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Moguns Ja'Xon
The Knights Of NewEden
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Posted - 2015.08.10 00:42:00 -
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The following has long been an idea of mine and i know it is a bit controversial but... here it is:
Guns in general: Should have passive effects that can only be healed by a logi.
Regen statistics: After the delay stats are over they should be constant untill dammaged (similar to a logis reps)
Logis: Need a shield repairer.
Now for the passive effects that make sense to me:
NOTE: YOU CANNOT SWITCH AT A SUB DEPT TO DEACTIVATE THESE.
Hybrid type weaponry(includes forges): Should completely disable reps of both types. Can only be reactivated when you have gotten FULLY recharged by a logi.
Bullet based weaponry (includes minmatar explosives): This one is a bit obvious but they should cause passive bleeding dammage to THE CLONE ITSELF (doesnt matter if shields are recharged. your clone is bleeding, thus causing armor to slowly dwindle down. cant outrep this, however you can slightly negate the effects by being regen based) This is healed when you are injected with a needle. The more shrapnel from explosives or more bullets a target takes, the more bleeding dammage he takes. THIS HAS A CAP.
Laser(obvious): causes passive burning dammage to armor. same healing mechanism as the bleeding dammage, except that the suits max armor is now reduced untill fully healed by a logi. The more you get hit by lasers the worse the effect. THIS ALSO HAS A CAP. Shield regen is also slower. As stated before this effect would have a cap.
Plasma based weaponry(obvious but includes ARs): Completely disables shields once you eat through them, untill of course you are fully recharged by a logi. This effect has no cap, however it resets back to normal upon death. Impossible to outregen the shield denial obviously.
Your thoughts guys :3? These effects are open to debate as to what they are and what they do but these are the ones that make the most sense to me. Also excuse spelling errors. I dont use autocorrect or spelling suggestions at all and im on a tablet.
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IceShifter Childhaspawn
thunder godz
The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.08.10 02:04:00 -
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I think it could be fun or part of PC (lending more credence to the PC is the only thing that matters crowd but w/ e.)
Don't see it gathering support as most mercs are only concerned with scotty and lag.
It's hard to beat up hundreds of armor piercing bullets using only your face...
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Moguns Ja'Xon
The Knights Of NewEden
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Posted - 2015.08.10 02:11:00 -
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IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:I think it could be fun or part of PC (lending more credence to the PC is the only thing that matters crowd but w/ e.)
Don't see it gathering support as most mercs are only concerned with scotty and lag.
True unfortunately :/ maybe if this gets spread around?
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maybe deadcatz
the nomercs
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Posted - 2015.08.10 03:21:00 -
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This will be torture to scouts.
Wait. My reps nor 30 sheild hp per sec can save me?.......
This probably will be borked badly.
Need a speedy bro scout? Mail me,comes with shotgun and 20 pound bag of catnip for teh clonocide.(teh fak,cannot spell)
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Starlight Burner
Vader's-Fist
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Posted - 2015.08.10 04:33:00 -
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No
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korrah silain
True Illuminate
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Posted - 2015.08.10 07:09:00 -
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Starlight Burner wrote:No
This
What you are suggesting is so unbelievably devastating to any build that's not max brick tank. Think about it: why use any sort of reppers when hybrids deactivate all reps, bullet weapons cause armor to drain constantly to the point of death, lasers which BTW are anti shield weapons) perma melt armor, and plasma perma blaps shields. Not to mention if required someone to run a logi, oh and also needles. Better hope that guy who picks you ups a logi otherwise you are going to die in a few seconds because of all your negative status effects(assuming you haven been reduced to 0 max armor by being put down by a laser of course)
Let me ask this: is there any rationale behind doing this other than to arbitrarily screw everyone but logis?
you ever get to that point where you know you should sleep, but ya just...dont? yeah...me too.
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Moguns Ja'Xon
The Knights Of NewEden
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Posted - 2015.08.10 15:14:00 -
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korrah silain wrote:Starlight Burner wrote:No This What you are suggesting is so unbelievably devastating to any build that's not max brick tank. Think about it: why use any sort of reppers when hybrids deactivate all reps, bullet weapons cause armor to drain constantly to the point of death, lasers which BTW are anti shield weapons) perma melt armor, and plasma perma blaps shields. Not to mention if required someone to run a logi, oh and also needles. Better hope that guy who picks you ups a logi otherwise you are going to die in a few seconds because of all your negative status effects(assuming you haven been reduced to 0 max armor by being put down by a laser of course) Let me ask this: is there any rationale behind doing this other than to arbitrarily screw everyone but logis?
the passive dammage effects would only be minimal in the first place. and i said the effects have a cap to not make them op can you not read?
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Moguns Ja'Xon
The Knights Of NewEden
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Posted - 2015.08.10 15:17:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:This will be torture to scouts.
Wait. My reps nor 30 sheild hp per sec can save me?.......
This probably will be borked badly.
I would like to think that it wouldnt effect cloakies. I mean an electromagnetic force field would obviously deflect bullets irl... Why not in dust?
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Moguns Ja'Xon
The Knights Of NewEden
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Posted - 2015.08.10 15:18:00 -
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Starlight Burner wrote:No
Yes.
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Moguns Ja'Xon
The Knights Of NewEden
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Posted - 2015.08.10 15:19:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:This will be torture to scouts.
Wait. My reps nor 30 sheild hp per sec can save me?.......
This probably will be borked badly.
Also im pretty sure that the passive effects would be proportional to the suit.
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Megaman Trigger
Ready to Play
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Posted - 2015.08.10 20:51:00 -
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Moguns Ja'Xon wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:This will be torture to scouts.
Wait. My reps nor 30 sheild hp per sec can save me?.......
This probably will be borked badly. I would like to think that it wouldnt effect cloakies. I mean an electromagnetic force field would obviously deflect bullets irl... Why not in dust?
Non-metallic ammunition?
Purifier. First Class.
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Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.08.10 21:39:00 -
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Definitely interesting. However...
You are proposing way too much change to too many things all at once.
You would have been better off breaking this down and isolating one semi-do-able thing to focus on to start with.
A bleed mechanic is a neat idea that could have a place in a shooter like Dust. It's also something people would talk about.
Nobody is going to get behind completely changing how every weapon in the game functions however.
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Moguns Ja'Xon
The Knights Of NewEden
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Posted - 2015.08.11 16:15:00 -
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Megaman Trigger wrote:Moguns Ja'Xon wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:This will be torture to scouts.
Wait. My reps nor 30 sheild hp per sec can save me?.......
This probably will be borked badly. I would like to think that it wouldnt effect cloakies. I mean an electromagnetic force field would obviously deflect bullets irl... Why not in dust? Non-metallic ammunition?
possibly the cloak would be scrambled. lasers dealing extra dmg with shields in dust come to mind when you asked this.
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