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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.07.31 00:55:00 -
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Recently I've been greatly enjoying getting back into Dust for some reason unbeknownst to me while at the same time messing around in War Thunder Ground Forces with the Heavy Tanks and Tank Destroyers.
The latter are what inspired me to once more take up the Particle Cannon and really get involved in demolishing the maps and preventing enemy tanks from having a real place on the map. However I'm not really convinced I am doing it correctly and am looking for advice on what the more competitive fits for these Tank Destroyer fits are.
The other day I managed to steal a Gv.0 from another HAV pilot who used a fit, that I use now, which looks like the following.
Gv.0
3x Complex Railgun Damage Modules
1x Complex 120mm Armour Plate
1x Complex Armour Hardener
1x Complex Heavy Armour Repairer
and what I assume was a
1x Complex CPU Enhancer
I have refined this into
Gv.0
3x Standard Railgun Damage Modules
1x Advanced 120mm Armour Plate
2x Complex Armour Hardeners
1x Complex Heavy Armour Repairer
The second fit is fit with lower meta modules mainly because I have not heavily invested in Large Railgun Fitting Proficiency yet . This fit has had some success in running of Blaster HAV and even seeing off Xt-201 Missile fit Madrugars though it feels like an overly cumbersome HAV considering the number of Blaster and Missile Fit HAV I've seen running Nitrous Modules.
Suggestion to refine this fit would help immensely.
Additionally any Caldari Cv.0 Tank Destroyer Fits and MBT Fits would be appreciated since I want to move back into Shield HAV Operation.
PS: I'm still really pissed off that firing the Railgun does not yield an AoE kinetic blast wave.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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Maximus Mobius
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.07.31 01:00:00 -
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That can work only if you get the jump on a tanker. Face to face it is borderline sacrificial.
#Fallout4
Licensed Fallout lore master
Persona Non Grata
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.31 01:00:00 -
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Those fits are anything but Tank Destroyers ! xD Those aren't amusing fits.
Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!!
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.07.31 01:12:00 -
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Maximus Mobius wrote:That can work only if you get the jump on a tanker. Face to face it is borderline sacrificial.
That's not quite what I have found in the few days I have been deploying them however I do welcome insight into what is pushing it's way into the stop as top dog.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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ILYASS91
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.31 02:14:00 -
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This is my fit
Adv madrugar
1x particle cannon
2x complex damage mods
1x complex heat sink
1x adv heavy extender
1x complex hardener
1x complex heavy repairer
1x complex pg ( not sure on this one as im not on dust atm)
I only pull out this big boy when i need to get rid of some annoying proto maddies and me believe i kill 95% of them.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.07.31 02:30:00 -
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ILYASS91 wrote:This is my fit
Adv madrugar
1x particle cannon
2x complex damage mods
1x complex heat sink
1x adv heavy extender
1x complex hardener
1x complex heavy repairer
1x complex pg ( not sure on this one as im not on dust atm)
I only pull out this big boy when i need to get rid of some annoying proto maddies and me believe i kill 95% of them.
Goodluck.
Perfect. I figured that two Complex Damage Modules out provide more damage out put and a Sink would bump up my number of consecutive shots. So I am assuming while running these kinds of Destroyers you are sacrificing utility for sheer damage output and that because of this I need to be keeping myself on the edges of combat so I don't get blind sided up close.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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VAHZZ
Vader's-Fist
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Posted - 2015.07.31 02:33:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Maximus Mobius wrote:That can work only if you get the jump on a tanker. Face to face it is borderline sacrificial. That's not quite what I have found in the few days I have been deploying them however I do welcome insight into what is pushing it's way into the stop as top dog.
To be fair, you are an expert tanker. You know exactly what to do when a situation arises. So this masochistic fit, although situational, can be decent in the hands of someone who knows better.
As I said, this tank is pretty situational, my ahmg can tear a hole in it.
Director of Vader's Fist
I will show you fear in a handful of dust.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.07.31 02:38:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:True Adamance wrote:Maximus Mobius wrote:That can work only if you get the jump on a tanker. Face to face it is borderline sacrificial. That's not quite what I have found in the few days I have been deploying them however I do welcome insight into what is pushing it's way into the stop as top dog. To be fair, you are an expert tanker. You know exactly what to do when a situation arises. So this masochistic fit, although situational, can be decent in the hands of someone who knows better. As I said, this tank is pretty situational, my ahmg can tear a hole in it.
I've not be scared of AHMG's since the day they released and people were driving around with 3 in LAV's with AV grenades.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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Maximus Mobius
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.07.31 02:48:00 -
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Let me give you my "Tank Buster" fit;
Madrugar Gv.0
Particle Cannon
Complex heat sink*
Basic Railgun Damage modifier*
Basic Fuel Injector
Basic 120 mm armor plate
2 complex Armor hardeners
Complex Heavy armor repper
That fit has been battle tested and can face the worst of the worst, destroy any tank and hold vehicle superiority.
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Persona Non Grata
"...I will show you fear in a handful of dust..." -Rattati
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Scheneighnay McBob
Penumbra or something
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Posted - 2015.07.31 02:50:00 -
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Ah, War Thunder. Was forum-warrioring there until recently when I got my first ever forum ban, because the moderators there are sensitive bitches, and I pointed out the fact that they bend the forum rules all the time in order to ban anyone and lock any thread without a real reason.
Obviously, they proved my point.
There's a little more to it that I can't get into without explaining the situation word-for-word, but I've got a folder full of screenshots proving that forum mods there abuse their power.
Prepping for forum warz against the WT forum mods. Any advice besides alts and IP-bouncing?
The anti-tunnel snake taskforce has assembled
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Scheneighnay McBob
Penumbra or something
7
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Posted - 2015.07.31 03:25:00 -
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Maximus Mobius wrote:Let me give you my "Tank Buster" fit;
Madrugar Gv.0
Particle Cannon
Complex heat sink*
Basic Railgun Damage modifier*
Basic Fuel Injector
Basic 120 mm armor plate
2 complex Armor hardeners
Complex Heavy armor repper
That fit has been battle tested and can face the worst of the worst, destroy any tank and hold vehicle superiority.
It's no longer a TD if it has a heat sink.
Tank destroyers are extremely inconsistent: every country had their own unique idea of how to make one.
However, they all have one similarity: their RoF sucks. Some may seem fast if you're used to using tank destroyers (like I am), but the "fast" ones are still pretty damn slow next to a tank.
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Larkson Crazy Eye
WarRavens
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.07.31 03:34:00 -
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It basically boils down to how much you want to survive. You can be a pure glass cannon and have a decent chance of taking out any kind of tank at the cost of almost 100% chance of being killed by either your target itself or any kind of AV tossed your way from the infantry. Imo if you just going to die trying to kill a proto tank you might as well go cheap and just use an LAV with some remotes on it, perhaps throw a hardener and/or a fuel injector on the LAV or something to help it survive till impact.
As for what in my experience gives you the best chance to kill an enemy tank, get a crew. A couple small rail gun or missile turrets being fired heavily lean any encounter in your favor if all the other tank has is their main gun. If it's a blaster tank that tries to get super close to you those gunners can even pop out and toss a few AV grenades for a nice burst dmg.
Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician: "Everybody but me--CHARGE!"
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.07.31 03:34:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Maximus Mobius wrote:Let me give you my "Tank Buster" fit;
Madrugar Gv.0
Particle Cannon
Complex heat sink*
Basic Railgun Damage modifier*
Basic Fuel Injector
Basic 120 mm armor plate
2 complex Armor hardeners
Complex Heavy armor repper
That fit has been battle tested and can face the worst of the worst, destroy any tank and hold vehicle superiority. It's no longer a TD if it has a heat sink. Tank destroyers are extremely inconsistent: every country had their own unique idea of how to make one. However, they all have one similarity: their RoF sucks. Some may seem fast if you're used to using tank destroyers (like I am), but the "fast" ones are still pretty damn slow next to a tank.
I mean I'm all for the RPing of something but if the Heat Sink makes it a more competitive fit I'm going to go with that.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
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Posted - 2015.07.31 03:38:00 -
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True, who could ever give you tanking advice? That's, like, IDK, people trying to give me Minja advice. 
Woot woot, tooting your own horn is fun 
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.07.31 03:42:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:True, who could ever give you tanking advice? That's, like, IDK, people trying to give me Minja advice. Woot woot, tooting your own horn is fun
PC players for one. They're notoriously good as squeezing out efficiency. More importantly understanding the fittings of the competition is half the battle.
How long they can be active on the field, playing those fits to understand their behaviour, etc.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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VAHZZ
Vader's-Fist
5
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Posted - 2015.07.31 04:33:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:VAHZZ wrote:True Adamance wrote:Maximus Mobius wrote:That can work only if you get the jump on a tanker. Face to face it is borderline sacrificial. That's not quite what I have found in the few days I have been deploying them however I do welcome insight into what is pushing it's way into the stop as top dog. To be fair, you are an expert tanker. You know exactly what to do when a situation arises. So this masochistic fit, although situational, can be decent in the hands of someone who knows better. As I said, this tank is pretty situational, my ahmg can tear a hole in it. I've not be scared of AHMG's since the day they released and people were driving around with 3 in LAV's with AV grenades.
I may not kill you, but I have killed plenty of tanks and dropships with my suppressor fit. I seriously want to squad with you True.
Director of Vader's Fist
I will show you fear in a handful of dust.
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General Mosquito
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
189
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Posted - 2015.07.31 10:44:00 -
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I won't post my PC rail maddy fit publicly, message Attorney and we can talk.
There is a way to run a full tank maddy that has two complex damage mods.
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Darken-Sol
Darken's Forge and Trade
2
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Posted - 2015.07.31 10:54:00 -
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I dont know if youve been out much but there arent really tankers anymore.
Crush them
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Darken-Sol
Darken's Forge and Trade
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Posted - 2015.07.31 13:20:00 -
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Try 3 hards and a heavy rep. Nitro and whatever dmg mods you can fit with a particle accalerator.
If you have to skimp on pg cpu have 1 hardener be basic. You need 3 to survive hell but two will see you thru most things. Use the basic for cruisin around if you do that sort of thing
Crush them
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Tebu Gan
0uter.Heaven
1
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Posted - 2015.07.31 14:50:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:True, who could ever give you tanking advice? That's, like, IDK, people trying to give me Minja advice. Woot woot, tooting your own horn is fun PC players for one. They're notoriously good as squeezing out efficiency. More importantly understanding the fittings of the competition is half the battle. How long they can be active on the field, playing those fits to understand their behaviour, etc.
Playing PC, I've come across some quite interesting fits from my opponents. There are a few routes you can go here but the main is that you want to maximize your efficiency between damage and defenses.
A few I've had success with:
Plated rails
Double plates, Rep, Hardener
Complex heatsink and damage mod, nitro
Strong vs AV, not so reliant on hardeners for mitigation, not the greatest anti rail tank fit but does amazing against most fits.
Focused DPS
Double reps, double hardened
2 Complex damage mods, one complex heatsink
A good, balanced rail fit that will beat out most other fits that don't stack damage. Alternatively you could throw on a plate over a rep.
Both of these are my go to tanks. Now for a few unconventional fits I've come across that were actually incredibly effective:
Get Hard
3 hardeners, one large plate
Heatsink, damage mod, nitro
You can look at this and go wtf. Come across one in PC and you really go WTF. Last hope pulled these out when they REALLY needed a tank gone. Hitting one of these with a damage modded rail quite literally does almost nothing. First time I started pounding on one of these fits, I quickly realized there was no killing it with those hardeners online.
While it doesn't have any way to rep back lost HP, a single railgunner WON'T be able to drop it in a single heatsink volley nor with subsequent shots. That said, these are still situational and time is limited on the field, dependent on the hardener timers and limited HP.
They will add quite a bit of shock to any other tanks you come across and will no doubt win most any single engagement and do well in multiple engagement situations.
Glassed cannon
Gunnlogi
3 complex damage mods, 1 complex heatsink, nitro
Complex heavy plate, enhanced heavy plate
Gunnlogis are just god awful, don't get me wrong. But with this fit, and all mods online, most tanks will go down in 2 shots. Start pounding them before they activate hardeners and you will kill them every time. Hardeners take like 2 seconds to come online so this can get in between their window.
Even with hardeners up, this thing does some insane damage, and can take a few rail shots itself. Being that they are much more agile than the armor tanks, often times you can avoid or break engagements fairly easy. Still, gunnlogis suck, don't forget that.
Note: all my optimization skills are maxed minus one point in damage mods and 2 points in blasters. I tend to find my fits are short on CPU but leave plenty of room for PG, so small blasters are the way to go but the CPU gains are marginal. |
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Tebu Gan
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.07.31 14:54:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:I won't post my PC rail maddy fit publicly, message Attorney and we can talk.
There is a way to run a full tank maddy that has two complex damage mods.
Ain't no big secret buddy.
Edit: There is no trouble running two complex damage mods, the trouble comes when you try throwing in a heatsink. Without the heatsink (complex) duel damage mods won't to you much good against a double repped, hardened, fit. |
Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN
The Empire of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.07.31 15:40:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Recently I've been greatly enjoying getting back into Dust for some reason unbeknownst to me while at the same time messing around in War Thunder Ground Forces with the Heavy Tanks and Tank Destroyers.
The latter are what inspired me to once more take up the Particle Cannon and really get involved in demolishing the maps and preventing enemy tanks from having a real place on the map. However I'm not really convinced I am doing it correctly and am looking for advice on what the more competitive fits for these Tank Destroyer fits are.
The other day I managed to steal a Gv.0 from another HAV pilot who used a fit, that I use now, which looks like the following.
Gv.0
3x Complex Railgun Damage Modules
1x Complex 120mm Armour Plate
1x Complex Armour Hardener
1x Complex Heavy Armour Repairer
and what I assume was a
1x Complex CPU Enhancer
I have refined this into
Gv.0
3x Standard Railgun Damage Modules
1x Advanced 120mm Armour Plate
2x Complex Armour Hardeners
1x Complex Heavy Armour Repairer
The second fit is fit with lower meta modules mainly because I have not heavily invested in Large Railgun Fitting Proficiency yet . This fit has had some success in running of Blaster HAV and even seeing off Xt-201 Missile fit Madrugars though it feels like an overly cumbersome HAV considering the number of Blaster and Missile Fit HAV I've seen running Nitrous Modules.
Suggestion to refine this fit would help immensely.
Additionally any Caldari Cv.0 Tank Destroyer Fits and MBT Fits would be appreciated since I want to move back into Shield HAV Operation.
PS: I'm still really pissed off that firing the Railgun does not yield an AoE kinetic blast wave.
My Fit: Gunnlogi ADV
3 complex dmg mods
1 complex heat sink
complex heavy shield
Basic 120 plates
CPU enhancer.
If you are a good tanker you will survive.
troll.
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VAHZZ
Vader's-Fist
5
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Posted - 2015.07.31 21:45:00 -
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I have one question.
How much SP is needed to spec tanks and tank skills? I am guessing it is the most expensive.
Director of Vader's Fist
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.07.31 21:59:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:I have one question.
How much SP is needed to spec tanks and tank skills? I am guessing it is the most expensive.
20m for the basics 35-45m for proficiency
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3
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Posted - 2015.07.31 22:09:00 -
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I dont think this really fixes anything true as a recurring problem with vehicles is that they're really only fun for one person in an 'engagement' and even then barely.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
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