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Angel Icarus
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.08.15 03:13:00 -
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ok i cannot be the only one who remembers a time when both times would stop at nothing to win right? i remember when this was a lot more frequent, lets take the bridge map (forgive me for not knowing the name) with the turtle backs at each ends of the birdge, i would remember ALL players (heavies, logies, assaults, whatever) fulfilling their rolls and just going for or defending the point, then the OB would come soon to knock off whatever team had most of the bridge and the opposing team had a chance to rush the place (even tho they would sometimes be met with an OB themselves ^.^)
THOSE kinds of matches were the BEST everyone grinding and fighting for control, all the OBs somtimes all coming down at once! i loved it!
but nowadays i rarely see that kind of drive on BOTH teams. Say one "team" (i use this term lightly considering a "team" nowadays is somehwere around like 6 players sometimes -.- NO WHERE NEAR THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF PLAYERS THAT SHOULD BE ON THE ******* POINT) got to the point and was holding it for like 5 minutes or so, once the other team rushed them and took them off the point most, NOWADAYS i see teams straight up giving up despite having the advantage and no logical reason to give up (which really pisses me off)
now im not saying that everyone is like this, there are still alot of players that push no matter the odds, what im saying is there are alot of mercs out there that are not doing as much as they can, like being at the actual ******* point.
and im not asking for anything ccp, literally anything, im just complaining about the pussies out there.
and b4 u guys start giving valid counter arguments as to why this is so or why im wrong, let me just say yes i know there are some who are unable to go full lion pounce on players maybe cuz of money or skills, or maybe... idk **** it i know people are gonna disagree with me whatever.
**** it im done. |
Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2015.08.15 03:19:00 -
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How'd escaping my Island go, Icarus?
Tried a bit too hard, hmmm? Perhaps if you had a bit less drive like your fellow DUST bunnies, you'd be less seemingly agitated.
I am a minotaur.
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xavier zor
Abyss of Universe
2
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Posted - 2015.08.15 03:22:00 -
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good, go quit. no one likes a quitter
Zor's double ISK service
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VAHZZ
Vader's-Fist
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Posted - 2015.08.15 03:27:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:good, go quit. no one likes a quitter
This made me laugh.
Director of Vader's Fist
I survived Survivor
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Sgt Kirk
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
11
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Posted - 2015.08.15 03:30:00 -
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Actually, as far as I can remember there have been redline matches.
In line Harvest we used to be able to call vehicles on top of the two Garage type structures facing the enemy ground spawn when you were the attacker. HAV with a Rail turret on top of a building? Good luck coming back from this stop bub.
Or in the Bowl map where you used to be able to actually shoot a missile turret installation INTO THE ENEMY REDLINE from your redline.
Oh, that was great.
You know, I really loved that map, so broken, so fun. Can we bring them back please? We just need more maps, hell, I'll take them even if they give unfair advantages, playing DUST you get used to fighting uphill battles. It makes winning that much sweeter.
Wait what am I talking about?
Sgt Kirk's Propaganda Youtube Channel
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Larkson Crazy Eye
WarRavens
205
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Posted - 2015.08.15 03:30:00 -
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Well there a couple reasons really. First off few rewards for actually winning vs just earning WP and getting kills. But I think one of the major changes that hurts objective gameplay are the daily missions. After all getting stupid things like 20 hacks, objective hacks, destroying installations etc hardly good for working like a team. After all only the first guy who hacks an objective gets any credit, and if you need multiple hacks it's better if you don't defend it so the enemy can hack it and you can hack it back.
The worst obviously are vehicle kill assist however. Unless you got a buddy with a tank you can ride around in most people jump in random blue berry tanks and just hope they go near the action and have decent small turrets.
Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician: "Everybody but me--CHARGE!"
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Artemis Hyde
Vader's-Fist
48
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Posted - 2015.08.15 04:53:00 -
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this is why we need to be able to pick where you fight instead of the current system so we can get teams of people who want to fight against each other full teams versus full teams
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
1
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Posted - 2015.08.15 04:59:00 -
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The description says I can download the game. Doesn't say anything about having to care. I like how the pixels light up. I like to watch the screen while I drink my beer.
MY CPM2 PLATFORM
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
3
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Posted - 2015.08.15 08:19:00 -
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FW is the place I am finding good battles and people who like to fight.
"Madness how we turned our common-ground into a battle-ground.." - Essa
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Thor Odinson42
Negative-Feedback
6
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Posted - 2015.08.15 08:36:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:FW is the place I am finding good battles and people who like to fight.
I haven't played in a few weeks, but the trend in FW was troubling. So much AFK. |
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2015.08.15 11:33:00 -
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Because apparently people don't play this game to have decent/good fights (in other words, have fun from Dust), they only play to farm virtual currency.
That's sad.
Loyal to The State
Official Caldari Commando User
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
3
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Posted - 2015.08.15 11:41:00 -
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Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:Well there a couple reasons really. First off few rewards for actually winning vs just earning WP and getting kills. But I think one of the major changes that hurts objective gameplay are the daily missions. After all getting stupid things like 20 hacks, objective hacks, destroying installations etc hardly good for working like a team. After all only the first guy who hacks an objective gets any credit, and if you need multiple hacks it's better if you don't defend it so the enemy can hack it and you can hack it back.
The worst obviously are vehicle kill assist however. Unless you got a buddy with a tank you can ride around in most people jump in random blue berry tanks and just hope they go near the action and have decent small turrets. and this right here folks is the problem with you new dudes. It ain't about rewards or special points or war barge components. All that stuff is fluff that CCP put in for the glue sniffers. For any fisrt person shooter its about winning and makeing your enemys that you dislike get REKT. Go hard or go play elders scroll where you can farm little shiny things to collect. PS War Ravens breeds spineless little farmers.
CBM
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Sgt Kirk
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
11
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Posted - 2015.08.15 12:42:00 -
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Cusetown, while harsh with words makes a point.
Rattati is deathly concerned with NPE but the ways we are going about it, is it encouraging them to become better or is it just throwing free stuff their way? The limited tieracide was however one of the good things that came out of it though, and I guess when the progression suits are actually correct that may help as well .
I just wanted battle academy extended by a lot and people with ridiculous amounts of WP consecutively getting kicked.
Sgt Kirk's Propaganda Youtube Channel
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axis alpha
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
825
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Posted - 2015.08.15 12:42:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Actually, as far as I can remember there have been redline matches.
In line Harvest we used to be able to call vehicles on top of the two Garage type structures facing the enemy ground spawn when you were the attacker. HAV with a Rail turret on top of a building? Good luck coming back from this stop bub.
Or in the Bowl map where you used to be able to actually shoot a missile turret installation INTO THE ENEMY REDLINE from your redline.
Oh, that was great.
You know, I really loved that map, so broken, so fun. Can we bring them back please? We just need more maps, hell, I'll take them even if they give unfair advantages, playing DUST you get used to fighting uphill battles. It makes winning that much sweeter.
Wait what am I talking about?
I remember my second match of playing dust.The whole game I was destroying lav after lav with railgun installation from the other side of the map into the enemy red line. This was when squads were pre formed and I happened to be squad lead and got an ob and I didn't even know it until some guy in local told me after the match. It was super fun back then.
I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
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Thor Odinson42
Negative-Feedback
6
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Posted - 2015.08.15 13:40:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:Well there a couple reasons really. First off few rewards for actually winning vs just earning WP and getting kills. But I think one of the major changes that hurts objective gameplay are the daily missions. After all getting stupid things like 20 hacks, objective hacks, destroying installations etc hardly good for working like a team. After all only the first guy who hacks an objective gets any credit, and if you need multiple hacks it's better if you don't defend it so the enemy can hack it and you can hack it back.
The worst obviously are vehicle kill assist however. Unless you got a buddy with a tank you can ride around in most people jump in random blue berry tanks and just hope they go near the action and have decent small turrets. and this right here folks is the problem with you new dudes. It ain't about rewards or special points or war barge components. All that stuff is fluff that CCP put in for the glue sniffers. For any fisrt person shooter its about winning and makeing your enemys that you dislike get REKT. Go hard or go play elders scroll where you can farm little shiny things to collect. PS War Ravens breeds spineless little farmers.
I think most of us old school vets must be video game outliers, because your description fits at least 80% of the playerbase. |
Thor Odinson42
Negative-Feedback
6
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Posted - 2015.08.15 13:42:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Because apparently people don't play this game to have decent/good fights (in other words, have fun from Dust), they only play to farm virtual currency.
That's sad.
I just wonder what they plan on doing with all the stuff. Do you think they have a certain volume of things they are going for and then they'll start using their R1 buttons? |
Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
2
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Posted - 2015.08.15 15:59:00 -
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Pepperidge farm remembers
Real CPM Platform
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DUST Fiend
17
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Posted - 2015.08.15 16:03:00 -
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Before, people expected this game to have a future and as such, fought hard. They figured honing their skills would be worthwhile and they could make a name for themselves. They assumed the abundant glitches and low frame rates would be fixed in due time, so they kept at it.
Then CCP all but abandoned DUST, allowing it to continuously slip further into decay, and now the majority of people who stick around only do so if they're stomping because this has become a feel good shooter for trolls.
I am a beautiful space manatee, flying through the sky with the greatest of ease
Swarms everywhere.
WoD 514
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Larkson Crazy Eye
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
208
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Posted - 2015.08.15 16:32:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:Well there a couple reasons really. First off few rewards for actually winning vs just earning WP and getting kills. But I think one of the major changes that hurts objective gameplay are the daily missions. After all getting stupid things like 20 hacks, objective hacks, destroying installations etc hardly good for working like a team. After all only the first guy who hacks an objective gets any credit, and if you need multiple hacks it's better if you don't defend it so the enemy can hack it and you can hack it back.
The worst obviously are vehicle kill assist however. Unless you got a buddy with a tank you can ride around in most people jump in random blue berry tanks and just hope they go near the action and have decent small turrets. and this right here folks is the problem with you new dudes. It ain't about rewards or special points or war barge components. All that stuff is fluff that CCP put in for the glue sniffers. For any fisrt person shooter its about winning and makeing your enemys that you dislike get REKT. Go hard or go play elders scroll where you can farm little shiny things to collect. PS War Ravens breeds spineless little farmers.
Lol okay whatever your smocking you might want to lay off. I'm hardly a new player and I'm glad your corp is getting it's but kicked by war ravens to have such a nice attitude towards us. As for the whole FPS is about winning, well lets be honest having skills, equipment and isk is how you win. Sure you might come out ahead against worthless scrubs that you play against in a frontline suit with zero SP, but to be completive your going to need every skill point, isk and bonus you can get.
Plus I'm sure your war barge is maxed out, you just seem like the kind of guy who spent $300 on day one to get it with arum. Though I'm sure you will deny it with colorful language.
Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician: "Everybody but me--CHARGE!"
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Onesimus Tarsus
Vader's-Fist
3
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Posted - 2015.08.15 16:57:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:good, go quit. no one likes a quitter
I will never stop quitting.
Ever!
I have ONE PC match to my credit. ONE.
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
3
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Posted - 2015.08.15 17:00:00 -
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Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:Well there a couple reasons really. First off few rewards for actually winning vs just earning WP and getting kills. But I think one of the major changes that hurts objective gameplay are the daily missions. After all getting stupid things like 20 hacks, objective hacks, destroying installations etc hardly good for working like a team. After all only the first guy who hacks an objective gets any credit, and if you need multiple hacks it's better if you don't defend it so the enemy can hack it and you can hack it back.
The worst obviously are vehicle kill assist however. Unless you got a buddy with a tank you can ride around in most people jump in random blue berry tanks and just hope they go near the action and have decent small turrets. and this right here folks is the problem with you new dudes. It ain't about rewards or special points or war barge components. All that stuff is fluff that CCP put in for the glue sniffers. For any fisrt person shooter its about winning and makeing your enemys that you dislike get REKT. Go hard or go play elders scroll where you can farm little shiny things to collect. PS War Ravens breeds spineless little farmers. Lol okay whatever your smocking you might want to lay off. I'm hardly a new player and I'm glad your corp is getting it's but kicked by war ravens to have such a nice attitude towards us. As for the whole FPS is about winning, well lets be honest having skills, equipment and isk is how you win. Sure you might come out ahead against worthless scrubs that you play against in a frontline suit with zero SP, but to be completive your going to need every skill point, isk and bonus you can get. Plus I'm sure your war barge is maxed out, you just seem like the kind of guy who spent $300 on day one to get it with arum. Though I'm sure you will deny it with colorful language. well with all that farming of isk and gear is a perfect example of why War Ravens got stomped so bad they had to hide on 8am timers. You and your corp mostly prove the reason why this game is boring. If you ain't trying to fight hard and win then why you wasting everyones time? There are two things that killed dust for many vets #1 CCP #2 spineless people that play a game and never try and win. So the answer to fixing the game is get better developers and get a surgeon to implant something in that empty space where your ballz used to be.
CBM
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Larkson Crazy Eye
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
208
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Posted - 2015.08.15 17:04:00 -
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Yup, not moving your case. I'm sorry that you got stomped so bad your lashing out at any war raven you see. I mean I haven't even killed you, let alone see you. Bye Bye now mist troll.
Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician: "Everybody but me--CHARGE!"
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Scotty AI MatchMaker
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
284
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Posted - 2015.08.15 17:22:00 -
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logic?, farming isk, farming gear, so basically if a corp did stockpile weapons equipment and resources thats why the would have a disadvantage?
We can not confirm nor denigh any activity involving our corpartion without the express permission of our C,E,O.
'The shadows betray you because they belong to me,'
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Angel Icarus
Dead Man's Game
16
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Posted - 2015.08.15 17:23:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Cusetown, while harsh with words makes a point.
Rattati is deathly concerned with NPE but the ways we are going about it, is it encouraging them to become better or is it just throwing free stuff their way? The limited tieracide was however one of the good things that came out of it though, and I guess when the progression suits are actually correct that may help as well .
I just wanted battle academy extended by a lot and people with ridiculous amounts of WP consecutively getting kicked.
yea i know lol i was letting off months of built off rage (all the battles of blues easily giving up) srry about that XD |
axis alpha
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
826
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Posted - 2015.08.15 17:49:00 -
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I like farming
Carrots.
I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
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Scotty AI MatchMaker
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
284
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Posted - 2015.08.16 11:39:00 -
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Ol macDonald had a farm, ck, ck.0
and on that farm he had some isk, ck, ck.0
with 10 keys here and 10 key there, strong box, strong box, everywhere a strong box
ol macDonald had a farm c,k ck.0
And on the farm he had a warbarge, ck, ck.0
and in his barge he had some bitz, ck, ck.0
with an beacon here and a beacon there, here a beak, there a beak every a beak bleep,
ol macDonald had a farm, ck. ck.0
'The shadows betray you because they belong to me,'
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