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        |  Apocalyptic Destroyerr
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 774
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.07.29 17:15:00 -
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 This whole PC thing has incredible drawbacks at the moment. My question is, why don't the Devs actually participate in PC's ? You know, as ringers ?
 
 They already went along the information they got from asking questions, I'd like a phase in this to where they would actually participate in numerous PC'S. Hopefully this would fix:
 
 They could easily use their Officer BPO's, judging by how competitive PC is.
 
 *Battles Disappearing
 
 *Lag Fests
 
 *The Empty Blue Table That Was Never Addressed
 
 *No-Shows
 
 Huge problem on the last one. I would love to see a Dev participate and have some hands on experience in PC whether it would be guarding HP, or pushing the city.
 
 Thoughts ?
 
 Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!! a¦á_a¦á Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn | 
      
      
        |  Void Echo
 Helix Terrestrial Operations LLC
 
 2
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.07.29 17:19:00 -
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 It's against their own rules to use their CCP profiles for anything other than investigation
 
 Closed Beta Vet. Founder of Helix Terrestrial Operations LLC. Playstation 4 = Future of Dust514. | 
      
      
        |  Ghost Kaisar
 Negative-Feedback
 
 11
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.07.29 17:21:00 -
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 Yeah, they literally aren't allowed to interfere with the player sandbox.
 
 That's supposedly why we have CPM's though.
 
 Currently listening to: Tsukihime OST Un-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; | 
      
      
        |  General Mosquito
 Fatal Absolution
 Negative-Feedback
 
 169
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.07.29 17:22:00 -
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 Why are no shows a problem? They don't show you take their district, and if it is a defense, well its part and parcel of holding territory.
 
 Weaponized boredom is a thing.
 
 General Butt Naked - Biomassed 
The Attorney General - Biomassed when unbanned
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        |  Apocalyptic Destroyerr
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 774
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.07.29 17:23:00 -
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 General Mosquito wrote:Why are no shows a problem? They don't show you take their district, and if it is a defense, well its part and parcel of holding territory. 
 Weaponized boredom is a thing.
 
 Stacked timers.
 
 Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!! a¦á_a¦á Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn | 
      
      
        |  Apocalyptic Destroyerr
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 774
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.07.29 17:24:00 -
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 Ghost Kaisar wrote:Yeah, they literally aren't allowed to interfere with the player sandbox. 
 That's supposedly why we have CPM's though.
 
 Who made decided that rule ? The Devs themselves ? If it's for fixing a feature in the game you should be all for it then.
 
 Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!! a¦á_a¦á Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn | 
      
      
        |  General Mosquito
 Fatal Absolution
 Negative-Feedback
 
 169
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.07.29 17:27:00 -
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 Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Yeah, they literally aren't allowed to interfere with the player sandbox. 
 That's supposedly why we have CPM's though.
 Who made decided that rule ? The Devs themselves ? If it's for fixing a feature in the game you should be all for it then. 
 Because back in the day, devs were allowed to join blocks and one(or more, not sure) of them seeded high value items for his own alliance.
 
 
 
 General Butt Naked - Biomassed 
The Attorney General - Biomassed when unbanned
Only 9 more alts to go. | 
      
      
        |  General Mosquito
 Fatal Absolution
 Negative-Feedback
 
 169
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.07.29 17:28:00 -
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 Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:General Mosquito wrote:Why are no shows a problem? They don't show you take their district, and if it is a defense, well its part and parcel of holding territory. 
 Weaponized boredom is a thing.
 Stacked timers.  
 So? You need to more forthcoming.
 
 
 
 General Butt Naked - Biomassed 
The Attorney General - Biomassed when unbanned
Only 9 more alts to go. | 
      
      
        |  Maken Tosch
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 12
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.07.29 17:29:00 -
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 Didn't CCP Rattati put together a player-run Think Tank about this?
 
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        |  Mortishai Belmont
 G.L.O.R.Y
 
 825
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.07.29 17:45:00 -
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 Devs and Active PC player only?
 
 So how many PC's do the "Shining Flame" corp get into? lol
 
 The C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, (~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~) | 
      
      
        |  Apocalyptic Destroyerr
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 778
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.07.29 17:50:00 -
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 Mortishai Belmont wrote:Devs and Active PC player only? 
 So how many PC's do the "Shining Flame" corp get into? lol
 
 This is my alt you idiot. I'm in Negative-Feedback.
 
 Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!! a¦á_a¦á Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn | 
      
      
        |  Mortishai Belmont
 G.L.O.R.Y
 
 826
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.07.29 18:13:00 -
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 Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:Devs and Active PC player only? 
 So how many PC's do the "Shining Flame" corp get into? lol
 This is my alt you idiot. I'm in Negative-Feedback. 
 No crap, that's obvious, I was kinda of pointing that fact out. Why log onto the forums with an alt? :/
 
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        |  Aidualc
 LATINOS KILLERS CORP
 RUST415
 
 491
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.07.29 18:25:00 -
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 DEVS time = Shanghai time... 2:00 - 4:00 hours EVE... Rattati is eating cheerios and fresh spreadsheets in breakfast.
 
 Right Now: 18:24 eve... Rattati is sleeping because is 2:24 AM....
 
 
 
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**Respectu, Honorem, Value, Unionem**** | 
      
      
        |  Apocalyptic Destroyerr
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 779
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.07.29 18:27:00 -
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 Mortishai Belmont wrote:Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:Devs and Active PC player only? 
 So how many PC's do the "Shining Flame" corp get into? lol
 This is my alt you idiot. I'm in Negative-Feedback. No crap, that's obvious, I was kinda of pointing that fact out. Why log onto the forums with an alt? :/ 
 My main is banned.
 
 Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!! a¦á_a¦á Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn | 
      
      
        |  DEATH THE KlD
 Imperfect - Bastards
 
 269
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.07.29 18:30:00 -
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 General Mosquito wrote:Why are no shows a problem? They don't show you take their district, and if it is a defense, well its part and parcel of holding territory. 
 Weaponized boredom is a thing.
 Oh idk maybe I wasted 30 minutes setting up a PC while we are stacked and have another stack 40 minutes after that PC..wasting my time sure is funny isn't it? I liked my idea that if you don't show then 10% of your corp earnings for 24 hours go to the corp you no showed against
 
 
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        |  General Mosquito
 Fatal Absolution
 Negative-Feedback
 
 173
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.07.29 18:38:00 -
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 DEATH THE KlD wrote:General Mosquito wrote:Why are no shows a problem? They don't show you take their district, and if it is a defense, well its part and parcel of holding territory. 
 Weaponized boredom is a thing.
 Oh idk maybe I wasted 30 minutes setting up a PC while we are stacked and have another stack 40 minutes after that PC..wasting my time sure is funny isn't it? I liked my idea that if you don't show then 10% of your corp earnings for 24 hours go to the corp you no showed against 
 Yes, wasting a PC land holders time is funny.
 
 It is the exact point of weaponized boredom.
 
 If I were an opposing corp, seeing how frothy you get over it, I would be sending empty attacks everyday until your people stopped logging in for fights.
 
 General Butt Naked - Biomassed 
The Attorney General - Biomassed when unbanned
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        |  D4GG3R
 0uter.Heaven
 
 1
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.07.29 18:52:00 -
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 Void Echo wrote:It's against their own rules to use their CCP profiles for anything other than investigation  Exactly. It would be for investigation.
 
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        |  Mortishai Belmont
 G.L.O.R.Y
 
 826
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.07.29 19:04:00 -
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 Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:Devs and Active PC player only? 
 So how many PC's do the "Shining Flame" corp get into? lol
 This is my alt you idiot. I'm in Negative-Feedback. No crap, that's obvious, I was kinda of pointing that fact out. Why log onto the forums with an alt? :/ My main is banned. 
 
 Ah, yeah, I just recently got un-banned myself x.x
 
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        |  Aeon Amadi
 Negative-Feedback.
 Negative-Feedback
 
 11
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.07.29 19:23:00 -
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 Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Yeah, they literally aren't allowed to interfere with the player sandbox. 
 That's supposedly why we have CPM's though.
 Who made decided that rule ? The Devs themselves ? If it's for fixing a feature in the game you should be all for it then. 
 There is a -very good reason- CCP developers are not allowed to interfere with the player sandbox and it mostly stems from the hell that occurred with the T20 Incident on Eve Online. Google that up sometime and you'll learn everything you need to know, but having a little Eve knowledge is a must to understand exactly the implications.
 
 Long story short is that a Developer used dev hacks to give the largest and most powerful alliance (at the time) incredibly powerful BPO's that caused a massive imbalance in the sandbox. That's one case of how bias can occur but ultimately it is the fact that -they are the game's developers messing with our politics-.
 
 Sure, a CCP developer in a PC entity could do a lot of amazing things experiencing those woes first hand, but the consequences for that certainly outweigh the benefits and CCP is wise to include those rules.
 
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        |  Moochie Cricket
 Fatal Absolution
 Negative-Feedback
 
 1
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.07.29 19:48:00 -
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 Back in closed beta, CCP Nullabor would create custom PC battles between Synergy and Subdreddit to monitor. Usually there would be 1-2 CCP employees (on their main) on each side fighting, while others would monitor the backend. The battles would show up in the other contracts tab and all lost assets during the battle would be returned.
 
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        |  Alaika Arbosa
 No Context
 
 2
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.07.29 21:45:00 -
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 Mortishai Belmont wrote:Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:Devs and Active PC player only? 
 So how many PC's do the "Shining Flame" corp get into? lol
 This is my alt you idiot. I'm in Negative-Feedback. No crap, that's obvious, I was kinda of pointing that fact out. Why log onto the forums with an alt? :/ He isn't banned, he''s scurrd
 
 T20 for those who were wondering
 
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