DUST Search - ULTRA OFFICER DROPSUIT.

Avallo Kantor wrote:

What you are suggesting is a form of power creep, adding more and more powerful options that are flat out better than others.

This is something one should try to avoid in game development, not encourage, as it leads to a situation where the gap between the best and worst quality gear grows even more.

Encouraging power creep is never a good idea, and instead one should always try to offer alternative means of powering up, aka means of power that are trade offs or new abilities instead of flat power increase.

EVE online has been able to, for the most part, avoid direct power creep after the introduction of titans, and has always kept it such that officer gear is the best available module. (Although as many ALODs have shown that does not match up against skill, and can prove foolish to pay for)

Ideally, I would argue DUST should be the same way with Officer tier being the best possible gear to get for a given situation with new items and power only being either gear between proto and officer (such as experimental) or new forms of power that are not directly comparable.

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Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 1	Posted - 2015.08.01 21:45:00 - [1] - Quote How about spicing up officer gear by adding a new suit, but it's not just ANY SUIT. Would there be any possible way that we could see a Jove assault? This could be the rarest and most op suit of the suits. Stats could look like so- 5 highs 5 lows 1.5 more m/s speed 100+ armor 100+ shields 30+ rep 30+ recharge 2 equipment slots 2 light weapons 1 sidearm 20 profile 40 precision 20m range 5% damage bonus to all weapons. CEO of 48SOF - "The Trading Corp"
Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 805	Posted - 2015.08.01 21:48:00 - [2] - Quote That would be pretty Badass... I still wish we had Jove Weapons. They would only show up in the fitting screen as unclassified Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!! a¦á_a¦á Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
Georgia Xavier Incorruptibles 1	Posted - 2015.08.01 21:54:00 - [3] - Quote The **** would their damage type be?! Anti matter?!+20/+20?! Click for an instant good day! (or atleast cheer you up a bit)
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 10	Posted - 2015.08.01 21:56:00 - [4] - Quote Georgia Xavier wrote: The **** would their damage type be?! Anti matter?!+20/+20?! that would be plasma. Gallente blasters and Caldari rails often load antimatter charges. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
benandjerrys Vader's-Fist 441	Posted - 2015.08.01 21:57:00 - [5] - Quote That's not so far from the truth and it would be isogen 5 ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR Support Dust/EvE cross content We need live events discussion
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y 861	Posted - 2015.08.01 21:58:00 - [6] - Quote I don't know about all that, but I would like the other class/races to have officer suits. The C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, (~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~)
Arkena Wyrnspire Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 25	Posted - 2015.08.01 22:22:00 - [7] - Quote Jovian dropsuits are never going to be a thing. Ever. Compare the Eidolon to any empire battleship in EVE to see why. Arkena Wyrnspire - CPM2 candidate
Dreis ShadowWeaver Corrosive Synergy No Context 6	Posted - 2015.08.01 22:30:00 - [8] - Quote How would one skill into it? Would there be a Jovian Skilltree? That would be epic. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 807	Posted - 2015.08.01 22:30:00 - [9] - Quote But still no Photon.. Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!! a¦á_a¦á Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
The Eristic Vader's-Fist 1	Posted - 2015.08.01 23:08:00 - [10] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: How would one skill into it? Make it a universal BPC skin or powercore that you slap onto an existing proto suit to mutate it into a "Jovian Modified xk.0". Should also require Dropsuit Command V & Dropsuit Upgrades V with the four main cores + Elec/Eng V. Introduce 10 maximum into the game via boxes or salvage and make it so they only change hands as an EoM drop when lost in battle. Maybe give it a "decay timer" for usage, too, so people can't sit on them forever. Reality is the original Rorschach. Verily! So much for all that.

Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 1	Posted - 2015.08.01 23:23:00 - [11] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: How would one skill into it? Would there be a Jovian Skilltree? That would be epic. Any assault to proto and dropsuit command to 5. It's super rare anyways. CEO of 48SOF - "The Trading Corp"
Sicerly Yaw Corrosive Synergy No Context 750	Posted - 2015.08.01 23:24:00 - [12] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: How would one skill into it? Would there be a Jovian Skilltree? That would be epic. skill every drop suit to max along with all cores and only then be able to skill into Jovian skilltree each level requires 1.5 mill with every level increasing 1600% and that's only for the basic frames click here if you are making a new account and want some free BPO's
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 8	Posted - 2015.08.01 23:49:00 - [13] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: How would one skill into it? Would there be a Jovian Skilltree? That would be epic. You need every frame skill to V. *Scouts United* Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.08.01 23:52:00 - [14] - Quote Don't give CCP the idea please. They will come up with pay X aurum to get it Loyal to The State Official Caldari Commando User
Louis Domi Tugastroy Evil Syndicate Alliance. 1	Posted - 2015.08.02 00:05:00 - [15] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: How about spicing up officer gear by adding a new suit, but it's not just ANY SUIT. Would there be any possible way that we could see a Jove assault? This could be the rarest and most op suit of the suits. Stats could look like so- 5 highs 5 lows 1.5 more m/s speed 100+ armor 100+ shields 30+ rep 30+ recharge 2 equipment slots 2 light weapons 1 sidearm 20 profile 40 precision 20m range 5% damage bonus to all weapons. A jove suit would be none of this... It would instead be 0 hp max... And 10000% resistance to any and all weapons... *Delt for CPM2, Shadowed Cola for CPM2, Breaking For CPM2*
Kalante Schiffer Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2015.08.02 00:07:00 - [16] - Quote 30+ rep? why not 140+? Every game gets ruined by the casuals sooner or later. ESO s*cks nothing but constant delay.
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 1	Posted - 2015.08.02 00:09:00 - [17] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: 30+ rep? why not 140+? Heck why not. And say, can I have your stash of your rifles??? CEO of 48SOF - "The Trading Corp"
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 779	Posted - 2015.08.02 01:26:00 - [18] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: How about spicing up officer gear by adding a new suit, but it's not just ANY SUIT. Would there be any possible way that we could see a Jove assault? This could be the rarest and most op suit of the suits. Stats could look like so- 5 highs 5 lows 1.5 more m/s speed 100+ armor 100+ shields 100+ rep 100+ recharge 0 charge delay 2 equipment slots 2 light weapons 1 sidearm 20 profile 40 precision 20m range 5% damage bonus to all weapons. That would be one hell of a suit ! But wait.. 1 RE/Large Blaster Tank/ OB and it's gone forever :'( WON'T YOU PLEASE TAKE ME HOME ! -Sequal Rise
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 1	Posted - 2015.08.02 01:30:00 - [19] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: How about spicing up officer gear by adding a new suit, but it's not just ANY SUIT. Would there be any possible way that we could see a Jove assault? This could be the rarest and most op suit of the suits. Stats could look like so- 5 highs 5 lows 1.5 more m/s speed 100+ armor 100+ shields 100+ rep 100+ recharge 0 charge delay 2 equipment slots 2 light weapons 1 sidearm 20 profile 40 precision 20m range 5% damage bonus to all weapons. That would be one hell of a suit ! But wait.. 1 RE/Large Blaster Tank/ OB and it's gone forever :'( YES ONE HELL OF A SUIT, but if you tank the hell of it, it can survive a rail hit and rep back up. As for the blaster tank, this suit has LOTS OF REP AND SPEED so it shouldn't be to hard to dodge find cover. Obs are the problem. And lav rammers CEO of 48SOF - "The Trading Corp"
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 780	Posted - 2015.08.02 01:47:00 - [20] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Sequal's Back wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: How about spicing up officer gear by adding a new suit, but it's not just ANY SUIT. Would there be any possible way that we could see a Jove assault? This could be the rarest and most op suit of the suits. Stats could look like so- 5 highs 5 lows 1.5 more m/s speed 100+ armor 100+ shields 100+ rep 100+ recharge 0 charge delay 2 equipment slots 2 light weapons 1 sidearm 20 profile 40 precision 20m range 5% damage bonus to all weapons. That would be one hell of a suit ! But wait.. 1 RE/Large Blaster Tank/ OB and it's gone forever :'( YES ONE HELL OF A SUIT, but if you tank the hell of it, it can survive a rail hit and rep back up. As for the blaster tank, this suit has LOTS OF REP AND SPEED so it shouldn't be to hard to dodge find cover. Obs are the problem. And lav rammers Imagine if you get glitched into a wall or commit suicide with this suit on... I'd have to buy a new controller. WON'T YOU PLEASE TAKE ME HOME ! -Sequal Rise

Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 1	Posted - 2015.08.02 02:01:00 - [21] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Sequal's Back wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: How about spicing up officer gear by adding a new suit, but it's not just ANY SUIT. Would there be any possible way that we could see a Jove assault? This could be the rarest and most op suit of the suits. Stats could look like so- 5 highs 5 lows 1.5 more m/s speed 100+ armor 100+ shields 100+ rep 100+ recharge 0 charge delay 2 equipment slots 2 light weapons 1 sidearm 20 profile 40 precision 20m range 5% damage bonus to all weapons. That would be one hell of a suit ! But wait.. 1 RE/Large Blaster Tank/ OB and it's gone forever :'( YES ONE HELL OF A SUIT, but if you tank the hell of it, it can survive a rail hit and rep back up. As for the blaster tank, this suit has LOTS OF REP AND SPEED so it shouldn't be to hard to dodge find cover. Obs are the problem. And lav rammers Imagine if you get glitched into a wall or commit suicide with this suit on... I'd have to buy a new controller. I get the hitched part. I don't see how you would commit suicide on the field. Rep is to high to die. It's 200 per second. (Shield and armor) CEO of 48SOF - "The Trading Corp"
emm kay Direct Action Resources 379	Posted - 2015.08.02 02:15:00 - [22] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: How about spicing up officer gear by adding a new suit, but it's not just ANY SUIT. Would there be any possible way that we could see a Jove assault? But just the officer suit. This could be the rarest and most op suit of the suits. Stats could look like so- 5 highs 5 lows 2 more m/s speed 300 stamina pool 2m jump hight. 100+ armor 100+ shields 100+ rep 100+ recharge 0 charge delay 2 equipment slots 2 light weapons 1 sidearm 20 profile 40 precision 20m range 5% damage bonus to all weapons. no. and no. jovian ships use low skill high-reward system. think proto min assault with no skill requirement. There is a reason you never see me in battle. it's because I see you first.
Avallo Kantor 852	Posted - 2015.08.02 02:47:00 - [23] - Quote What you are suggesting is a form of power creep, adding more and more powerful options that are flat out better than others. This is something one should try to avoid in game development, not encourage, as it leads to a situation where the gap between the best and worst quality gear grows even more. Encouraging power creep is never a good idea, and instead one should always try to offer alternative means of powering up, aka means of power that are trade offs or new abilities instead of flat power increase. EVE online has been able to, for the most part, avoid direct power creep after the introduction of titans, and has always kept it such that officer gear is the best available module. (Although as many ALODs have shown that does not match up against skill, and can prove foolish to pay for) Ideally, I would argue DUST should be the same way with Officer tier being the best possible gear to get for a given situation with new items and power only being either gear between proto and officer (such as experimental) or new forms of power that are not directly comparable. "Mind Blown" - CCP Rattati
LT SHANKS You In The Nutz 6	Posted - 2015.08.02 03:43:00 - [24] - Quote Two light weapon and one sidearm slot? Why not three Heavy Weapon slots? FG, HMG, RR combo all day long.
I-Shayz-I I----------I 6	Posted - 2015.08.02 06:11:00 - [25] - Quote The biggest question is not how OP it is, but how you would obtain such a suit. If it is more OP than the balac's, then you need to have a way to earn it that is more difficult than the tournament. In other words, a tournament that went all the way down to 4v4, 2v2, or even 1v1. Basically a "winner takes all" scenario where 4 or less people will be able to have it. ____________________________________________________ Although honestly, I would rather have a suit with a heavy slot and an equipment. Being able to use an HMG with a repair tool would be my wishful officer suit. 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! -- Vote for Cross!
Count- -Crotchula Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 211	Posted - 2015.08.02 21:33:00 - [26] - Quote I have an ultra rare officers dropsuit already! it's called Balac's Modified ck.0 but it's broken! I'll sell all 3 of them once they're fixed!
Count- -Crotchula Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 211	Posted - 2015.08.02 21:33:00 - [27] - Quote Avallo Kantor wrote: What you are suggesting is a form of power creep, adding more and more powerful options that are flat out better than others. This is something one should try to avoid in game development, not encourage, as it leads to a situation where the gap between the best and worst quality gear grows even more. Encouraging power creep is never a good idea, and instead one should always try to offer alternative means of powering up, aka means of power that are trade offs or new abilities instead of flat power increase. EVE online has been able to, for the most part, avoid direct power creep after the introduction of titans, and has always kept it such that officer gear is the best available module. (Although as many ALODs have shown that does not match up against skill, and can prove foolish to pay for) Ideally, I would argue DUST should be the same way with Officer tier being the best possible gear to get for a given situation with new items and power only being either gear between proto and officer (such as experimental) or new forms of power that are not directly comparable. I have never heard of that term before but it's a bit late for that!


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