I too..dislike burnt steaks.

TLDR.

On the other hand I think hardeners have become too much of a must have, the few times i've bothered to try out a tank i've noticed that once the hardeners go on you might as well not bother shooting at another tank with a blaster, seems this way with a swarm launcher as well, unless your entire time is shooting at them at the same time.

I think I made a thread a while back, maybe, stating that hardeners should have a 60% res, a 45 sec active period and a 60 sec down time, BUT you could only have 1 hardener of either type. forcing the tank to leave before the hardener pops, or getting screwed up, but implement the passive hardeners and active armor reps, with a natural (Very low) HP regen / sec.

Got as far as " with hardeners invincible without hardeners weak......sounds like windows of opportunity to me .....good night .

With two hardeners active, a tank can be cut through with 6 AV grenades at maximum.

Now, should two people be able to destroy a double hardened tank in less than 4 seconds?

It is already suicide to not run a dual hardened maddie. So if you can't go with a maximum hardened tank and survive for more than 5 seconds, what is the point of tanks?

How about we make it so Hardeners give less resistance. Say 30% when active and 15% when not active. Also- this means reduce resource cost of Shield hardeners specifically.

Say shield tank has 2 hardeners. When both are inactive, they give a little less than 30% with stacking penalty and you have the ability to active them. Say you activate both, you get less than 60% resistance with stacking penalties.

This makes it so the tank isn't completely useless with hardeners activated and not as overpowered as now with 2 hardeners activated.

Lol "runs to the redline and waits to get hard again".

Just... Lol xD

Rattati has only tried to make dust less and less like EVE since he took control.

Jesus, you don't even know why you think tanks are OP

You know this game is screwed when a tanker is defending AV nades versus so called AV players.

As a tanker, I assume every player has AV nades, and I don't get into throwing range. If they actually had them, there would be far less complaining about maddies.

Clearly, the scrubs(which is 99% of the infantry players when it comes to fighting tanks) need all the help they can get, because thinking isn't their strong suit. They need more homing AV otherwise they just can't do the job.

And yet, even double hardened two players can absolutely nuke a tank.

So how are hardeners overperforming exactly?

2. Having to double up on hardeners to be able to even face av isn't a sign that hardeners are overperforming. It is players resorting to the ONLY fit that allows them to engage at an objective at all.

And your solution is to nerf hardeners because you were dropped on your head as a child?

You are better off learning to not suck at AV, that might be possible.