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Louis Domi
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Posted - 2015.08.16 00:15:00 -
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Only I went down. Some Old bull ship
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.08.16 00:20:00 -
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Were they armor and you shields, or both the same? Either way the collision damage in this game is borked.
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Sicerly Yaw
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Posted - 2015.08.16 00:23:00 -
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shields are known for being weaker then armor in general terms but especially when it comes to collision, if you want to test this out use an amarr medium frame and a caldari medium frame
jump off of a high structure regular building height should be enough, with the shiled suit simply jump off and see how much damge you took, for the armor suit hold a flux till it detonates then jump and calculate the difference between the damge you took to armor and the damge you took to shields
as for what you said about being rammed with a DS, armor DS will always win a ramming contest at least in most cases with a few exceptions if you know how to deal with it
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Louis Domi
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Posted - 2015.08.16 00:24:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:shields are known for being weaker then armor in general terms but especially when it comes to collision, if you want to test this out use an amarr medium frame and a caldari medium frame
jump off of a high structure regular building height should be enough, with the shiled suit simply jump off and see how much damge you took, for the armor suit hold a flux till it detonates then jump and calculate the difference between the damge you took to armor and the damge you took to shields
as for what you said about being rammed with a DS, armor DS will always win a ramming contest at least in most cases with a few exceptions if you know how to deal with it
I was actually in an armor Ds... I had a couple in inventory and decided to try em out... Got rammed other DS survived...
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Mikel Arias
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Posted - 2015.08.16 00:31:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:Sicerly Yaw wrote:shields are known for being weaker then armor in general terms but especially when it comes to collision, if you want to test this out use an amarr medium frame and a caldari medium frame
jump off of a high structure regular building height should be enough, with the shiled suit simply jump off and see how much damge you took, for the armor suit hold a flux till it detonates then jump and calculate the difference between the damge you took to armor and the damge you took to shields
as for what you said about being rammed with a DS, armor DS will always win a ramming contest at least in most cases with a few exceptions if you know how to deal with it I was actually in an armor Ds... I had a couple in inventory and decided to try em out... Got rammed other DS survived...
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Sadly, even if this is low when it comes to dropships fighting, it is still a valid tactic since it can be done. Still, I wish people wouldnt do this just because they are loosing the fight. |
Louis Domi
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Posted - 2015.08.16 00:44:00 -
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Mikel Arias wrote:Louis Domi wrote:Sicerly Yaw wrote:shields are known for being weaker then armor in general terms but especially when it comes to collision, if you want to test this out use an amarr medium frame and a caldari medium frame
jump off of a high structure regular building height should be enough, with the shiled suit simply jump off and see how much damge you took, for the armor suit hold a flux till it detonates then jump and calculate the difference between the damge you took to armor and the damge you took to shields
as for what you said about being rammed with a DS, armor DS will always win a ramming contest at least in most cases with a few exceptions if you know how to deal with it I was actually in an armor Ds... I had a couple in inventory and decided to try em out... Got rammed other DS survived... http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQJEM9bMUbsW8GKRmMOR9k5SYCGwHpDnG1UKaz8mrdP5V40d91mZQSadly, even if this is low when it comes to dropships fighting, it is still a valid tactic since it can be done. Still, I wish people wouldnt do this just because they are loosing the fight.
I have a feeling this guy was the earlier ADS I was fighting, I was about to kill him, but he withdrew(He ran away like a little ***** after initiating the fight in the first place, I just kept wailing on him with my Missiles) I was distracted killing his team when all of a sudden boom I get rammed by a DS and I go down hard. Died with my ship... But its a serious pain when a mlt can do this, not even showing up on my mini map until he hit me.
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Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2015.08.16 02:18:00 -
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You've really gotta have a strong spidey sense and eyes in the back of your head to avoid getting rammed while dropshiping, as long as you see them coming you'll generally be fine.
On the flipside there are times I can morally justify ramming someone, sometimes its unavoidable in a dogfight, both pilots get so absorbed in shooting each other and staying on top of the target that it just ends up happening. And then theres what i call fancy fliers, who will flop and swing about spending 90% of their time being fancy instead of fighting, then run away the moment they take more than a few shots in a row. Those pilots I will ram with glee, because anyone that will only shoot at you while your back is turned is so risk adverse that they need to be punished harshly.
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Louis Domi
Louis Domi's Super Happy Fun Time
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Posted - 2015.08.16 02:32:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:You've really gotta have a strong spidey sense and eyes in the back of your head to avoid getting rammed while dropshiping, as long as you see them coming you'll generally be fine.
On the flipside there are times I can morally justify ramming someone, sometimes its unavoidable in a dogfight, both pilots get so absorbed in shooting each other and staying on top of the target that it just ends up happening. And then theres what i call fancy fliers, who will flop and swing about spending 90% of their time being fancy instead of fighting, then run away the moment they take more than a few shots in a row. Those pilots I will ram with glee, because anyone that will only shoot at you while your back is turned is so risk adverse that they need to be punished harshly.
The only time to back down from a fight is to go back to your supply depot to get more ammo, also pilots aren't really prone to accidentally ramming each other...
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.08.16 03:07:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:You've really gotta have a strong spidey sense and eyes in the back of your head to avoid getting rammed while dropshiping, as long as you see them coming you'll generally be fine.
On the flipside there are times I can morally justify ramming someone, sometimes its unavoidable in a dogfight, both pilots get so absorbed in shooting each other and staying on top of the target that it just ends up happening. And then theres what i call fancy fliers, who will flop and swing about spending 90% of their time being fancy instead of fighting, then run away the moment they take more than a few shots in a row. Those pilots I will ram with glee, because anyone that will only shoot at you while your back is turned is so risk adverse that they need to be punished harshly. The only time to back down from a fight is to go back to your supply depot to get more ammo, also pilots aren't really prone to accidentally ramming each other...
Sounds like you haven't gotten into too many intense dogfights if you haven't accidentally bumped against the other pilot. Also the other time to back down is anytime you're using missiles and they're using rails, because if they're even half as good as you they're gonna win that fight every single time.
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Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2015.08.16 03:10:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:You've really gotta have a strong spidey sense and eyes in the back of your head to avoid getting rammed while dropshiping, as long as you see them coming you'll generally be fine.
On the flipside there are times I can morally justify ramming someone, sometimes its unavoidable in a dogfight, both pilots get so absorbed in shooting each other and staying on top of the target that it just ends up happening. And then theres what i call fancy fliers, who will flop and swing about spending 90% of their time being fancy instead of fighting, then run away the moment they take more than a few shots in a row. Those pilots I will ram with glee, because anyone that will only shoot at you while your back is turned is so risk adverse that they need to be punished harshly. The only time to back down from a fight is to go back to your supply depot to get more ammo, also pilots aren't really prone to accidentally ramming each other...
My vast experience in ADS dogfighting begs to differ.
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Leovarian L Lavitz
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Posted - 2015.08.16 07:45:00 -
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I prefer shooting down dropships from the comfort of my Lav
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Louis Domi
Louis Domi's Super Happy Fun Time
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Posted - 2015.08.16 14:43:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Louis Domi wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:You've really gotta have a strong spidey sense and eyes in the back of your head to avoid getting rammed while dropshiping, as long as you see them coming you'll generally be fine.
On the flipside there are times I can morally justify ramming someone, sometimes its unavoidable in a dogfight, both pilots get so absorbed in shooting each other and staying on top of the target that it just ends up happening. And then theres what i call fancy fliers, who will flop and swing about spending 90% of their time being fancy instead of fighting, then run away the moment they take more than a few shots in a row. Those pilots I will ram with glee, because anyone that will only shoot at you while your back is turned is so risk adverse that they need to be punished harshly. The only time to back down from a fight is to go back to your supply depot to get more ammo, also pilots aren't really prone to accidentally ramming each other... My vast experience in ADS dogfighting begs to differ.
Really? I've been in a couple and the only ones that the ADSer rammed me was pretty much when they were about to die, they put those afterburners and just fly towards me..
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Louis Domi
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Posted - 2015.08.16 14:44:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:I prefer shooting down dropships from the comfort of my Lav
I have a feeling you took me out before... You might be the reason why every LAV I see on the field I take out before it even drops out of the RDV...
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Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2015.08.16 14:53:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:I prefer shooting down dropships from the comfort of my Lav
Personally i like to shoot lav drivers out of their moving vehicles :)
Dropship LAV chase scenes are fun
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Louis Domi
Louis Domi's Super Happy Fun Time
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Posted - 2015.08.16 14:56:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:I prefer shooting down dropships from the comfort of my Lav Personally i like to shoot lav drivers out of their moving vehicles :) Dropship LAV chase scenes are fun
Like something out of a video game/Movie. If only small blasters on ADS' actually worked, we could have those helicopter gunner scenes and the lav just barely dodging it. Then get like a background explosion like "BWAAAAHHH!"
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Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2015.08.16 15:59:00 -
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In the meantime though you'll learn to see the dropship body language, when someone is gunna ram you they tend to telegraph the intent, dodge em, reload as you come about and nail them. If you aren't already I highly suggest leveling up the incubus and getting into rails, great for slaying ADS pilots who can only use missiles.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.08.16 16:01:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:
Really? I've been in a couple and the only ones that the ADSer rammed me was pretty much when they were about to die, they put those afterburners and just fly towards me..
That's actually one of the better evasive maneuvers if you can judge their trajectory cuz if you can move up on them fast but just miss them you'll over shoot them, gain the height advantage, and you'll be out of their LoS long enough for a full repair in most cases. But that same maneuver can easily wind up with both ships exploding.
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Louis Domi
Louis Domi's Super Happy Fun Time
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Posted - 2015.08.16 16:03:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Louis Domi wrote:
Really? I've been in a couple and the only ones that the ADSer rammed me was pretty much when they were about to die, they put those afterburners and just fly towards me..
That's actually one of the better evasive maneuvers if you can judge their trajectory cuz if you can move up on them fast but just miss them you'll over shoot them, gain the height advantage, and you'll be out of their LoS long enough for a full repair in most cases. But that same maneuver can easily wind up with both ships exploding.
Evasive maneuver? I do nothing but barrel rolls, backflips, and aerobatics. This works better and doesn't result in accidental rams.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.08.16 16:06:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Louis Domi wrote:
Really? I've been in a couple and the only ones that the ADSer rammed me was pretty much when they were about to die, they put those afterburners and just fly towards me..
That's actually one of the better evasive maneuvers if you can judge their trajectory cuz if you can move up on them fast but just miss them you'll over shoot them, gain the height advantage, and you'll be out of their LoS long enough for a full repair in most cases. But that same maneuver can easily wind up with both ships exploding. Evasive maneuver? I do nothing but barrel rolls, backflips, and aerobatics. This works better and doesn't result in accidental rams.
I love pilots like you cuz you're very easy to track with my railgun :3
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Louis Domi
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Posted - 2015.08.16 16:11:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Louis Domi wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Louis Domi wrote:
Really? I've been in a couple and the only ones that the ADSer rammed me was pretty much when they were about to die, they put those afterburners and just fly towards me..
That's actually one of the better evasive maneuvers if you can judge their trajectory cuz if you can move up on them fast but just miss them you'll over shoot them, gain the height advantage, and you'll be out of their LoS long enough for a full repair in most cases. But that same maneuver can easily wind up with both ships exploding. Evasive maneuver? I do nothing but barrel rolls, backflips, and aerobatics. This works better and doesn't result in accidental rams. I love pilots like you cuz you're very easy to track with my railgun :3
Almost 100% win rate in Dogfights. Only losses was when an ADS had extra gunners and another time when I ran out of ammo in the middle of a fight
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.08.16 16:17:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:
Almost 100% win rate in Dogfights. Only losses was when an ADS had extra gunners and another time when I ran out of ammo in the middle of a fight
Well keep at it :3 Should I ever see you I'll show you why those evasive maneuvers aren't as good as they seem :3
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Louis Domi
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Posted - 2015.08.16 16:21:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Louis Domi wrote:
Almost 100% win rate in Dogfights. Only losses was when an ADS had extra gunners and another time when I ran out of ammo in the middle of a fight
Well keep at it :3 Should I ever see you I'll show you why those evasive maneuvers aren't as good as they seem :3
It would be a fine challenge Sir! I shall see you one day one the battlefield and we shall do battle! Huzzah my friend Huzzah!
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Louis Domi
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Posted - 2015.08.16 20:39:00 -
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Just got rammed again by a damn Incubus... ****, does nobody have class?
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Genral69 death
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Posted - 2015.08.16 21:03:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:Sicerly Yaw wrote:shields are known for being weaker then armor in general terms but especially when it comes to collision, if you want to test this out use an amarr medium frame and a caldari medium frame
jump off of a high structure regular building height should be enough, with the shiled suit simply jump off and see how much damge you took, for the armor suit hold a flux till it detonates then jump and calculate the difference between the damge you took to armor and the damge you took to shields
as for what you said about being rammed with a DS, armor DS will always win a ramming contest at least in most cases with a few exceptions if you know how to deal with it I was actually in an armor Ds... I had a couple in inventory and decided to try em out... Got rammed other DS survived...
ahh but strangely of 2 dropships ram each other face to face, neither of them take damage
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Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2015.08.17 01:02:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:Just got rammed again by a damn Incubus... ****, does nobody have class?
Are you flying a python? cause yeah those will get love bumps from any incubus they get too close to, thats not so much getting rammed, its more akin to getting sand kicked in your face in a duel its not very honourable but you use the tools you have available in a scrap.
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Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2015.08.17 01:07:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:Louis Domi wrote:Sicerly Yaw wrote:shields are known for being weaker then armor in general terms but especially when it comes to collision, if you want to test this out use an amarr medium frame and a caldari medium frame
jump off of a high structure regular building height should be enough, with the shiled suit simply jump off and see how much damge you took, for the armor suit hold a flux till it detonates then jump and calculate the difference between the damge you took to armor and the damge you took to shields
as for what you said about being rammed with a DS, armor DS will always win a ramming contest at least in most cases with a few exceptions if you know how to deal with it I was actually in an armor Ds... I had a couple in inventory and decided to try em out... Got rammed other DS survived... ahh but strangely of 2 dropships ram each other face to face, neither of them take damage
Its really unpredictable won't will and won't kill an ADS collision wise, I clipped a light pole the other day and flopped upside down onto a roof top, the momentum caused me to roll sideways off the side of the building and land on my landing gear on the road. Grinned thinking "more ass than class" hit the AB and boosted straight up, another dropship just happened to fly over me as I took off really fast, he survived and the impact did no damage to me, didn't get lucky again and the next building I hit killed me.
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Mejt0
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Posted - 2015.08.17 01:15:00 -
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You can aways fly past/above blue blaser/missile turret to scare the *%#* out of them.
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Louis Domi
Louis Domi's Super Happy Fun Time
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Posted - 2015.08.17 01:35:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Louis Domi wrote:Just got rammed again by a damn Incubus... ****, does nobody have class? Are you flying a python? cause yeah those will get love bumps from any incubus they get too close to, thats not so much getting rammed, its more akin to getting sand kicked in your face in a duel its not very honourable but you use the tools you have available in a scrap.
No I was winning a fight, he retreated. Moments later I get full forced rammed. People have no class
Also suicide anything should only be used by LAVs, or regular DS, but for a person who sunk a similar amount of sp into ADS, to use a cheap tactic. Very low class
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Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2015.08.17 03:33:00 -
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yeah, ppl like that are just sore losers, but its all about your own sense of morality i guess, I hate ADS pilots that refuse to fight another ADS, if they run from me and think they can ignore me, i'll ram the ****ers from the sky.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
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Posted - 2015.08.17 03:36:00 -
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Pop a hardener on a Gal ship and no problems.
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Posted - 2015.08.17 06:17:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Pop a hardener on a Gal ship and no problems.
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Clearly you don't engage strong AV if you think a single hardener = no problems lmfao. You're going to spend a large amount of time at flight ceiling or the edges of the battle waiting to come off of cooldown, and even during your cycle you can easily be alpha'd if you do anything but immediately run. Double hardener allows you to eat a couple shots before having to run, but you're a paper airplane covered in gas when the hardener isn't active, and now that hardeners take a few seconds to activate, that's very bad vs invisible swarms.
So if you never really engage the enemy and hang out way up in the sky the entire match, then yes, you might have some decent suitability. If you actually try to get down and put in some work though, you're going to find your window shorter than it seems and your downtime longer than you expect.
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