same ****, they enable you to do more. Lowering TTK in any way means you're able to do less. Lowering the value actually may mean i use the other mods less because you're making HP more valuable.

But the other way around? More HP on mods means i only need one or two and can do other things with the free space :)

same ****, they enable you to do more. Lowering TTK in any way means you're able to do less. Lowering the value actually may mean i use the other mods less because you're making HP more valuable.

But the other way around? More HP on mods means i only need one or two and can do other things with the free space :)

lol, if I can get my suit to 1000 EHP, i'd have the longevity needed to sustain all sorts of fire fights and be able to move around, and i'd have my extra slots doing other things.

while that 2000EHP stacked player only has one thing going for him - he's a tank.

HP at a point becomes less valuable then versatility you seem to desire.

That's why I don't run speed mods on Amarr or Gal suits. Just run ferros and take advantage of your high base stats.

Triple Ferro Dual Rep fits are deceptively strong in tank, speed, and regen. Couple with a bit of shield to counter RR and CR a bit, and slap on some damage mods for flat damage bonuses.

This is how you slay. Not by brick tanking.

Because he wants the old assault scouts back basically.

I want to have high regen and speed and not get instakilled.

Yeah, I remember that time in PC, I'd rather not go back to it.

Care to put this to the test?

I'll let you pick my suit, weapon, whatever you like. feel free to beat me in a 1v1. Use a tank if you want, idc. but i get to choose how i set the mods.

Tomorrow around 0400 sound fine? And don't put me in a min scout - it's not fair to you how BS that suit is in 1v1's, lol.

That there's more then just a few viable fits to win a fight with. It's just some suit set ups can be consistent after one fight after another - while other suits are all about winning that one fight. IT's the approach and your inability to accept the versaility in front of you.

so i thought i'd smash you a few times by letting you pick my suit and weapon to prove the point. This being a team game enables a ton of options for players to do - it just requires team work to enable.

But even playing solo there's tons of ways to play a single role and be competitive - and that competitiveness can be enabled by your team mates further versatile and options available to you through communication.

People unwilling to use what's in front of them and want change on what they do use is half the problem i have with threads like these.

Look ma! Epeen!

Hey boot. You saying you're better means jack all. Especially when the topic is balance concerns.

The idiot is the person saying something is true then is unwilling to actually put it to test to prove it.

Put up or shut up, simple as that.

Allow me to say it better.

Market data bereft of kill/spawn and average fitting data is the equivalent of trying to determine which company to invest in by watching what people buy at the grocery store.

By itself there isn't enough data to make a determination, merely determine that there is some kind of trend.

It does not address WHY there is a trend. Nor does it provide any of the variables needed to determine a break point.

It is information in a vacuum, bereft of real content or context with which to see the wheole picture.

No balance decisions are made solely upon market data ever.

I rarely have more than 1 armor mod. Anyone who stacks armor and that'd it is just an easy target

Well it's not like most non hp related things are worth anything. Profile dampeners and extenders do so little it's not worth dying to have them equipped. Not to mention their nearly useless on certain types of drop suits, like a heavy with a dampener. On the other hand EVERYONE can make use of shield and armor related stuff. Pointing towards mod sales isn't really a great indicator of that.

By that logic we probably should buff scanners, I mean think of the sales of nano hives and rep tools compared to scanners? Every piece of gear doesn't have to be sold equally, as long as it still has a use.

Which is kind of what that problem with most the other high and low slot mods is. Range extenders, precision enhancers, dampeners, etc are nearly useless. Kin cats, stamina boosters etc are not to bad but cost way to much CPU/PG at higher levels.

Almost every level of the game has problems though. Logi equipment, especially proto nano hives cost way to much CPU/PG to be viable in most cases for what you get out of them. Never mind some of them you only get 3 of them instead of 6 despite being proto hives.

There are so many problems in regards to balance and making every piece of gear worth using in DUST I wouldn't even want the Dev's to try. I'd rather them work on bigger bugs, issues and porting the game to a new format so it's around in a year. After all what's the point of making the perfectly balanced game you all dream of, if it's not around after PS3 levels get so low the player base dries up?