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Posted - 2015.07.29 13:40:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Louis Domi wrote:Holy guacamole... Putting the mouse over the total amount loss number.... $1944... Damn... I'd quit if that happen... I mean, that is literally the worst fit I have ever seen on a super-capital ship. Ever. To try and put this further in perspective, a 500MN MicroWarpdrive is designed to accelerate a ship in the mass range of a Battleship. That Super-Carrier is 4 times the size of a Battleship. That MWD would give him barely enough acceleration to be noticeable.
You've never flown a cap obviously.
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Posted - 2015.07.29 13:57:00 -
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NextDark Knight wrote:There is a reason for putting microwarp drives on capital ships is it draws you to be shot first in some cases.
This is used to draw fire from other similar ships if your setup to tank better.
Example is when you start targeting a group of ships the one with the largest signature gets locked first.
What type of drunken shiptoast is this.
There is a much better reason for fitting a prop mod.
People who haven't flown caps shouldn't talk about them.
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Posted - 2015.07.29 14:43:00 -
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Commander Noctus wrote:Just...what the hell? I remember my brief time in EVE. I was nervous to go into space to collect my planet stuff in a super cheap gallente cargo ship, in an area with 1-4 people.
How the hell did this guy ever think that carrying ALL THAT in a CAPITAL SHIP was ever a good idea?
He was an idiot, moving within blops range of PL.
Carrying all the stuff wasn't a bad decision, but the T2 tank and poofit subcaps show how dumb he was.
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Posted - 2015.07.29 16:56:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:
Considering the entire universe is within PL Blops range, touching a Revenant was incredibly stupid.
Not at all. PL can only have their fleet in one place. That fleet has a set range, for both blops and titan bridging.
Going through delve with a rev was very dumb, but owning a rev isn't. There are a couple way out in the drones that PL won't even go after, because in order to do it they would have to rack up huge fatique hits to even get within range, and would be spotted and reported before that.
Given the recent changes to null-null holes, the odds of them randomly showing up near you has been reduced as well. Provided you aren't rolling solo, you can have a rev, you just have to be smart about it.
This guy wasn't, and he died.
You would think no one here ever owned a super.
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Posted - 2015.07.29 17:57:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:General Mosquito wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Louis Domi wrote:Holy guacamole... Putting the mouse over the total amount loss number.... $1944... Damn... I'd quit if that happen... I mean, that is literally the worst fit I have ever seen on a super-capital ship. Ever. To try and put this further in perspective, a 500MN MicroWarpdrive is designed to accelerate a ship in the mass range of a Battleship. That Super-Carrier is 4 times the size of a Battleship. That MWD would give him barely enough acceleration to be noticeable. You've never flown a cap obviously. Only Titans on Singularity.
And that is why you shouldn't talk about things you know nothing about.
Yes that Rev was crappily fit, but only because he went full PvE with a dirt cheap tank, and had nothing like what you would want for fitting for travel.
Keep in mind, no amount of bling would have saved him in that situation. A couple of neuts and smartbombs might have, if he could clear the dictor bubble, but that is dubious as crap given the amount of webs fielded against him.
But its funny that you think that was the worst super fit you have ever seen.
https://zkillboard.com/kill/48130086/ that died yesterday, and is much, much worse than that rev fit.
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Posted - 2015.07.30 02:43:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:
Wow, you wanna back off the superior tone a little there? That's not exactly a mainline tactic. I've flown support for capitals before during the 2 years I flew with the CFC and not seen that particular tactic used.
If you want to inform people, more power to you, but taking that kind of tone just makes you look like an *******.
Yes prop mods on caps and supers is a mainline tactic. It has been for years. Literally years.
I was talking down to you because I thought you were a newbro spouting garbage. That you flew with the biggest alliance for that long and didn't learn anything about caps is hilarious. Did you never wonder how those supers and caps were getting into warp in less than 25 seconds when the base time to warp is in the 90s range?
If you had asked around in corp, I am an *******. I don't care if I look that way.
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Posted - 2015.07.30 05:00:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:He was stupid, in more ways than 1.
I am guessing that was in nullsec? And he was freighting all that? And he fit such an atrocious ship?
I know little about the physics of EVE, I am more of the lore learner, but I laughed when I saw that.
Yes to it being in nullsec.
Most carriers and supercarriers have a selection of ships in their ship maintenance array(SMA). It is a common tactic for carrier pilots to carry a Heavy Interdictor, one of the few ships capable of preventing a Titan or SuperCarrier from jumping. Then either another pilot in fleet, or the carrier pilot himself can board the Heavy Interdictor if the enemy drops a super on the field.
For travel purposes, having additional ships for your cyno alts is never a bad thing.
Given the cost of the hull, it would not have been unreasonable for this ship to be carrying a Nestor for emergency refits, although it wouldn't have saved him here.
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Posted - 2015.07.30 13:03:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I'd like to point out that this was a Revenant, a rare supercarrier with an actual value possibly significantly exceeding the killboard value. Rare doesn't even begin to describe them. There are like maybe 3-4 in existence at any given time? Something like that.
I doubt that it is that low.
Rocket X has at least one, more likely two, and PL has at least one more on top of that.
There are 3-5 operating way out in the drones.
There is at least one more in delve/querious, the rumor mill says there is a Russian one logged off not too far from 319.
Then there are whatever ones are held by CFC and co.
Sadly more than half of them are going to be used as ratting supers until they get nuked. My best guess would be between 12-20 out there today, although some of them have probably been unsubbed.
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Posted - 2015.07.30 13:22:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:
Well, my knowledge of EVE is years out of date.
It was probably true when I learned about it.
That's still stupidly rare.
Rare indeed, but most of that rarity is because you don't see them in combat that much, unless whoever is dropping it is very confident that it isn't a trap.
I had been back in eve for only a month or so when Rocket X showed up in low sec with his Rev and a couple of titans to mop up some carriers.
Some people dislike PL, but I respect them for bringing out the shiny toys to play.
I was doing some checking on Zkill, and it looks like PL have at least 3 active revs.
Although from the KB action, if anyone wanted to hunt Revs right now, it would appear there is at least a half dozen operating in the Delve area recently.
https://zkillboard.com/ship/3514/
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Posted - 2015.07.30 13:48:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:
I've always seen people use webs for that. I've never been around capitals that weren't being used along with one of our Alpha Fleets of Maelstroms and Scorpions with supporting Hurricanes.
Except you can't web supers.
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Posted - 2015.07.30 14:19:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:General Mosquito wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:
I've always seen people use webs for that. I've never been around capitals that weren't being used along with one of our Alpha Fleets of Maelstroms and Scorpions with supporting Hurricanes.
Except you can't web supers. Yeah, that's true. I've only really operated with Carriers. How effective is the MWD if your enemy knows what you're doing? Does it rely entirely on the enemy fleet not properly following target calls?
An MWD will get a super into warp in 2 cycles(20 seconds) If the super pilot has a nomad set, that drops to a single cycle(might need a single i-stab, not 100% on that one). Plus its a super, so it can't be scrammed. I haven't flown a titan, but I would imagine a driveby involves, landing, locking, propmod align, DD, warp to safe.
I can't say how effective it is for getting out of getting caught, as that hasn't happened yet, but for general movement, it is a massive time saver.
Truthfully, it isn't for use in combat, but for travel, and the avoidance of being caught. In an actual super fight, you would rather have either an extra utility mod(Armor) or more tank(Shield).
In the post jump fatigue world, supers do actually take gates now, and knocking a half minute off of each align time will keep your subcaps from losing their minds.
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