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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.08.16 15:04:00 -
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At this point I'd rather CCP didn't even touch it. They're horrible and no fun to fly anymore against any serious competition, but every time CCP tries to "fix" them they just get worse and worse. Of course we need tiers but AV has gotten comfortable having easy kills and the AV crowd FAR surpasses our own.
Just leave us alone.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.08.16 15:14:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:At this point I'd rather CCP didn't even touch it. They're horrible and no fun to fly anymore against any serious competition, but every time CCP tries to "fix" them they just get worse and worse. Of course we need tiers but AV has gotten comfortable having easy kills and the AV crowd FAR surpasses our own.
Just leave us alone. Little defeatist, don't you think?
Not at all. CCP has a track record, and they've taught me to pay attention to that in a developer.
Seriously, just tweak other ****. Leave dropships alone. We'll deal with it. I don't care if I don't speak for you, I'm speaking for you.
Don't even bother at this point.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.08.17 05:58:00 -
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Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:Have in mind that they used to be OP and that it wasn't a normal thing to do what you used to do with an ADS.
ADS didn't got overnerfed, they are "normal" now. Maybe they need some tweaks, but not a big buff of any kind. They weren't op. I stopped reading after that. It's like saying that tank were fine in 1.7 or cal logis from 1.1 -> 1.6 . Don't say such stupid things please. its true tho. they were never op. furthermore back then mine would cost 1.5 mil per ship and thats before missions and trading and selling. you are ill informed and have lost the priviledge to have an opinion on this matter
Back then was the good old days of every ******* railgun fit imaginable one or two shot you.
There was no PLC and swarms were terribad though, so since forge takes skill to excel at, it's no wonder the general consensus was that ds was op.
Also 50% RoF made farming infantry easy, and the pilot stacking bug made it and av obscene (the bug still exists, it's just neutered cuz they didn't give us a useful AV bonus to compensate such as a direct damage buff per level)
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.08.20 15:51:00 -
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Half finished projects are frustrating.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.08.20 20:34:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:1. Dropships need to be able to land
2. Dropships need to be able to drop off players.
3. Dropships needs to be able to pick up players mid fire fight
4. Dropships needs to be able to take picked up soldiers and move them to the next hot spot.
5. Dropships still needs to be able to be shot down
6. Players would rather get/spawn in a dropship than hoof it on foot.
Anything else is cheese and whistles and not needed.
If you think this game has ANY need for a dropship doing nothing but taxi'ing people, then you play FAR less than I already assumed you do.
The fact that you say you want them to be glorified taxis, but you don't want them to have a survivability buff (dropships still need to be able to be shot down) means that you not only don't understand the intricacies of actually ******* surviving in a dropship, you have no ******* idea what role they should fulfill within this partially completed game, and are a literal cancer on the game.
Hey guys, we totally want you to fly into enemy territory surrounded by AV to get your troops from A, 10 feet over to B. We know you're an assault craft with a personal weapon designed to kill troops, but really just take those guys 10 feet over there. And since we as AV can't collectively scratch our own assholes without self guided missiles, we're not actually going to give you much of a buff because then you might actually survive while doing nothing but moving people 10 feet to the left.
And if we did give you that health, and then you proceeded to use skill to outwit halfwit AV players such as many on the CPM itself, we will then cry so ******* hard you'll be left as the crippled LAV of the sky.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.08.20 22:22:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
This only highlights your ignorance to the issues at hand then.
I don't want an effing gunship I want a amarr damned dropship.
Dropship first everything else is bells and whistles.
Mind you have I have played a version of dust where dropships by themselves where a massive power multiplier and I am not talking about Judge's ADS.
The exhilarating feeling of dropping a whole squad on folks into the hotspots and providing CAS and calling out targets being their UAV spotlighting enemies. Parking in front of the enemy line of fire to provide cover for escape and chasing tanks down into cover. Those days long gone. True that model of dropship had 2 problems one was that swarms never can hit them second being they didn't take to much damage in situations where they should have.
"I don't want an effing gunship" Wow, I'm really happy the Assault Dropship wasn't designed specifically to be this, what with it's front mounted gun, reduced passenger capacity, and original (and current if not majorly neutered) bonus to BEING AN EFFING GUNSHIP
Secondly, you mention wanting an Amarr Dropship. And you call ME ignorant of the issues at hand.
You want a dropship yet you refuse to acknowledge that CCP has FAILED to deliver a game in which the need for a drop oriented ship is required. Case in point, 3 of the 4 game modes literally have no need for a drop focused role (Ambush, Acquisition, Domination), and many of the Skirmish maps are not conducive to a drop focused craft as the points are tightly packed together. In the maps that have 5 points and achieve the minimum size required to a make a drop focused ship desirable, 3 of the 5 objectives are crammed close together, in line of fire of EVERYTHING, and are often indoors where a dropship can't even get to.
This doesn't even touch on the fact that we DID have a team, drop focused dropship, that was removed for "rebalancing" only to never be seen again.
Dude. Seriously. Stop drinking the ******* cool aid.
I now have a real good idea of why Judge rage quit your little circle jerk of a group.
Also, you have never once in the history of this game been a relevant DS pilot. Just putting that out there.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.08.20 23:16:00 -
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Stating the obvious in a long winded thread doesn't make you a good pilot....
I simply mean that you've never been a threat in game, at least not in the air.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.08.20 23:22:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Stating the obvious in a long winded thread doesn't make you a good pilot.... I simply mean that you've never been a threat in game, at least not in the air. How many sagaris have you blown up with a tech 1 dropship? How many of them where zitros?
Well the fact that you have a tally of the tanks you've killed kind of highlights my point. I barely even play this game anymore and yet I've still long since lost count of the number of tanks, dropships, and lavs I've killed. I've also never taken the time to find out who I kill, because red is dead and who it is is irrelevant.
Your views that you present here are simply disconnected from the reality of what DUST actually IS, and you're attempting to reinforce an ideology that has no place in the actual reality of the game.
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Swarms everywhere.
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Posted - 2015.08.20 23:24:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:You don't know zitro then. Get out.
If the gravitational pull of your ignorance wasn't so strong, I would.
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Swarms everywhere.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.08.20 23:29:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:You don't know zitro then. Get out. If the gravitational pull of your ignorance wasn't so strong, I would. Because I played in an era where dropships did exactly what they where labeled to do; you haven't. That's the difference between you and I.
Well considering I've been here since Mordu's Trials, and have flown religiously since....
Congrats, you officially have no ******* clue what you're talking about!!
*throws confetti*
I was one of the FIRST people to max Prometheus the moment they were introduced, don't ******* try to tell me I've never tried to be the ******* sky taxi.
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Swarms everywhere.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.08.20 23:33:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:and failed.
Yea, like EVERY Logi ship (particularly armor, as the Caldari version had a slightly higher success rate), hence why they were axed.
You are so ******* removed from reality it's amazing you can even physically respond to threads.
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Swarms everywhere.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.08.20 23:38:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:and failed. Yea, like EVERY Logi ship (particularly armor, as the Caldari version had a slightly higher success rate), hence why they were axed. You are so ******* removed from reality it's amazing you can even physically respond to threads. because like I said I have successfully played the flying bus before. You never got to enjoy that experience.
You are such a fail troll.
Good day troll.
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Swarms everywhere.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.08.21 01:13:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:what if u could spin the camera/front turret seperately from the ship.
i think this would be a major buff for ads.
Do you mean a proper first person cam, like when going into first person your camera moves in the direction of your turret? Unlike now where it's stuck straight forward?
About a year ago CCP Logibro in a random thread said he would look into it, after over a year of asking for it. That was the last we heard of it.
It would be a really good offensive buff though, and could even make front mounted rails and blasters potentially appealing anti infantry weapons.
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Swarms everywhere.
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Posted - 2015.08.21 16:53:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I should have let the ADS die in a fire during the vehicle turnover
No sarcasm here. Your whole post literally made my stomach turn.
But this little beauty.
I feel that this mentality right here, the feeling that you're anything other than a voice for "us", is fundamentally what is wrong with having a CPM in the first place.
Letting an underfunded, under developed game be influenced so heavily by people with no relevant experience or expertise, is EXACTLY why CCP Hilmar goes quiet or hits the PR spiel whenever DUST is mentioned. It's a joke.
You're a joke.
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Swarms everywhere.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.08.21 17:10:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Scanners didn't exist back then :P
So removing ADS would have altered the flow of time so that scanners wouldn't have been introduced?
Interesting. Please, go on, masterful time lord.
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Swarms everywhere.
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