lee corwood
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Posted - 2015.08.10 01:31:00 -
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Mikel Arias wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Just as I said, despite the OP speaking almost entirely about dropships, mentioning tanks has framed the debate in terms of madruger OP! swarms not good enough! which i actually agree with.
Anyone that thinks swarms are balanced against ADS, needs to face a squad in domination that has more than 1 minmando.
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[...snip...] There are many ways to die in this game. You are in a tank and you are complaining that there is a weapon that can kill you. Sounds silly to me.
That's not the point he was trying to make. He's pointing out specifically that the vehicle balance argument is lumping in Dropships and Tanks as if they were the same beast. And they're not. Every time we've balanced the AV weaponry against the vehicles they've shifted it as a whole class. I've been AV for a very long time and I've always felt DS were never given the love they need.
For the tank, we all agree. There's arguments to and fro about:
- money value of tank vs AV fit
- 1 pilot verus multiple players
- dps and/or survivability between the two
- ease of use between the two
It goes on and on and on. I've seen all sides of it. I was there when swarmers were actually smart. I was there when tanks were TRULY insane. However, I feel both DS and Tankers suffer from is a lack of purpose in the game. DS much more so than Tanks. Tanks we sort of molded to fit into a murder bot because the whole idea of tanker battles in this game suffers such a quick end game against one another that it almost forces you into situations of tank versus man. I feel we all would react to them differently if there use was more varied. Like using a tank to bring down a wall that offers alternative access to an objective.
DS I feel are especially at a loss. We've basically created them for the sole purpose of roof camping. They run into an area. I chase them out of it. They run away. They come back and we do the dance all over. They're basically a pinata. I've seen great DS pilots but still their only ability to shine is in PC battles where most of the infantry wasn't equipped with AV. The rest of the time, they simply excel at maneuvering away.
It's common for you to see a tank go 22/1 in a pub. You'll never see a DS pilot do that, which is the point he was trying to make. The conversation can never be simply AV versus vehicles. We have to pull DS and Tank apart or one will always be severely out of balance.
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lee corwood
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Posted - 2015.08.10 02:21:00 -
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Mikel Arias wrote: lots of stuff
I will admit that I overstated. I have seen many good DS pilots just not lately. I feel with the big changes in the game, many pilots skilled out of vehicles, which is a shame. I see way less pilots than usual and they aren't the great pilots I remember.
I also agree with cover. I've seen many pilots which engage in combat use large towers, spinning maneuvers and mountains to such a great advantage that you can't help but cheer for them. However, seeing a dropship get anywhere near 10+ kills in a match...I haven't seen that in a long, long time 
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