DUST Search - Incompetence or Indifference?

ROMULUS H3X wrote:

BARAGAMOS wrote:

ROMULUS H3X wrote:

BARAGAMOS wrote:

Which is it?

The Biotic family has been broken for way too long now. It was cute for a couple weeks, but now OHKs from flying commandos has worn out the novelty. Same for guys with shotguns clearing 80 meters in two jumps.

Honestly Ratatti are you guys just so bad at your job you can't hot fix the myos at least? That is assuming you are not stupid enough to think that the player base you built up secretly want to play HALO. Having cover and terrain completely negated by builds that can close on you before they are even red dots on your scanner then OHK you with a shotty or melee is something I really hope is a bug and you get off your lazy or incompetent ass and fix. No excuse for this to have gone on as long as it has. Over half of the players in Pubs now are flying commandos etc. Like is said cute for a couple days, but most of us are over it. How about you grow some balls and at least address the issue in writing here.

Lol 80 meters in 2 jumps.... keep dreaming

It is not a dream. Its a reality. Join Pubs and aim your reticle at a jumping scout moving full speed and it takes 2 jumps to bring them into shotty range for 80 meters out. So rather you like it or not it is the reality.

I see you like to make up anecdotes to try and prove a point..


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BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 140	Posted - 2015.07.29 15:26:00 - [1] - Quote Which is it? The Biotic family has been broken for way too long now. It was cute for a couple weeks, but now OHKs from flying commandos has worn out the novelty. Same for guys with shotguns clearing 80 meters in two jumps. Honestly Ratatti are you guys just so bad at your job you can't hot fix the myos at least? That is assuming you are not stupid enough to think that the player base you built up secretly want to play HALO. Having cover and terrain completely negated by builds that can close on you before they are even red dots on your scanner then OHK you with a shotty or melee is something I really hope is a bug and you get off your lazy or incompetent ass and fix. No excuse for this to have gone on as long as it has. Over half of the players in Pubs now are flying commandos etc. Like is said cute for a couple days, but most of us are over it. How about you grow some balls and at least address the issue in writing here.
BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 141	Posted - 2015.07.29 15:37:00 - [2] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Nothing to hotfix when CCP believes the current myofib behavior is working as intended. Considering that the Stacking penalty is not applying kid its wishful thinking on your part. So its not working as intended. Read the item then post please. Jump suit fan boys need not reply.
BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 143	Posted - 2015.07.29 15:47:00 - [3] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Just get used to shooting them out of the air. It is not like they can strafe while falling. They have a fairly predictable flight path. Another inane answer. Come on guys "shoot them out of the air". That's an original thought. It helps when they are not on a roof out of view, jumping from behind you over a wall, jumping faster than your reticle trains, or closing a 40 meter gap in less than one second. The issue it that the myos are not applying a they should., and the maps are not designed to handle players who can jump buildings. This is a developer issue not a change playstyle issue.
BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 143	Posted - 2015.07.29 15:50:00 - [4] - Quote ROMULUS H3X wrote: BARAGAMOS wrote: Which is it? The Biotic family has been broken for way too long now. It was cute for a couple weeks, but now OHKs from flying commandos has worn out the novelty. Same for guys with shotguns clearing 80 meters in two jumps. Honestly Ratatti are you guys just so bad at your job you can't hot fix the myos at least? That is assuming you are not stupid enough to think that the player base you built up secretly want to play HALO. Having cover and terrain completely negated by builds that can close on you before they are even red dots on your scanner then OHK you with a shotty or melee is something I really hope is a bug and you get off your lazy or incompetent ass and fix. No excuse for this to have gone on as long as it has. Over half of the players in Pubs now are flying commandos etc. Like is said cute for a couple days, but most of us are over it. How about you grow some balls and at least address the issue in writing here. Lol 80 meters in 2 jumps.... keep dreaming It is not a dream. Its a reality. Join Pubs and aim your reticle at a jumping scout moving full speed and it takes 2 jumps to bring them into shotty range for 80 meters out. So rather you like it or not it is the reality.
BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 143	Posted - 2015.07.29 15:51:00 - [5] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: I wish I could find the server or game in which half the players are running melee/jump fits. Maybe the game would prove entertaining at that point and would actually be worth playing for more than one game a day. Join Pubs anytime after 8. Pretty much every game over half of each team are commandos...most of them flying. For the 2 minutes the games last any before one side redlines the other.
BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 143	Posted - 2015.07.29 15:54:00 - [6] - Quote Sergeant Sazu wrote: Gosh, I've been doing it wrong this entire time. If I want to convince Rattati of something, I should throw a tantrum, hurl insults at him, and be a presumptuous and condescending prick to anyone that posts in my thread. Thank you for your wise teachings, Sir Baragamos. This will surely set Rattati straight. Rolls eyes You mean like this post just did? What a dumbass. Go troll the children's boards please. This is not condescending at all. Get some education so you can tell the difference, and if you want to be fan boy go start your own post on the ways you like to suck CCP ****. Otherwise keep to the topic at hand or don' post kid.
BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 143	Posted - 2015.07.29 16:00:00 - [7] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: The immaturity/tantrum throwing makes it impossible to take this thread seriously. Spoken like a true jump boy... If you don't like the post then don't troll like a dumbass... Bottom line is every match I'm in I see this and hear guys griping on the VC all day about it. Its rampant and the maps are not designed to handle the play style. So most of us want answers on the subject.
BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 143	Posted - 2015.07.29 16:02:00 - [8] - Quote Sergeant Sazu wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: BARAGAMOS wrote: This is not condescending at all. Fascinating, sir! Do go on! BARAGAMOS wrote: Get some education so you can tell the difference, and if you want to be fan boy go start your own post on the ways you like to suck CCP ****. Otherwise keep to the topic at hand or don' post kid WELL I NEVER! HMPH! I was about to break it down exactly like that. You beat me to it, good sir. That post was condescending. The original one is not...good job picking that up. So how about we stick to the topic.
BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 143	Posted - 2015.07.29 16:06:00 - [9] - Quote Sergeant Sazu wrote: BARAGAMOS wrote: Sergeant Sazu wrote: Gosh, I've been doing it wrong this entire time. If I want to convince Rattati of something, I should throw a tantrum, hurl insults at him, and be a presumptuous and condescending prick to anyone that posts in my thread. Thank you for your wise teachings, Sir Baragamos. This will surely set Rattati straight. Rolls eyes You mean like this post just did? What a dumbass. Go troll the children's boards please. This is not condescending at all. Get some education so you can tell the difference, and if you want to be fan boy go start your own post on the ways you like to suck CCP ****. Otherwise keep to the topic at hand or don' post kid. Mission: Troll that guy I don't like Status: 100% success. Bait taken. Much ranting received. More assumptions made. My point still stands, however. I also dislike jumpy people, and you're accomplishing nothing by verbally flipping tables, AKA inflammatory ranting. Then they the following as a post: I also don't like jumpy guys...... Without all the other wasted typing.
BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 143	Posted - 2015.07.29 16:20:00 - [10] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: BARAGAMOS wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: Just get used to shooting them out of the air. It is not like they can strafe while falling. They have a fairly predictable flight path. Another inane answer. Come on guys "shoot them out of the air". That's an original thought. It helps when they are not on a roof out of view, jumping from behind you over a wall, jumping faster than your reticle trains, or closing a 40 meter gap in less than one second. The issue it that the myos are not applying a they should., and the maps are not designed to handle players who can jump buildings. This is a developer issue not a change playstyle issue. It seems you are having more of an issue with it than I am. I had trouble with jumpers when the change was first made, but now I am doing much better against them. 1) Spot jumper. 2) Sidestep ball of plasma (easier because you know it is coming before they shoot) 3) Shoot at their body and track with their relatively slow horizontal drift while they fall through your line of fire giving you a head-shot. 4) If Scout, watch hilarious rag doll. If Medium Frame, adjust aim to finish them. Fallacy #1 Spot jumper. Its real easy if you have eyes all around your head. You don't. If you are lucky they are bad and come from the front or slowly so you can detect them. Maybe even a squadmate sees them, but in general when they jump over a wall right beside you there is nothing you can do about it. Remember, that if you have 70 million SP or all proto tanked its easier to do something about it. At low SP you have no counter play, and you cant even run the same fit to counter it. Fallacy #2 Sidestep plasma Most aren't even bothering to run the plasma or MD. Its shotty and melee. Not side stepping that. Those that do plasma spam tend to shoot you from the back after you smoke them the first couple times (as that seems to be the weakest builds). Fallacy #3 Shoot form a distance.... They are not in open country. They are camping building. You have to be 40 meters back for this to work, and that means you are not taking an objective. When they jump on top of you in the city you don't have the luxury of just aiming at your leisure. Fallacy #4 Suit size Seems to commandos these days that are the most common so no cool rag dolling. Except when the MD your face.... We all kill them everyday, That is not the point. The point is the mechanic is not applying the stacking penalties as needed and allowing guys to move around maps in ways that they were not designed to handle. Go put on a militia or basic fit on an alt with low SP and see how much you like the difference. Its much easier when you are geared up and high SP to ignore the issue. New characters already get grindered, but usually they can see guy shooting them coming down a corridor. When some guy jumps into your scan range 1/4 of second before he OHKs you it does not feel like you have opportunity to counter play them... because you don't.

BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 143	Posted - 2015.07.29 16:33:00 - [11] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Hold on, changing tear buckets. Dear thread, thanks for teaching me Eugenics wouldn't have been that bad. So assholes like you could not troll.. yeah that would be great.. So are you too stupid to stick he topic or just an all around *******? No one is even crying kid. Its an issue most players who aren't doing it want answered.
BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 143	Posted - 2015.07.29 17:05:00 - [12] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: If your goal is to enact change, then you are "doing it wrong." Want to prove that Myofibrils and their current performance (intended or not) is detrimental to the game/ overpowered/ undesirable? Then guess what.... provide market data on myofibrils, do a cross analysis on multiple other modules, and provide a conclusion. Also, a simple, but by no means comprehensive survey of myofibril fits and the amount of users on a per-match basis done over the course of approximately 3 days to a week would be beneficial to convincing the Developers to enact change. Data and data interpretation is a great way to get the attention of the developers. You did none of that. So why the hell should CCP and the rest of the community take the vitriol you spew seriously? How about you take all that time kid.. All I have to do is log on to a Pub match. I love empirical information as well, but in this case anecdotal seems to be working pretty well. It does not take data to watch guys jump over entire buildings or punch for 1300+ damage. It's an obvious screw up they admitted to, but seem to either be fine with now or unable to change. Like I said earlier, if you want new players in the community having them die double digit times to guys they cant even see coming is not the answer. They can't even run the same set ups for months after they start as it takes millions of SP to run the suit and the biotics. Besides, I was not aware so many on here answered for CCP...yourself included. Its not meant to be a discussion with forum trolls. Its meant to get an honest answer about if the future of the game is HALO or a Strategic FPS. Because, lots of guys are looking for other ways to spend their time already, and the longer this keeps up the more older guys leave because its not the way they want to play the game. Then with no new guys replacing them because they quit after getting MD spammed for three games or Punched to death 10 times....well you get the point. Hopefully without a spread sheet.
BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 146	Posted - 2015.07.29 22:10:00 - [13] - Quote ROMULUS H3X wrote: BARAGAMOS wrote: ROMULUS H3X wrote: BARAGAMOS wrote: Which is it? The Biotic family has been broken for way too long now. It was cute for a couple weeks, but now OHKs from flying commandos has worn out the novelty. Same for guys with shotguns clearing 80 meters in two jumps. Honestly Ratatti are you guys just so bad at your job you can't hot fix the myos at least? That is assuming you are not stupid enough to think that the player base you built up secretly want to play HALO. Having cover and terrain completely negated by builds that can close on you before they are even red dots on your scanner then OHK you with a shotty or melee is something I really hope is a bug and you get off your lazy or incompetent ass and fix. No excuse for this to have gone on as long as it has. Over half of the players in Pubs now are flying commandos etc. Like is said cute for a couple days, but most of us are over it. How about you grow some balls and at least address the issue in writing here. Lol 80 meters in 2 jumps.... keep dreaming It is not a dream. Its a reality. Join Pubs and aim your reticle at a jumping scout moving full speed and it takes 2 jumps to bring them into shotty range for 80 meters out. So rather you like it or not it is the reality. I see you like to make up anecdotes to try and prove a point.. For the record my uneducated friend, asking you to log on and see for yourself is not anecdotal. Look it up. The dictionary is a powerful tool. It would be if I asked you to rely only on my experience. What I am asking you to do is experiential learning. Learn to argue, I'm sure the local community college probably has a course in logic. Even better just myo up your own scout and try it. Start running then aim your reticle at something 80 meters away then jump twice. If you are maxed at protos you will usually pass it and it is definitely within shotty range. It helps if you actually try something before you spew ignorance. Now after you prove yourself wrong please refrain from posting anymore trolly BS.
BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 146	Posted - 2015.07.29 22:19:00 - [14] - Quote Figures, its always the fan boys that don't like it when you bring their favorite toy/crutch/FOTM to the spotlight. Thanks for letting me know.