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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2015.07.29 13:34:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:Cavani1EE7 wrote:TheD1CK wrote:
The problem with staging MH into a platform for good fights is... players would have to fight tougher battles, who wants that??
I do The only way it will ever happen is if the players make it happen...OR We make such a mess that CCP have to add padded walls to the playground.
WTF do you think they're doing?
Listen, going for 100% creates fights. Because it is literally forcing people to fight for their districts.
People take sides. Players switch sides. CONTENT HAPPENS.
CCP have already added padded walls to the playground anyways, might as well have some fun.
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Posted - 2015.07.29 16:25:00 -
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*SIGH*
It's like talking to a 10 year old.
TheD1CK wrote:
From a guy part of farming 40% of MH, I am not surprised you can't see an issue with one blob making an impact.
I never farmed. Every last ISK I got was from fighting battles. I never had one of those personal farm districts, and its the reason why I have ~5 mil ISK right now, while I know other still sitting on several hundred million. All I did was show up and fight battles. The corp did send me paychecks, but I actually gave a lot of it away. I never actually held more than 200 mil, which anyone can get if they carefully spend their ISK over a few months.
TheD1CK wrote:You can keep hopping on TheD every time I post though, the man crush is cute 
Literally the first time I posted in this thread.
D4GG3R wrote:People obviously don't remember that the DNS Era was the second most stagnant time in PC history. The only thing it created content for was 0H, What the French, and everyone farming their districts in DNS. This is literally the dumbest way you could think of in order to retain player base and create fights. So much so that I completely thought this whole thing was a big joke for about the first 3 or so threads.
Dagger, here's the thing. You have TONS of activity in the first week or two getting districts. Then people for some reason give up and you get far too much land. This is the stagnant period.
With the land advantage, getting rid of leftovers is typically just a matter of time. The real kick is after its all done. Dumping the districts all at once creates a HUGE power vacuum. Groups scramble to pick up the pieces, some corps fall, new ones rise.
It's happened before, it'll happen again. Just like nature.
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Posted - 2015.07.29 16:32:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:
A lot of you seem to be forgetting PFC existed still in this time line, it wasn't taken out till the last weeks to get the full 100%. After DNS fell a part and AE took control of all the land any of the small corps could of gotten content if they wanted, for almost no price.
None of them stood up to get that content that was WIDELY available for them. it's not DNS's fault the noobs are all idiots.
This is a seriously under-appreciated comment (although a bit harsh).
Its like when I see people complaining that PC is not accessible enough right now.
B*tch, PC is the most accessible its ever been. You can literally spam attacks for free with enough activity, and you get ISK for losing fights.
When I first got into PC, we had to corp tax to get enough money to pay our tankers and to buy the clone pack. Then hope to GOD that you could pull off a win or two to actually keep the district. Then repeat the process ad infinum until you hit a point where you started to make enough ISK to actually sustain PC'ing. Then we finally got rid of our 15% corp tax.
It's not that PC is inaccessible right now, its that everyone is looking for the easy way out. They want a district literally handed to them.
PC only has 245 districts. Spots are limited. You're going to have to fight for a spot in it. That's the whole point of PC.
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2015.07.29 16:33:00 -
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D4GG3R wrote:Roman837 wrote:D4GG3R wrote:People obviously don't remember that the DNS Era was the second most stagnant time in PC history. The only thing it created content for was 0H, What the French, and everyone farming their districts in DNS. This is literally the dumbest way you could think of in order to retain player base and create fights. So much so that I completely thought this whole thing was a big joke for about the first 3 or so threads. The end waa stagnant. Correct. The beginning was intense. And lasted 2 weeks of constant pc. The opposition gave up and instead of fighting and reattach ignore to take back districts they decided to just block the war by locking districts. So. Yes they exploited the game to stop people from "winning" The goal of 100 percent should be everyone's goal. And that means fighting other people who also want 100 percent. This will create fights. No one should rolls over and quit. But it will happen because half the people who play this game are younger than 25 and have grown up in the era of getting participation ribbons...and breaking up good teams of kids for soccer or any sport so the ****** kids can have fun. Like you said, it will create fights initially, but you have to think long term. The long term greatly harms PC.
That only applies if the group on top decides to hold onto the districts and do nothing with them.
If VF dumps everything when its over, it'll go like I said. A huge power vacuum. I'm interested in what happens afterwards.
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Posted - 2015.07.29 16:37:00 -
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D4GG3R wrote:
That is true, but I'm not sure that what rose from the ashes the first time was an improvement.
That can more be attributed to a lot of players leaving.
We lost a ton of Vets after that first fall through. The DNS one saw more groups leave as well.
Its good sometimes to let the higher tier players leave and move on. New players have a chance to rise up.
There's some brand new faces in FA that I'm happy to say are really picking up the mantle. One guy in particular is shaping up to be a great slayer, seeing him drop 15+ kills in a lot of fights.
Sometimes you gotta let go of what you have to get some improvement, and sometimes, generations take a step back.
We can't control it, but maintaining the status quo isn't always the best idea. Sometimes, you gotta shake things up.
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Posted - 2015.07.29 17:22:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:Roman837 wrote:
Haha we have different views on that news paper. Mainly because I was your main target lol. Very clever tho. Made me chuckle inside but had to put on the show for the troops of being offended. Part of the gamr
The woes of us who take this game seriously. But if public opinion didn't matter this game would have no value to me what so ever. we haven't had people take things truly seriously in a long time. But those times were fun, even if i was strong arming my way into things. ah, well, gotta carve out my own fun too since CCP won't give me any.
or you could come play Arma 3 with me 
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Posted - 2015.07.29 17:25:00 -
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D4GG3R wrote:Roman837 wrote:D4GG3R wrote:Roman837 wrote:...I am shocked the **** posted this. He pretty much just said he's happy li ing in a care bear game. Where no one has any ambition. Also...you may be right that ccp won't even acknowledge it. But maybe they will. Maybe they will add us to yhe lore of eve. They have done that with eve corps who conquered entire systems. It should be every leaders goal to strive for 109 percent. If not why are you playing a war game?
Yes. This will create sides and there will be lots of pcs. It will take huge amounts of planning which to sum of us is the best part of the game.
Last time we reached 99%. OH was not with us..and the only reason we didn't achieve it was the last district was being perms locked by like 30 people spamming it lol. And then egos turned on each other and civil war broke out. And guess what. That civil war was amazing. It created rich history.
So don't worry. I understand why DMG doesn't want to get involved. They are already the bottom of the barrel when it comes to being considered ambitious. Glad you will be on yhe other side as it will make things that much easier The civil war created 0 content for anyone but those involved in DNS once again, as well as 0H. Further proof that the little guys in dust don't have a single thing to gain from this little whim to take 100%. not to mention the shear amount of time it will take to take all of those districts with the CP system. Months, maybe even a year. Waa this during your corp hopping phase? Where you left FA because they didn't field you? Because there were tones of fights. I left FA pretty DNS because they no showed all of their PCS and let AE take their districts. I was in Opus Arcana. A little corp
To be fair, we did it to merge in and make sure it disintegrated after they achieved the 100%.
And the AE no shows was after 5 days of straight PC with ERA. We won 30 out of 33 IIRC.
Still one of my favorite weeks in PC. We no showed because most of us didn't get on over the weekend (Because of the whole week of PC), and we got stomped because AE is strong on the weekends. We knew we wouldn't win without our core, so we just let them take it and moved onto phase II of our master plan
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Posted - 2015.07.29 18:18:00 -
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Dust User wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:Dust User wrote:D4GG3R wrote:People obviously don't remember that the DNS Era was the second most stagnant time in PC history. The only thing it created content for was 0H, What the French, and everyone farming their districts in DNS. This is literally the dumbest way you could think of in order to retain player base and create fights. So much so that I completely thought this whole thing was a big joke for about the first 3 or so threads. You're crazy. I was hiding from DNS everyday and it was the most fun I ever had in this game. fixed for accuracy. KEQ district locked to prevent battles. idk wtf he's talking about, lol. All this time has passed and still salty. GG https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155850The DNS tears are real.
Don't pull up old posts from the War Room.
Too many memories. I playing with and against a lot of names in there.
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Posted - 2015.07.29 23:15:00 -
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dusty5678 wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:TheD1CK wrote:Cavani1EE7 wrote:TheD1CK wrote:
The problem with staging MH into a platform for good fights is... players would have to fight tougher battles, who wants that??
I do The only way it will ever happen is if the players make it happen...OR We make such a mess that CCP have to add padded walls to the playground. WTF do you think they're doing? Listen, going for 100% creates fights. Because it is literally forcing people to fight for their districts. People take sides. Players switch sides. CONTENT HAPPENS. CCP have already added padded walls to the playground anyways, might as well have some fun. The point is to get fights? Have fun fighting corps full of scrubs and noobs who were given a district by 0.h or even DMG. That sounds like a really good fight right there. I'm against 100% because the only good fights are against the elitist corps. IDC really all you fucks can do whatever. You won't be receiving a single district from 0.h though, whether you try take it or ask for it.
TBF, it all depends on how VF runs it.
If they're smart, they'll absorb and use lower tier players to fight lower tier corps. No need to waste the big guns on them. Send in a vet or two to show em how to run it.
If they successfully do this to the point where they DO take 100%, they'll have a unique scenario. They'll have successfully wet the feet of a lot of new PC players.
Who will then go back to their corps.
And fight over the now empty land. Win-win for all. If they play it right. Also, I'm not playing with them right now, busy playing Arma.
Also: If the only good fights are to be found in OH and DMG, PC is in one sorry ass state 
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2015.07.30 04:10:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:
Wernt you from game or nae? The fact that you're in OH and some how speaking for them shows how far the game has sunk. I have always had such respect for OH. They are old school and I've seen them go through some tornadoes of changes. Zaria is a very smart player and fun to talk with...I wonder why she's allowing you to talk for the corp.
Either way..I'm sure there's more than a few people currently in OH who would love to fight for 100%.
Roman, a lot of the old school OH you and several others (Including myself) respected have left.
I was chatting with Shrukian Iceeye earlier, asked why he left OH. Simply said "They've changed, I don't like the way they are now".
Moody, Tiberius, Musturd, etc. Most have moved on.
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