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2 NOITCEFREP YLOH
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.08.09 06:26:00 -
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On my main I'm a prototype tanker, and Prototype ADS. I absolutely love both, but I hate swarms. Swarms have been a problem for tanks and ADS for over a year. Below I will list the reasons why the swarm launcher need completely revamped.
Swarm launcher fire way to fast. If swarmer can fire 3 rounds off ( in 3 seconds ) and take half of my armor out, somethings not right.
They lock on too easy, there should be some type of skill involved with aiming. I hate it when swarmer's lock on and fire while looking up. Maybe you should have to follow it like a laser guided missile.
No user error, they have absolutely no user error whatsoever. Any noob can be a swarmer.
Follow you forever, ill be driving my Python. Then, ill activate boosters when incoming swarm. Then they follow me literally 1/2 across the map.
The volleys turn on the dime. A missile should not literally go around a rock and hit me. Also if I'm in a dropship ill go around a building and it'll still hit me.
Finally, their way to common and easy to obtain. Self - explanatory.
Ask any tanker/ADS and they will answer the same. I let 3 av ers use my tank today. And they were strongly with swarms, ( they though tanks were op. But after me letting them use the tank, the strongly agree with me. Please CCP give us tankers and ADS pilots break. Everything in the game can kill us.
EVERYTHING IN THE GAME CAN AND WILL KILL US |
shanghili
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.08.09 06:27:00 -
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Strange ,to me the swarms lock slowly
2 heavies 1 scout
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
932
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Posted - 2015.08.09 06:29:00 -
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They just need to add a flare module to ADS's to draw off swarm fire for a volley or two.
Problem solved!
Though, it's not going to happen :3
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2 NOITCEFREP YLOH
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.08.09 06:32:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:They just need to add a flare module to ADS's to draw off swarm fire for a volley or two.
Problem solved!
Though, it's not going to happen :3
What about tanks lol
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shanghili
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.08.09 06:34:00 -
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2 NOITCEFREP YLOH wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:They just need to add a flare module to ADS's to draw off swarm fire for a volley or two.
Problem solved!
Though, it's not going to happen :3 What about tanks lol
What was that system in cod advanced warfare in which rockets couldn't hit the tanks?
2 heavies 1 scout
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2 NOITCEFREP YLOH
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.08.09 06:37:00 -
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shanghili wrote:2 NOITCEFREP YLOH wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:They just need to add a flare module to ADS's to draw off swarm fire for a volley or two.
Problem solved!
Though, it's not going to happen :3 What about tanks lol What was that system in cod advanced warfare in which rockets couldn't hit the tanks?
NO he forgot to mention tanks
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.08.09 06:39:00 -
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Oh boo hoo the scout with a swarm launcher kills me when I decide to try to run around in god mode.
FORCE MULTIPLIER < thats what vehicles are.
Stay with your team instead of trying to play god and the A/V will get wrecked before he gets 2 swarms out.
QQ some more.................
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Maximus Mobius
Fatal Absolution
859
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Posted - 2015.08.09 06:46:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Oh boo hoo the scout with a swarm launcher kills me when I decide to try to run around in god mode.
FORCE MULTIPLIER < thats what vehicles are.
Stay with your team instead of trying to play god and the A/V will get wrecked before he gets 2 swarms out.
QQ some more.................
lol double hardeners with double heavy reps; god himself can't help you =ƒÿï
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
933
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Posted - 2015.08.09 06:46:00 -
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2 NOITCEFREP YLOH wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:They just need to add a flare module to ADS's to draw off swarm fire for a volley or two.
Problem solved!
Though, it's not going to happen :3 What about tanks lol
Swarms are not really a problem for tanks honestly. You can have so much more health, reps, hardeners, tons of stuff more then the drop ships. Swarms also do less damage and have a slower rate of fire then the assault forge gun.
I mean, you could pop some flare on your tank too if you really wanted to, but swarms have really made the ADS's useless. The tanks can still get by.
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
764
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Posted - 2015.08.09 06:49:00 -
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A proto tank with hardeners will shrug off my minmanado with proto swarms your fitting it wrong... Been running av for two years.
Rails can 1 shot any av on the field. Missiles 1-2 shots, blasters in less than a second.
There is a reason there is a vehicle cap in matches and why they cost so much.
I've had three av's attacking my advanced tank at once and survived I had to run... but even 3 starter fits can take out officer suits when coordinating with ease. I've also destroyed Proto tanks that weren't paying attention in seconds.
You have an advantage vs 90% of the field but you don't get to be invincible.
As for dropships... You can out run a swarm with afterburners on... They only travel 400 m your DS can also engage them from outside their max lock range.
All this being said... I've killed Duna in his tank. Made me smile. |
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
3
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Posted - 2015.08.09 06:49:00 -
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Maximus Mobius wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Oh boo hoo the scout with a swarm launcher kills me when I decide to try to run around in god mode.
FORCE MULTIPLIER < thats what vehicles are.
Stay with your team instead of trying to play god and the A/V will get wrecked before he gets 2 swarms out.
QQ some more................. lol double hardeners with double heavy reps; god himself can't help you =ƒÿï
More proof of how dumb this thread is. Forum based vehicle operators have been the biggest blight on this game since the day I started.
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Maximus Mobius
Fatal Absolution
863
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Posted - 2015.08.09 06:51:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Maximus Mobius wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Oh boo hoo the scout with a swarm launcher kills me when I decide to try to run around in god mode.
FORCE MULTIPLIER < thats what vehicles are.
Stay with your team instead of trying to play god and the A/V will get wrecked before he gets 2 swarms out.
QQ some more................. lol double hardeners with double heavy reps; god himself can't help you =ƒÿï More proof of how dumb this thread is. Forum based vehicle operators have been the biggest blight on this game since the day I started.
QQ =ƒÿ¥
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
3
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Posted - 2015.08.09 06:53:00 -
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Maximus Mobius wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Maximus Mobius wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Oh boo hoo the scout with a swarm launcher kills me when I decide to try to run around in god mode.
FORCE MULTIPLIER < thats what vehicles are.
Stay with your team instead of trying to play god and the A/V will get wrecked before he gets 2 swarms out.
QQ some more................. lol double hardeners with double heavy reps; god himself can't help you =ƒÿï More proof of how dumb this thread is. Forum based vehicle operators have been the biggest blight on this game since the day I started. QQ =ƒÿ¥
I am just confused now. GG
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
933
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Posted - 2015.08.09 06:53:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:A proto tank with hardeners will shrug off my minmanado with proto swarms your fitting it wrong... Been running av for two years.
Rails can 1 shot any av on the field. Missiles 1-2 shots, blasters in less than a second.
There is a reason there is a vehicle cap in matches and why they cost so much.
I've had three av's attacking my advanced tank at once and survived I had to run... but even 3 starter fits can take out officer suits when coordinating with ease. I've also destroyed Proto tanks that weren't paying attention in seconds.
You have an advantage vs 90% of the field but you don't get to be invincible.
As for dropships... You can out run a swarm with afterburners on... They only travel 400 m your DS can also engage them from outside their max lock range.
All this being said... I've killed Duna in his tank. Made me smile.
I've had swarms chase my drop ship 500 meters away from where they where shot, with thrusts on. Calculation by having been shot at from someone standing right by a point and looking at the distance from it when I get hit.
Unless i'm already 200m from them and running away when they fire off a volley, they always catch me :/
The C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y,
(~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~)
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Maximus Mobius
Fatal Absolution
863
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Posted - 2015.08.09 06:55:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Maximus Mobius wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Maximus Mobius wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Oh boo hoo the scout with a swarm launcher kills me when I decide to try to run around in god mode.
FORCE MULTIPLIER < thats what vehicles are.
Stay with your team instead of trying to play god and the A/V will get wrecked before he gets 2 swarms out.
QQ some more................. lol double hardeners with double heavy reps; god himself can't help you =ƒÿï More proof of how dumb this thread is. Forum based vehicle operators have been the biggest blight on this game since the day I started. QQ =ƒÿ¥ I am just confused now. GG
GG =ƒÿå
ALL HAIL MAXSON!!
Multi-role Tanker
Tanks and turrets supplied by Caldari Steel and Ishukone!!
For The State!!
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
766
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Posted - 2015.08.09 07:14:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:A proto tank with hardeners will shrug off my minmanado with proto swarms your fitting it wrong... Been running av for two years.
Rails can 1 shot any av on the field. Missiles 1-2 shots, blasters in less than a second.
There is a reason there is a vehicle cap in matches and why they cost so much.
I've had three av's attacking my advanced tank at once and survived I had to run... but even 3 starter fits can take out officer suits when coordinating with ease. I've also destroyed Proto tanks that weren't paying attention in seconds.
You have an advantage vs 90% of the field but you don't get to be invincible.
As for dropships... You can out run a swarm with afterburners on... They only travel 400 m your DS can also engage them from outside their max lock range.
All this being said... I've killed Duna in his tank. Made me smile. I've had swarms chase my drop ship 500 meters away from where they where shot, with thrusts on. Calculation by having been shot at from someone standing right by a point and looking at the distance from it when I get hit. Unless i'm already 200m from them and running away when they fire off a volley, they always catch me :/
At 175 m they lose lock... Guessing distances gets pilots killed... And they only travel 400 meters then self destruct.
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Sicerly Yaw
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
777
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Posted - 2015.08.09 07:15:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:A proto tank with hardeners will shrug off my minmanado with proto swarms your fitting it wrong... Been running av for two years.
Rails can 1 shot any av on the field. Missiles 1-2 shots, blasters in less than a second.
There is a reason there is a vehicle cap in matches and why they cost so much.
I've had three av's attacking my advanced tank at once and survived I had to run... but even 3 starter fits can take out officer suits when coordinating with ease. I've also destroyed Proto tanks that weren't paying attention in seconds.
You have an advantage vs 90% of the field but you don't get to be invincible.
As for dropships... You can out run a swarm with afterburners on... They only travel 400 m your DS can also engage them from outside their max lock range.
All this being said... I've killed Duna in his tank. Made me smile. I've had swarms chase my drop ship 500 meters away from where they where shot, with thrusts on. Calculation by having been shot at from someone standing right by a point and looking at the distance from it when I get hit. Unless i'm already 200m from them and running away when they fire off a volley, they always catch me :/
if a noob pilot like me can outrun swarms with no boost then im sure you can figure it out, perhaps you need to change your flight patterns
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
935
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Posted - 2015.08.09 07:17:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:A proto tank with hardeners will shrug off my minmanado with proto swarms your fitting it wrong... Been running av for two years.
Rails can 1 shot any av on the field. Missiles 1-2 shots, blasters in less than a second.
There is a reason there is a vehicle cap in matches and why they cost so much.
I've had three av's attacking my advanced tank at once and survived I had to run... but even 3 starter fits can take out officer suits when coordinating with ease. I've also destroyed Proto tanks that weren't paying attention in seconds.
You have an advantage vs 90% of the field but you don't get to be invincible.
As for dropships... You can out run a swarm with afterburners on... They only travel 400 m your DS can also engage them from outside their max lock range.
All this being said... I've killed Duna in his tank. Made me smile. I've had swarms chase my drop ship 500 meters away from where they where shot, with thrusts on. Calculation by having been shot at from someone standing right by a point and looking at the distance from it when I get hit. Unless i'm already 200m from them and running away when they fire off a volley, they always catch me :/ At 175 m they lose lock... Guessing distances gets pilots killed... And they only travel 400 meters then self destruct.
Oh, I've also tried to hide behind things only to have them curve around and get me... I don't think they are supposed to do that o.O
I also run the incubis too, so that armor damage is lethal... 3 volleys are normally throw my way by the time I can hit the thrusts to get out of there D:
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
766
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Posted - 2015.08.09 07:20:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:A proto tank with hardeners will shrug off my minmanado with proto swarms your fitting it wrong... Been running av for two years.
Rails can 1 shot any av on the field. Missiles 1-2 shots, blasters in less than a second.
There is a reason there is a vehicle cap in matches and why they cost so much.
I've had three av's attacking my advanced tank at once and survived I had to run... but even 3 starter fits can take out officer suits when coordinating with ease. I've also destroyed Proto tanks that weren't paying attention in seconds.
You have an advantage vs 90% of the field but you don't get to be invincible.
As for dropships... You can out run a swarm with afterburners on... They only travel 400 m your DS can also engage them from outside their max lock range.
All this being said... I've killed Duna in his tank. Made me smile. I've had swarms chase my drop ship 500 meters away from where they where shot, with thrusts on. Calculation by having been shot at from someone standing right by a point and looking at the distance from it when I get hit. Unless i'm already 200m from them and running away when they fire off a volley, they always catch me :/ At 175 m they lose lock... Guessing distances gets pilots killed... And they only travel 400 meters then self destruct.
Only possibility... You were hauling ass when your DS was destroyed then continued away from attacker and stayed in till it popped.
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
766
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Posted - 2015.08.09 07:32:00 -
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Btw infantry can kill that guy staring into the sky as easily as one could shoot a sitting duck... In a barrel
Blame them. |
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
938
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Posted - 2015.08.09 07:40:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Btw infantry can kill that guy staring into the sky as easily as one could shoot a sitting duck... In a barrel
Blame them.
I blame the blue berries... for a lot ;~;
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Maximus Mobius
Fatal Absolution
863
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Posted - 2015.08.09 07:42:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Btw infantry can kill that guy staring into the sky as easily as one could shoot a sitting duck... In a barrel
Blame them. I blame the blue berries... for a lot ;~;
I blame Obama.
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
938
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Posted - 2015.08.09 07:43:00 -
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Maximus Mobius wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Btw infantry can kill that guy staring into the sky as easily as one could shoot a sitting duck... In a barrel
Blame them. I blame the blue berries... for a lot ;~; I blame Obama.
Psh, he is a blueberry, lmao
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
766
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Posted - 2015.08.09 07:47:00 -
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And I will blame q syncing corps with unlimited isk in pubs for the ultimate death of the game. |
2 NOITCEFREP YLOH
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2015.08.09 07:53:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Oh boo hoo the scout with a swarm launcher kills me when I decide to try to run around in god mode.
FORCE MULTIPLIER < thats what vehicles are.
Stay with your team instead of trying to play god and the A/V will get wrecked before he gets 2 swarms out.
QQ some more.................
you......you dont tank do you |
deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
3
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Posted - 2015.08.09 08:02:00 -
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2 NOITCEFREP YLOH wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Oh boo hoo the scout with a swarm launcher kills me when I decide to try to run around in god mode.
FORCE MULTIPLIER < thats what vehicles are.
Stay with your team instead of trying to play god and the A/V will get wrecked before he gets 2 swarms out.
QQ some more................. you......you dont tank do you
I have only dabbled in tanks on my alt that I never use which has about 12 million SP in only tanks and have not been on it since several updates ago.
I have watched a 4 man squad built around a well fitted tank wreck 12 - 14 people trying to hold a point with almost no assistance from their blueberries. 1 driver, 1 gunner, and 2 shot gun scouts clearing A/V and some infantry can and will clear an unlimited number of people if they are working together even remotely efficiently. This is exactly how a force multiplier is suppose to work and for the people that use it that way it works incredibly well.
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Robert Conway
Concordiat Mercenaries
507
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Posted - 2015.08.09 08:02:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:Maximus Mobius wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Btw infantry can kill that guy staring into the sky as easily as one could shoot a sitting duck... In a barrel
Blame them. I blame the blue berries... for a lot ;~; I blame Obama. Psh, he is a blueberry, lmao
Perhaps a team killing blue berry? Yes? 
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2 NOITCEFREP YLOH
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2015.08.09 08:05:00 -
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text me in game @ holy perfection and ill let you get murdered by swarmer in a gv.0 |
Genral69 death
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
619
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Posted - 2015.08.09 09:30:00 -
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2 NOITCEFREP YLOH wrote: On my main I'm a prototype tanker, and Prototype ADS. I absolutely love both, but I hate swarms. Swarms have been a problem for tanks and ADS for over a year. Below I will list the reasons why the swarm launcher need completely revamped.
Swarm launcher fire way to fast. If swarmer can fire 3 rounds off ( in 3 seconds ) and take half of my armor out, somethings not right.
They lock on too easy, there should be some type of skill involved with aiming. I hate it when swarmer's lock on and fire while looking up. Maybe you should have to follow it like a laser guided missile.
No user error, they have absolutely no user error whatsoever. Any noob can be a swarmer.
Follow you forever, ill be driving my Python. Then, ill activate boosters when incoming swarm. Then they follow me literally 1/2 across the map.
The volleys turn on the dime. A missile should not literally go around a rock and hit me. Also if I'm in a dropship ill go around a building and it'll still hit me.
Finally, their way to common and easy to obtain. Self - explanatory.
Ask any tanker/ADS and they will answer the same. I let 3 av ers use my tank today. And they were strongly with swarms, ( they though tanks were op. But after me letting them use the tank, the strongly agree with me. Please CCP give us tankers and ADS pilots break. Everything in the game can kill us.
EVERYTHING IN THE GAME CAN AND WILL KILL US
Personally id purpose a buff to ads, why is it that a grimmness has more slot layouts that a ads .
I say more slots and more cpu/pg .
As for doughing swarms in the air, it is near impossible .
You need to be going full speed and have the tightest turn you can get . Its a slight bit easier if you fly on your side towards the turn , but that can also mess some people up..
As for hav, I think tbs Maddy is fine but the gunlogi could do with some work
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
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Posted - 2015.08.09 09:50:00 -
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As a tanker, swarms make me yawn. Especially in my gunni.
That beacon though..... It WILL gank you.
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