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Leither Yiltron
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Posted - 2015.08.04 22:38:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:howard sanchez wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:howard sanchez wrote:Look, I just want to ask this right now - are we gonna get Rouge Wedding'd again?
Is CCP using Shanghai (Dust team) to develop a VR game while doing everything they can to suck the last bits of aurum out of a small but dedicated community of loyalists (if you're playing, reading or thinking about DUST you're a loyalist, all there is to it)?
Because, CCP; I don't want to do that again. Hear me? DON'T DO THAT AGAIN! Answers: Yes. Yes. This is serious. I understand that Ratatti is in Iceland and Frame working undercover...there has been an audible silence from the few blues we have. And, of course, there's that giant elephant standing over there in the corner. PS3 is going legacy end of this year. We get out or we die. Any port in a storm, you know. And now this.... Shanghai is working on another game. Here I am trying to lift the PCU, generate interest and involvement in DUST. Spending a lot of money on Aurum (because Hilmar said that DUST becoming profitable is the only reason it's still alive)..... And I want to know if Rouge is gonna bust in here and yell, SURPISE! again just before turning off the lights. And for the record, CCP, your continued silence on these issues only deepens the concern of many many paying customers. Not that it's any of your collective concern, but I am in Iceland going to my brothers wedding and to my other brother's newborn baptism, but please keep tinfoiling, it pleases me. 
How dare you have people that you love, other than (as a collective) us!
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Posted - 2015.08.05 02:54:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Vell0cet wrote:Put me on the phone with CCP Hilmar next time you need to make a business case, and I'll get you all the resources you could ever want (and a raise). Keep up the good work.  CPM1 spent a lot of time hanging around Hilmar at Fanfest where possible for good reason. :P Just saying. Regarding your above response, Vell0cet, I agree CCP needs to be concerned about Star Citizen and other competitors on their way. I responded in a thread on the EVE forums just today, once again stating my strong desire for WiS to be properly returned to. (Walking in Stations, for the uninitiated.) And game integration is definitely something I've always wanted. But as far as I'm aware, until that's a priority for the EVE team and the EVE developers, there's not a lot I can say on that. (CPM don't have a lot of access to EVE developers.) Integration with EVE, the API, a lot of that is all Iceland's domain. The EVE team is busy reinventing nullsec to be... about as boring as it was before... rather than doing things that push the envelope. That's on EVE players to demand a change in what they do there and on EVE developers to do it. How often do you guys talk to the CSM? I think DUST could "easily" (from a design standpoint) be added to "Fozzie Sov."
Design is almost never easy unless you're copying someone else's good design.
Soraya Xel wrote:Recently someone asked FoxFour about getting DUST Alerts workng again, and I offered to help host it or whatever if needbe, but didn't get a response. (This was all public forums and Twitter, FWIW.)
I always hoped that one day I would be someone.
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Posted - 2015.08.05 03:55:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:Leither Yiltron wrote:Design is almost never easy unless you're copying someone else's good design. My point was that there are ways to integrate DUST into Fonzie Sov that wouldn't require major/complex changes. EVE has code that spawns nodes in system to be fought over, DUST has code to spawn PC battles, an interface exists between the games for making transactions (like orbitals) via the CREST API. It would be reasonably "easy" for EVE to generate a PC Sov battle for Mercs to fight in. EVE has a mechanism for raising the index of a system that helps defend Sov, the idea of PvE in DUST has been discussed and could be a possibility. Assuming they figure out how to make that happen, running PvE in DUST could raise the index of the system without a ton of work (beside creating the PvE engine obviously) from an integration standpoint. The EVE server knows where DUST FW battles are happening. EVE has a UI for displaying events/anomolies in system, it seems like it would be pretty easy to add FW battles to the UI when you're in system,.Another thing they could easily change would simply be improving the EVE bonuses when you own a planet in PC. Make it a really desirable bonus and EVE players will start to care.
It's often much easier to describe a mechanic than it is to code it. Large pieces of software (like games) have their own internal models, interfaces, designs, etc., the technicalities of which are usually impossible to predict without inspection. Without those technicalities there's no way to know what the actual implementation difficulty of any given change is.
The same story's true where it comes to game design. It's easy to say "I can see a mechanic where an action in Eve schedules a battle in Dust". Even a cursory design-oriented examination turns up questions which would take more time to answer: What specific action in Eve would trigger these battles in Dust? How often would they be able to be triggered? What parties would be able to fight in Dust? What in-battle rewards are there for Dust players? Clearly the list can get extensive. Who's going to pay for the designers whose job it is to answer these questions, not to mention the coders who would then have to implement the design?
If something's truly easy, it has usually already been done.
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Posted - 2015.08.05 19:01:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Starlight Burner wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Basically, what it comes down to, is CSMs and EVE devs mostly care about EVE players, much like CPMs and DUST devs mostly care about DUST players. The sweet spot of mutual interest will happen someday but that day isn't today. Talk to regular EVE players, that's going to get you much further than trying to convince CSM to take our wishes over those of their own community. Shame, well CCP has 9 months to put something together; because my patience for a great Space Sci-fi game is running out. Last bet is on SC since DUST isn't getting more involvement with EVE. Dat FPS mod though. SC is only going to be for a certain crowd though, given the high required specs for your PC, and the over the top realism. FPS with only 1 life? Yes ******* please.
SC's FPS mod got delayed indefinitely. As a Dust player, I can only imagine why.
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Posted - 2015.08.05 19:25:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Leither Yiltron wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Starlight Burner wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Basically, what it comes down to, is CSMs and EVE devs mostly care about EVE players, much like CPMs and DUST devs mostly care about DUST players. The sweet spot of mutual interest will happen someday but that day isn't today. Talk to regular EVE players, that's going to get you much further than trying to convince CSM to take our wishes over those of their own community. Shame, well CCP has 9 months to put something together; because my patience for a great Space Sci-fi game is running out. Last bet is on SC since DUST isn't getting more involvement with EVE. Dat FPS mod though. SC is only going to be for a certain crowd though, given the high required specs for your PC, and the over the top realism. FPS with only 1 life? Yes ******* please. SC's FPS mod got delayed indefinitely. As a Dust player, I can only imagine why. Odd, considering the constant HUGE updates that RCI puts out on the FPS mod.... But hey, as a fellow DUST player, I understand the need to hoard and wear tinfoil. No judgement.
You mean like this one? https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14803-Letter-From-The-Chairman
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Posted - 2015.08.05 19:35:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:You do realize that nowhere in there does it say it's being delayed "indefinitely" right? Also, updates like this, and this and thisAll of which are more recent than your link
You've got me, I don't keep up with bad games on PC.
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Posted - 2015.08.05 19:43:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Leither Yiltron wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:You do realize that nowhere in there does it say it's being delayed "indefinitely" right? Also, updates like this, and this and thisAll of which are more recent than your link You've got me, I don't keep up with bad games on PC. Lmfao you just made my day :D You adorable little tin-foil burrito you.
That's good. You made my day with how quickly you needed to defend a terrible game like Star Citizen. I don't really understand how you follow not one, but two bad games on a day to day basis. Is it hard? I mean Dust is bad, but at least it's RELEASED bad, and didn't need to pander to the lowest IQ portion of the gaming sector to boot up a Kickstarter.
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Posted - 2015.08.05 22:20:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:
Ooh, you even spout baseless assumptions :3. You're the best. I don't follow DUST, I just waste time on the forums specifically for people like you. My response literally took me 3 minutes to find links on their site.
You don't follow Dust but you're still on the forums? Isn't that even worse? I mean that's a real one-two punch. You're silly enough to think that SC is going anywhere, AND you just hang around the Dust forums.
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