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Thor Odinson42
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Posted - 2015.08.02 16:13:00 -
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MockHolliday wrote:How easy is it for an alt corp to collect CP? If the CP is hard to earn these attacks would dry up rather quickly. I think a real solution is no show corps will be frozen for 'x' amount of days. Maybe 3?
You no show, you cant attack, maybe even have a progressive punishment. Chasing CP with alt corps is annoying and a time drain. it would subside.
Perhaps put the corp on "probation" and charge normal clone pack prices for repeated no shows.
I think we are stuck with this now though, perhaps getting the DK market open would have shown the peasants something worth fighting for. |
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Posted - 2015.08.03 22:53:00 -
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Devadander wrote:I have two attacks for sale ATM, 40 million each.
How's that for sandbox?
I'll give you 10 mil just to know who would be stupid enough to pay that.
And congrats on taking over Contraban Joe's long held "Biggest D-bag in Dust" title. |
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Posted - 2015.08.03 23:15:00 -
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Devadander wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Devadander wrote:I have two attacks for sale ATM, 40 million each.
How's that for sandbox? I'll give you 10 mil just to know who would be stupid enough to pay that. And congrats on taking over Contraban Joe's long held "Biggest D-bag in Dust" title. Nobody can take that from him.
CBJ isn't on the forums trying to convince people that no showing battles is good. He's launching plenty of no shows, but at least he's self respecting enough to not brag about it.
I think the answer to the no shows should be no showing. If you take the district, you can't launch anymore free attacks.
One thing is for certain, the people that do this constantly will never be allowed to hold land, ever. |
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Posted - 2015.08.03 23:47:00 -
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Then quit talking like no showing over and over again is good for anything. People would have given their right nut for these mechanics two years ago.
But this ****** playerbase just launches no show attacks.
Pubs - Garbage, nobody fights FW- Garbage, too many AFKers PC- Garbage, too many no shows
I just wish people liked to shoot guns in this FPS. |
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Posted - 2015.08.04 01:16:00 -
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Devadander wrote:I'll step OOC and be helpful. The small timers have no idea what to do with cp. I have a plan to introduce them slowly to raiding, others like it and we are trying to get some steam to it. Please be patient. Weaponized boredom should be a thing. Should it be a thing like it is now? No. Instead of trying to get it changed, what you really need/want are people to fight. Which is where alot of no shows come from. People don't know what to do, especially against top corps. People don't understand raiding, and how it can be profitable. With all the cp being earned there's a lot of potential. Willing to bet some of these no shows come from people with grudges. That can't be helped. All it takes is a couple channels and pc could get fairly exciting again. I will do my part in my fave channels and local, but that won't change the universe too much. Back to being a surly stubborn space mercenary.
How about field the attacks?
Contact some corps that you know have good FCs and ask them to bring a squad and help setup the team. It'll cost you, but it would give you some solid things to build on. If you show you are serious about PC you will find plenty of people to help out.
The tone of this quoted post is much different from your early posts on the subject.
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Posted - 2015.08.04 01:42:00 -
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Devadander wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Devadander wrote:I'll step OOC and be helpful. The small timers have no idea what to do with cp. I have a plan to introduce them slowly to raiding, others like it and we are trying to get some steam to it. Please be patient. Weaponized boredom should be a thing. Should it be a thing like it is now? No. Instead of trying to get it changed, what you really need/want are people to fight. Which is where alot of no shows come from. People don't know what to do, especially against top corps. People don't understand raiding, and how it can be profitable. With all the cp being earned there's a lot of potential. Willing to bet some of these no shows come from people with grudges. That can't be helped. All it takes is a couple channels and pc could get fairly exciting again. I will do my part in my fave channels and local, but that won't change the universe too much. Back to being a surly stubborn space mercenary. How about field the attacks? Contact some corps that you know have good FCs and ask them to bring a squad and help setup the team. It'll cost you, but it would give you some solid things to build on. If you show you are serious about PC you will find plenty of people to help out. The tone of this quoted post is much different from your early posts on the subject. I honestly don't want to own a district. I was thinking more of the small corps just need to get together in channels and field teams with their cp. I like raiding. Easy, quick, pays good if you play right. Hooked after last night. Stop making me be constructive
I don't get this.
If you earn the first district, I don't care who you are, that will matter. Even if it doesn't matter to you, it will matter to someone who helped you earn it. Maybe those people are the ones that will forge the new breed of competitive players in Dust.
You are a ****** CEO if you have a corp with a tax rate and fail to provide your members with the flood of content recently made available in PC 2.0. With FW Apex suits trade able corps should be encouraging FW syncs, it gets your players thinking like a team and it generates a steady income for your players. The Apex suits themselves give CEOs a built in skill plan for their new players. With the CP earned, you have the chance to earn your players DK by getting them PC battles.
It sucks that people aren't taking advantage of it. I hate being right on this one. Incentives for winning anything have been so pathetic for so long that there's hardly any competition left. |
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Posted - 2015.08.04 01:59:00 -
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Good for you, but I think you should adopt a small one to help out your dedicated vehicle pilots in PC battles if you continue to pursue PC. Not that you are asking, just my opinion. |
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Posted - 2015.08.04 05:58:00 -
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Devadander wrote:I am the operator. We're a group of about 8 buds in a casual corp. Me and my directors are loaded from assets/long time play. We play pubs in mostly bpo to keep it real and keep isk positive.
This is most of the corps that don't pc.
We really don't want to be tied to defending a district constantly. Raiding is fun and lucrative. (More than pubs/fw anyway) I don't want to lead any revolutions honestly.
I see some 1v16 matches in my future. Can't wait.
And still think no-show is a valid tactic. Just not so much for me.
Understandable, but it seems you guys are doing more with 8 than some with hundreds. If you want to thrash somebody I can point you in the right direction for a team. Either way, have fun. |
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Posted - 2015.08.04 21:12:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Devadander wrote:I am the operator. We're a group of about 8 buds in a casual corp. Me and my directors are loaded from assets/long time play. We play pubs in mostly bpo to keep it real and keep isk positive.
This is most of the corps that don't pc.
We really don't want to be tied to defending a district constantly. Raiding is fun and lucrative. (More than pubs/fw anyway) I don't want to lead any revolutions honestly.
I see some 1v16 matches in my future. Can't wait.
And still think no-show is a valid tactic. Just not so much for me. Understandable, but it seems you guys are doing more with 8 than some with hundreds. If you want to thrash somebody I can point you in the right direction for a team. Either way, have fun. Is that what this is about? You guys are hoping for fresh blood in the PC game since you're all too sick of playing together/against one another so you need the fresh blood so you can extort payment for ringing out of the new guys? I still find it amusing how much people complain about lag and [FILL_IN_THE_BLANK] ARE OP NERF! NERF!! and then try to say that this game is meant to be competitive. Last night there was a thread about BlOps2 and how it (or any other COD) never lags but Dust lags terrible. This game is a game, it is meant to be fun. It is no where near competitive now and nor will it ever be until we're playing it on LANs or have literally instant telecomms.I just think it is hilarious how the chest beaters get over this game when there are other things that can (and should) be used for chest beating purposes rather than this game we all play.
So we should all hide in the redline because only the bad players lag a lot?
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Posted - 2015.08.04 21:19:00 -
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Devadander wrote:Sad truth is we all know about pc macros, throttling, web tethers, equipment spam, suit changing constantly, explosion spam, general nastiness.
The ability to pay for ringers, bribes, eve support, unlimited ads/HAV, etc.
All time zones covered.
Even with an A game, nobody can compete...
I'll bet alot of these no shows are from farm corps, probably people you know and don't very much care for. Some would say it was asked for.
After years of blue donut style control, what do you expect? Already gathering to discuss changes to a system put in place to wear you down...
I'll be done with this game.
I get the animosity toward PC players and the fact that so few dominated so much. But those mechanics were CCP's fault. They ignored team play until the playerbase as a whole has no clue how to play as a team.
These current mechanics allow people to do multiple PCs a day for free (clone packs), get DK, and get ISK even in a loss. There's nothing to lose. You can't help but get better if you try. |
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