DUST Search - Proto tanks in pubs

Tesfa Alem wrote:

Bar Be wrote:

But man they can be annoying. Driving around with their hardeners on, running to the red line before they turn off.

I seem to be on a roll of matches with at least one proto madruger running around. Not sure what newer players are supposed to do about them.

I do have sympathy for new bros, but that sympathy runs up to a point. Dont engage them, evade them.

There are lots of areas where you can move to avoid blaster tanks, without having the suit or weapons to engage them. Moving inside of rooms, getting onto high floors, looking around before you cross open areas, especially if you see a tank icon on your radar. Every dropsuit picks 'em up on thier tacnet at 80 m. That gives you roughly 4 seconds to get the hell out of dodge.

Thats where playing experience matters far more than stats.I'd reccomend players to try out some somas. Once you get a feel for the map areas you can't engage with a soma, those are the same areas you'll learn to move to on foot, when that inevitiable gv.0 rears its ugly head.

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Bar Be Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 143	Posted - 2015.08.01 21:43:00 - [1] - Quote Seeing a lot of them. Anyone else?
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y 861	Posted - 2015.08.01 21:56:00 - [2] - Quote Nah, not too many. Usually me and my buddies team up and destroy them in moments when we see one. That usually puts a stop to it for the round. Well, they usually stop, leave battle, or call out more. In the case of the latter, really it's just helping our paycheck at the end, you need group support if your going to tank, otherwise your going to be overwhelmed by AV and as we all know, a good portion of dust sees group support as a foreign concept The C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, (~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~)
Bar Be Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 143	Posted - 2015.08.01 22:04:00 - [3] - Quote But man they can be annoying. Driving around with their hardeners on, running to the red line before they turn off. I seem to be on a roll of matches with at least one proto madruger running around. Not sure what newer players are supposed to do about them.
Luka the otter Bragian Order Amarr Empire 41	Posted - 2015.08.01 22:14:00 - [4] - Quote The unfortunate thing about tanks in pubs is that with the reduced squad size for pubs it's more difficult to organize a counter for tanks. With a squad size of six it would be easy enough to dispatch two or three guys to deal with it while the rest held a point or did some other team based shenanigans, like lubing up the sentinel's HMG. With 'fireteams' now being the only squad you can send into pubs, tanks can hold their own much more easily because it's send the whole fireteam or no one at all. It's not like the randoms running solo can coordinate to take it out. And considering a large majority of players prefer just shooting infantry, you don't have too many people who are actually skilled with AV to help take down the tank, including people in your own squad, and will instead just play a game of keep away whenever one rears its head. On the rare occasion you do have a random blue pulling out AV to try to keep the tank at bay, it's usually just the one guy having a showdown with heavy artillery. Heavy artillery usually wins, unless they're just a kill padding ***** who can't take so much as catching the edge of a plasma cannon blast before running crying into the redlines.
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 1	Posted - 2015.08.01 22:18:00 - [5] - Quote Bar Be wrote: But man they can be annoying. Driving around with their hardeners on, running to the red line before they turn off. I seem to be on a roll of matches with at least one proto madruger running around. Not sure what newer players are supposed to do about them. I do have sympathy for new bros, but that sympathy runs up to a point. Dont engage them, evade them. There are lots of areas where you can move to avoid blaster tanks, without having the suit or weapons to engage them. Moving inside of rooms, getting onto high floors, looking around before you cross open areas, especially if you see a tank icon on your radar. Every dropsuit picks 'em up on thier tacnet at 80 m. That gives you roughly 4 seconds to get the hell out of dodge. Thats where playing experience matters far more than stats.I'd reccomend players to try out some somas. Once you get a feel for the map areas you can't engage with a soma, those are the same areas you'll learn to move to on foot, when that inevitiable gv.0 rears its ugly head. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me. "I sometimes wonder why I share stuff "- CCP Rattati vote Tesfa for CPM2
The KTM DuKe 0uter.Heaven 502	Posted - 2015.08.01 22:26:00 - [6] - Quote Bar Be wrote: Seeing a lot of them. Anyone else? I rarely play with my tanker alt but when i do it i like to read gv.0, isk are meant to be used Send your hatemails after the "bip". When i joined 0.H i started use lagswitch, turbopad and more to come, LoooL
Dreis ShadowWeaver Corrosive Synergy No Context 6	Posted - 2015.08.01 22:31:00 - [7] - Quote It's because Proto Tanks are the only viable Tanks on the battlefield; all other tiers get #rekt. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
Bremen van Equis Incorruptibles 605	Posted - 2015.08.01 23:03:00 - [8] - Quote 48-0 in an acquisition = broken. We were beating on that thing collectively and could hardly even register dmg WP. Buckle up, boysGÇªthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
Sicerly Yaw Corrosive Synergy No Context 750	Posted - 2015.08.01 23:11:00 - [9] - Quote Bar Be wrote: Seeing a lot of them. Anyone else? if its a problem I may be able to help, when tanks started becoming a problem I didn't know how to pop them but after about a a few days of looking over their weaknesses i figured out a few ways to deal with them most of these tactics require certain skills, but I've made due with what I had available at the time if you cant find any other way to deal with them I suggest to skill into vehicle turret upgrades stacking 3 enhanced damage mods and a complex heat sink on a sica is enough to take out all if not most proto tanks, I will warn you that if they have rail or missiles you will drop way faster then you can drop them so get the jump on them and only spawn in at a safe distance also even if they do only have blasters be careful because maddies have better top speed and easily accelerate faster due to fuel injectors, if its not a double hardened fit it should go down in no more then 3 shots otherwise it might take up to 9 and you only get a small window of opportunity before your mods run out and have to recharge with this fit but its fairly cheap and a coordinated squad can take out multiple tanks easily you will more then likely have to use CPU mods so skilling into vehicle core upgrades is encouraged at least to the third level other ways to kill proto tanks include using a mixed variety of flux nades, AV nades, packed RE's and various other resources such as minor flux strikes and AV weaponry to complement one another my fit is a std gladius (you can use gunnies too but I prefer solo tanks) with 3 enhanced damage mods a complex heat sink an enhanced heavy shiled plate to survive an extra hit from rails, two enhanced CPU mods, and an enhanced rail turret just checked the fitting for a sica, 3 enhanced rail mods and a complex heat sink with all std rails just barely makes it without having to use any cpu mods, you only have 37 cpu left over and no low slot mods, but using one std cpu mods allows for the use of a basic 120mm armor plate, I will remind you that the mods apply to all rails not just the main large rail so if you have two passengers helping it may be possible to deal massive amounts of damge before they can react click here if you are making a new account and want some free BPO's
Sicerly Yaw Corrosive Synergy No Context 750	Posted - 2015.08.01 23:12:00 - [10] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: Bar Be wrote: But man they can be annoying. Driving around with their hardeners on, running to the red line before they turn off. I seem to be on a roll of matches with at least one proto madruger running around. Not sure what newer players are supposed to do about them. I do have sympathy for new bros, but that sympathy runs up to a point. Dont engage them, evade them. There are lots of areas where you can move to avoid blaster tanks, without having the suit or weapons to engage them. Moving inside of rooms, getting onto high floors, looking around before you cross open areas, especially if you see a tank icon on your radar. Every dropsuit picks 'em up on thier tacnet at 80 m. That gives you roughly 4 seconds to get the hell out of dodge. Thats where playing experience matters far more than stats.I'd reccomend players to try out some somas. Once you get a feel for the map areas you can't engage with a soma, those are the same areas you'll learn to move to on foot, when that inevitiable gv.0 rears its ugly head. or you know you can jump on top of them with nova knifes like I do till they get scared and jump out to try and kill me click here if you are making a new account and want some free BPO's

Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 3	Posted - 2015.08.01 23:13:00 - [11] - Quote Officer AV in Pubs Seeing a lot of them. Anyone else?
Bar Be Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 143	Posted - 2015.08.01 23:39:00 - [12] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Officer AV in Pubs Seeing a lot of them. Anyone else? Not noticed - I don't tank. Seeing lots of officer gear in general though. Mostly surprised how much ISK people throw into pubs. But I guess you've got to spend it somehow...
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.08.01 23:44:00 - [13] - Quote Since officer stuff is cheap, people will use it. Myself included. Maybe one day, people will queue for something else than domination. Maybe they will get bored of Agimus spam. Loyal to The State Official Caldari Commando User
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet RUST415 317	Posted - 2015.08.02 01:27:00 - [14] - Quote Bar Be wrote: Seeing a lot of them. Anyone else? I've actually been running basic much more often. Makes losing one far less painful. =ƒÿæ
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 780	Posted - 2015.08.02 01:34:00 - [15] - Quote Bar Be wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Officer AV in Pubs Seeing a lot of them. Anyone else? Not noticed - I don't tank. Seeing lots of officer gear in general though. Mostly surprised how much ISK people throw into pubs. But I guess you've got to spend it somehow... Actually, if you're playing PC, using officer gear isn't recommended (against good corp) cause you'll get killed without enjoying the gear. On pubs or FW, you can have these interesting fights where you are dominating, but the enemies aren't giving up and these ones are worth using officer gear! WON'T YOU PLEASE TAKE ME HOME ! -Sequal Rise
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 2	Posted - 2015.08.02 04:16:00 - [16] - Quote Bremen van Equis wrote: 48-0 in an acquisition = broken. We were beating on that thing collectively and could hardly even register dmg WP. A single game or every game? Big difference. A CPM2 Candidate! More info KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
DAAAA BEAST Corrosive Synergy 2	Posted - 2015.08.02 04:25:00 - [17] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Bremen van Equis wrote: 48-0 in an acquisition = broken. We were beating on that thing collectively and could hardly even register dmg WP. A single game or every game? Big difference. Well it was AP Grasshopper who made me his b*tch with his hardened blaster and 2 railgun sidegunned tanks. BvE was there. My AV form A/FG wasn't enough. Needed more support. Something fun that I haven't done in this game yet ? No Chance Minmatar Loyalist
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.08.02 04:33:00 - [18] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Officer AV in Pubs Seeing a lot of them. Anyone else? Yeah you make a very good point. I see a lot more high tier AV on field even if I am just rolling around in low tier HAV and more recently a lot moer Beacon's Swarm Launchers. The simple thing this all comes down to is arms race. The higher the tier weapon or HAV you bring out the higher tier counter you can expect to be brought against you. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 1	Posted - 2015.08.02 17:07:00 - [19] - Quote DAAAA BEAST wrote: KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Bremen van Equis wrote: 48-0 in an acquisition = broken. We were beating on that thing collectively and could hardly even register dmg WP. A single game or every game? Big difference. Well it was AP Grasshopper who made me his b*tch with his hardened blaster and 2 railgun sidegunned tanks. BvE was there. My AV form A/FG wasn't enough. Needed more support. AP Grasshopper is a really, really good tanker. Definitley need good teamwork and a solid plan to take him down. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me. "I sometimes wonder why I share stuff "- CCP Rattati vote Tesfa for CPM2
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 3	Posted - 2015.08.02 17:18:00 - [20] - Quote If all else fails and you are solo, try using good RE`s. Set a trap and be patient! Bait the tanker into your trap with a juicy kill (or so he thinks) then boom! It works especially well if the tanker doesn't realise that you have RE`s and he does not see any sort of AV in your hands. "Madness how we turned our common-ground into a battle-ground.." - Essa

DEATH THE KlD Imperfect - Bastards 279	Posted - 2015.08.02 17:26:00 - [21] - Quote Just the same ol fotm chasers chasing high ground and not trying to win.."incentive" Tanks I blew up 7 1 match and lost none...my fully mlt tank cost 70-80k and destroyed 2 adv tanks and 5 mlt/std..it was awesome like both sides were spamming tanks and kept going for eachother and no one cared about the infantry..aww man it was such a fun match
Louis Domi Tugastroy Evil Syndicate Alliance. 1	Posted - 2015.08.02 19:21:00 - [22] - Quote Tank trap tactic: Hiding in patience for the opportunity Get some Proxy RE, Lay them out where there is alot of tank traffic, or a place where you suspect the tank will come. Don't engage tank until he runs over RE(He probably won't have his Hardeners on if he's just driving around) Make sure no one engages him before he gets to RE''s, if you do He'll put his hardeners and run like a ***. After he runs over RE's finish him with 3 packed AV grenades and if he still lives(Probably by a little hp if any) hit him with a PLC. Best to use all proto especially Lai dais for this Also when he hits the RE's He'll most likely nitro backwards so you might wanna be behind him when that happens So you get a better opportunity for the extra barrage. If the tank see's you, don't worry, he probably hasn't seen the RE's yet, so you can try to bait him with weak AV make him come to you and boom 150, if he has seen the RE's or someone scans the RE's go back into hiding and try again later Patience is key This is my best AV solo tactic, I've harvested lots of tank tears with this. Most tanks get killed by the RE's alone, but if you're not able to throw down a trap, the Lai dais and PLC alone is enough to kill most tanks.. Results may vary for Proto Cal Tank, seeing these are rare enough and they like to keep to their redline so it's hard to lay a trap on these S.O.Bs. (This is for a scout btw, need to be sneaky when passing out those Proxy RE's and hiding in the shadows like some predator stalking his prey. You probably can use another class, but if the tank or enemy team spots/scans you its over they be on you like white on rice) Stay safe on those deadly tank streets and may our love for explosions hasten your steps o' young warrior Delt for CPM2, Shadowed Cola for CPM2, Breaking For CPM2**
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.08.02 19:52:00 - [23] - Quote About single hardened blaster tanks. I'm driving in one and I know and experienced that you can't survive 3 shot from damage buffed Railgun. Loyal to The State Official Caldari Commando User
Louis Domi Tugastroy Evil Syndicate Alliance. 1	Posted - 2015.08.02 19:58:00 - [24] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: About single hardened blaster tanks. I'm driving in one and I know and experienced that you can't survive 3 shot from damage buffed Railgun. Another problem with tanks: Even though it's hard for pretty much all AV A mlt Damage buffed Rail tank always get the job done better, easier, and cheaper... Something wrong with that ** Delt for CPM2, Shadowed Cola for CPM2, Breaking For CPM2**
Count- -Crotchula Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 211	Posted - 2015.08.02 20:57:00 - [25] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Since officer stuff is cheap, people will use it. Myself included. Maybe one day, people will queue for something else than domination. Maybe they will get bored of Agimus spam. one day but probably not.


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