you've never been exposed to that environment first hand
Scanners didn't exist back then :P
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