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        |  Genral69 death
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      | Posted - 2015.08.04 23:41:00 -
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 Does anyone know what the damage out put of a scrambler rifle is when charged
 Basic,advanced,proto if possible please
 
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        |  Nocturnal Soul
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      | Posted - 2015.08.04 23:46:00 -
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 Multiple the base damage by 2.5
 
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        |  Genral69 death
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      | Posted - 2015.08.04 23:52:00 -
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 Basic scrambler 75 damage correct?
 That's 187.50 damage
 So why is my cal scout with
 400 shield +87 Amor still being one shotted by this thing
 
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        |  True Adamance
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      | Posted - 2015.08.04 23:54:00 -
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 Genral69 death wrote:Basic scrambler 75 damage correct?  
 71.5 if I recall correctly.
 
 
 
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        |  Genral69 death
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      | Posted - 2015.08.04 23:56:00 -
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 Ok that's 187.85 damage.
 Still a massive gap missing
 CCP?
 
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        |  True Adamance
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      | Posted - 2015.08.04 23:59:00 -
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 Genral69 death wrote:Ok that's 187.85 damage.Still a massive gap missing
 CCP?
 3x Complex Damage Modules plus Proficiency Skills plus damage modifiers vs Shields, etc.
 
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        |  Genral69 death
 Random Gunz
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      | Posted - 2015.08.05 00:00:00 -
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 True Adamance wrote:Genral69 death wrote:Ok that's 187.85 damage.Still a massive gap missing
 CCP?
  3x Complex Damage Modules plus Proficiency Skills plus damage modifiers vs Shields, etc. On a basic gal mando i think not . Good try tho
 
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        |  Daddrobit
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      | Posted - 2015.08.05 00:02:00 -
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 Genral69 death wrote:Ok that's 187.85 damage.Still a massive gap missing
 CCP?
 
 They most likely got a headshot,
 
 or they instantly followed up with more shots and the game lagged at just that instant showing you only a fraction of the engagement.
 
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        |  Thokk Nightshade
 Montana Militia
 
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      | Posted - 2015.08.05 00:08:00 -
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 True Adamance wrote:Genral69 death wrote:Ok that's 187.85 damage.Still a massive gap missing
 CCP?
  3x Complex Damage Modules plus Proficiency Skills plus damage modifiers vs Shields, etc. 
 That still isn't going to get you that far, is it. 3 complex damage mods is a little over 18%. 3% damage per level is another 15%. on right right commando at proto you get another 10%. Warbarge is probably about 3-4 %.
 
 I know with a Calmando, 3 complex damage mods and a rail rifle, I'm getting about a 46% bonus (including warbarge bonus). Lets include the 20% against shields for a ScR so 66%.
 
 187 x .66% bonus is 123. 123 + 187 is still only 310 adjusted DPS against shields. That's not 487.
 
 I get where you're coming from True but the numbers simply don't add up.
 
 *edit* What is the headshot bonus on the ScR? That could be where the difference is coming in.
 
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        |  Genral69 death
 Random Gunz
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      | Posted - 2015.08.05 00:09:00 -
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 Daddrobit wrote:Genral69 death wrote:Ok that's 187.85 damage.Still a massive gap missing
 CCP?
 They most likely got a headshot,  or they instantly followed up with more shots and the game lagged at just that instant showing you only a fraction of the engagement. I know it was only one shot but It may have been a head shot
 I could be picked up but that might just have not terminated me
 What's the head shot multiplayer?
 
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        |  Mejt0
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      | Posted - 2015.08.05 00:13:00 -
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 I think it's 1.47 or 1.87. Something around these numbers.
 
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        |  True Adamance
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      | Posted - 2015.08.05 00:14:00 -
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 Thokk Nightshade wrote:True Adamance wrote:Genral69 death wrote:Ok that's 187.85 damage.Still a massive gap missing
 CCP?
  3x Complex Damage Modules plus Proficiency Skills plus damage modifiers vs Shields, etc. That still isn't going to get you that far, is it. 3 complex damage mods is a little over 18%. 3% damage per level is another 15%. on right right commando at proto you get another 10%. Warbarge is probably about 3-4 %.  I know with a Calmando, 3 complex damage mods and a rail rifle, I'm getting about a 46% bonus (including warbarge bonus). Lets include the 20% against shields for a ScR so 66%.  187 x .66% bonus is 123. 123 + 187 is still only 310 adjusted DPS against shields. That's not 487. I get where you're coming from True but the numbers simply don't add up.  *edit* What is the headshot bonus on the ScR? That could be where the difference is coming in. 
 I'm not even really aware of what this thread is about.... I'm just supplying numbers and factors for consideration..... whai u so meen Thokk?!
 
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        |  Zan Azikuchi
 G.R.A.V.E
 The Ditanian Alliance
 
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      | Posted - 2015.08.05 00:24:00 -
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 Headshot of most scrambler weapons (excusing the assault) is at least 300-400%, last time I saw at least.
 
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        |  Nocturnal Soul
 Primordial Threat
 
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      | Posted - 2015.08.05 00:35:00 -
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 Head shot is the same as every other rifle
 
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        |  Thokk Nightshade
 Montana Militia
 
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      | Posted - 2015.08.05 00:53:00 -
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 True Adamance wrote:Thokk Nightshade wrote:True Adamance wrote:Genral69 death wrote:Ok that's 187.85 damage.Still a massive gap missing
 CCP?
  3x Complex Damage Modules plus Proficiency Skills plus damage modifiers vs Shields, etc. That still isn't going to get you that far, is it. 3 complex damage mods is a little over 18%. 3% damage per level is another 15%. on right right commando at proto you get another 10%. Warbarge is probably about 3-4 %.  I know with a Calmando, 3 complex damage mods and a rail rifle, I'm getting about a 46% bonus (including warbarge bonus). Lets include the 20% against shields for a ScR so 66%.  187 x .66% bonus is 123. 123 + 187 is still only 310 adjusted DPS against shields. That's not 487. I get where you're coming from True but the numbers simply don't add up.  *edit* What is the headshot bonus on the ScR? That could be where the difference is coming in. I'm not even really aware of what this thread is about.... I'm just supplying numbers and factors for consideration..... whai u so meen Thokk?! 
 
 Thokk sorry. Thokk not meen be so meen. True forgive Thokk?
 
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        |  Squagga
 Fatal Absolution
 Negative-Feedback
 
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      | Posted - 2015.08.05 01:21:00 -
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 Now .. How.. Does the most OP weapon in the game..currently.. Take down .. A scout.. I think you guys know the answer to this
 
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        |  Nocturnal Soul
 Primordial Threat
 
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      | Posted - 2015.08.05 01:30:00 -
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 Squagga wrote:Now .. How.. Does the most OP weapon in the game..currently.. Take down .. A scout.. I think you guys know the answer to this Modded controllers!!!!
 
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        |  True Adamance
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
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      | Posted - 2015.08.05 02:02:00 -
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 Thokk Nightshade wrote:True Adamance wrote:Thokk Nightshade wrote:True Adamance wrote:Genral69 death wrote:Ok that's 187.85 damage.Still a massive gap missing
 CCP?
  3x Complex Damage Modules plus Proficiency Skills plus damage modifiers vs Shields, etc. That still isn't going to get you that far, is it. 3 complex damage mods is a little over 18%. 3% damage per level is another 15%. on right right commando at proto you get another 10%. Warbarge is probably about 3-4 %.  I know with a Calmando, 3 complex damage mods and a rail rifle, I'm getting about a 46% bonus (including warbarge bonus). Lets include the 20% against shields for a ScR so 66%.  187 x .66% bonus is 123. 123 + 187 is still only 310 adjusted DPS against shields. That's not 487. I get where you're coming from True but the numbers simply don't add up.  *edit* What is the headshot bonus on the ScR? That could be where the difference is coming in. I'm not even really aware of what this thread is about.... I'm just supplying numbers and factors for consideration..... whai u so meen Thokk?! Thokk sorry. Thokk not meen be so meen. True forgive Thokk?  
 True forgive.....True no stay mad at Thokk.
 
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        |  Lightning35 Delta514
 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
 
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      | Posted - 2015.08.05 02:27:00 -
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 Genral69 death wrote:Basic scrambler 75 damage correct? That's 187.50 damage
 So why is my cal scout with
 400 shield +87 Amor still being one shotted by this thing
 
 187.50x1.20=225 damage to shields.
 187.50x.80=150 damage to armor.
 
 Maybe headshot? I know what you mean as I sometimes do get ohk by it but it doesn't make sense. Lemme add a complex damage.
 
 187.50x1.07=200x1.20 to shields=240
 
 Now lemme add warbarge damage to 5 (1 per level) and skill bonus (3 per level I think.)
 
 187.50x1.05=196.87x1.15=226.4x1.20=271.687. Now add 3 complex damage which gives you like 15% more
 
 271.687x1.15=312.44
 
 
 
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        |  Squagga
 Fatal Absolution
 Negative-Feedback
 
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      | Posted - 2015.08.05 02:48:00 -
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 Nocturnal Soul wrote:Squagga wrote:Now .. How.. Does the most OP weapon in the game..currently.. Take down .. A scout.. I think you guys know the answer to this Modded controllers!!!! 
 Haha. Always in question. Honestly there are some things in this game, where the weaponry needs to fixed a bit. People usually don't want to hear that, because it involves the weapon they use. There's nothing wrong with the weapon they use. But when you get things like this. Why is a scout suit getting shot down so quick? Well cause it's a scout suit. Also it's a Caldari scout suit. Right now, shields are so weak. Not hard to figure out
 
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        |  Lightning35 Delta514
 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
 
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      | Posted - 2015.08.05 02:56:00 -
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 Thokk Nightshade wrote:True Adamance wrote:Genral69 death wrote:Ok that's 187.85 damage.Still a massive gap missing
 CCP?
  3x Complex Damage Modules plus Proficiency Skills plus damage modifiers vs Shields, etc. That still isn't going to get you that far, is it. 3 complex damage mods is a little over 18%. 3% damage per level is another 15%. on right right commando at proto you get another 10%. Warbarge is probably about 3-4 %.  I know with a Calmando, 3 complex damage mods and a rail rifle, I'm getting about a 46% bonus (including warbarge bonus). Lets include the 20% against shields for a ScR so 66%.  187 x .66% bonus is 123. 123 + 187 is still only 310 adjusted DPS against shields. That's not 487. I get where you're coming from True but the numbers simply don't add up.  *edit* What is the headshot bonus on the ScR? That could be where the difference is coming in. 
 
 Thad not how you do the math for this but you do get a close answer.
 
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        |  Genral69 death
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      | Posted - 2015.08.05 07:35:00 -
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 Squagga wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Squagga wrote:Now .. How.. Does the most OP weapon in the game..currently.. Take down .. A scout.. I think you guys know the answer to this Modded controllers!!!! Haha. Always in question. Honestly there are some things in this game, where the weaponry needs to fixed a bit. People usually don't want to hear that, because it involves the weapon they use. There's nothing wrong with the weapon they use. But when you get things like this. Why is a scout suit getting shot down so quick? Well cause it's a scout suit. Also it's a Caldari scout suit. Right now, shields are so weak. Not hard to figure out Did u read any of the posts above or are you just ignoring them
 
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        |  Nocturnal Soul
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      | Posted - 2015.08.05 09:25:00 -
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 Genral69 death wrote:Squagga wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Squagga wrote:Now .. How.. Does the most OP weapon in the game..currently.. Take down .. A scout.. I think you guys know the answer to this Modded controllers!!!! Haha. Always in question. Honestly there are some things in this game, where the weaponry needs to fixed a bit. People usually don't want to hear that, because it involves the weapon they use. There's nothing wrong with the weapon they use. But when you get things like this. Why is a scout suit getting shot down so quick? Well cause it's a scout suit. Also it's a Caldari scout suit. Right now, shields are so weak. Not hard to figure out Did u read any of the posts above or are you just ignoring them  400 shield not your average scout It's average for a Ck.0 scout.
 
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        |  Genral69 death
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      | Posted - 2015.08.05 09:29:00 -
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 This is my advanced scout, and slightly missing the point
 The numbers clearly do not add up
 
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        |  Thokk Nightshade
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      | Posted - 2015.08.05 14:36:00 -
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 Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Thokk Nightshade wrote:True Adamance wrote:Genral69 death wrote:Ok that's 187.85 damage.Still a massive gap missing
 CCP?
  3x Complex Damage Modules plus Proficiency Skills plus damage modifiers vs Shields, etc. That still isn't going to get you that far, is it. 3 complex damage mods is a little over 18%. 3% damage per level is another 15%. on right right commando at proto you get another 10%. Warbarge is probably about 3-4 %.  I know with a Calmando, 3 complex damage mods and a rail rifle, I'm getting about a 46% bonus (including warbarge bonus). Lets include the 20% against shields for a ScR so 66%.  187 x .66% bonus is 123. 123 + 187 is still only 310 adjusted DPS against shields. That's not 487. I get where you're coming from True but the numbers simply don't add up.  *edit* What is the headshot bonus on the ScR? That could be where the difference is coming in. Thad not how you do the math for this but you do get a close answer.  
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        |  deezy dabest
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 Evil Syndicate Alliance.
 
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      | Posted - 2015.08.05 15:09:00 -
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 I thought full charge bonus on the SCR was 3.5x ??
 
 
 
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        |  Sicerly Yaw
 Corrosive Synergy
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      | Posted - 2015.08.05 15:32:00 -
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 the std scrambler is 65 damage, and the head shot multiplier is said to be 2.5 but it had been mentioned that it was increased when the damage was nerfed, that and a headshot does about 30% extra damage on top of the extra 20% for the profile and 15% for ma proficiency
 
 add it all up and you get 165% damage without damge mods so 107.25 damage on a std rifle, add in the charged multi and you get about 268.125 add in damage mods and you can increase that to over 300 on just the std version plus barge bonus and even more on a max amarr mando, so if they have a proto ScR on any suit with maxed skills using damge mods they can possibly get close to 400 or more damge but its easier to believe that you were hit by more then just the charged shot as there is almost no delay in the extra shot it would take to deal that much damge, 107 a hit is enough to take any shield suit down in under a second with just the std version even with a fully stacked cal sent
 
 compared to the combat rifle even with maxed skills you'd be lucky to be able to deal so much damge before they turn around and slaughter you, even in an armor suit taking away all the bonuses to shields but keeping in mind passive bonuses and damage mods, you're still doing over 60 damge a shot and if you are getting head shots you're doing about 78 damge per shot add on the charge multi which I'm sure has possibly increased you're doing at least 195 damge per shot to armor
 so in theory if you start off with a charged shot and get nothing but head shots it would take about 10 shots after the charged shot to deal over 1k damge to armor all in under a second with max RPM being achieved (600 RPM)
 
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        |  Union118
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      | Posted - 2015.08.05 15:45:00 -
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 Nocturnal Soul wrote:All you need to know is pew pew pew. If you trust in the pew the pew shall give back onto you by cleansing your foes. But if your faith falters so shall its trust in you.
 
 Multiple the base damage by 2.5
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