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Sicerly Yaw
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Posted - 2015.07.28 21:15:00 -
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allow passengers to use weapons and equipment
having a logi passenger ride along to insure the drop ship can be repped and to drop equipment in key positions while being able to defend themselves and drop straight into combat
I believe this would bring more tactics to the game and make drop ships more viable along with making mobile cru's more favorable to use and it can helps drop ships stay where they are needed with support from the passengers
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Georgia Xavier
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Posted - 2015.07.28 21:33:00 -
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this will be like bad company 2 again with the engineer+ UH64 Blackhawk combo
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Sicerly Yaw
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Posted - 2015.07.28 22:09:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:this will be like bad company 2 again with the engineer+ UH64 Blackhawk combo
yeah I guess you could put it like that but I think it'd be more diverse with all passengers being able to switch between weapons and equipment allowed for various tactics to be used
imagine a sniper as a passenger having a wide view of targets and mobility trough the pilot allowing for coordinated kills such as av or other snipers
or perhaps a drop ship with AV units keeping it protected from tanks and other threats
the passengers would not be invulnerable and could be sniped out or killed by various weapons as they can be now the only difference would be that they'd be able to defend and attack and still be valuable assets instead of just riding along like a lot of blue dots do
this could make for some interesting Arial battles along with giving drop ship pilots a bigger role rather then just being for transport and ADS pilots could use the extra support against AV and other vehicles
I think originally it was intended for infantry to be able to fire their weapons while in a drop ship (one of the old trailers for dust showcased a plasma cannon being fired from inside a drop ship)
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Georgia Xavier
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Posted - 2015.07.28 22:25:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:Georgia Xavier wrote:this will be like bad company 2 again with the engineer+ UH64 Blackhawk combo yeah I guess you could put it like that but I think it'd be more diverse with all passengers being able to switch between weapons and equipment allowed for various tactics to be used imagine a sniper as a passenger having a wide view of targets and mobility trough the pilot allowing for coordinated kills such as av or other snipers or perhaps a drop ship with AV units keeping it protected from tanks and other threats the passengers would not be invulnerable and could be sniped out or killed by various weapons as they can be now the only difference would be that they'd be able to defend and attack and still be valuable assets instead of just riding along like a lot of blue dots do this could make for some interesting Arial battles along with giving drop ship pilots a bigger role rather then just being for transport and ADS pilots could use the extra support against AV and other vehicles I think originally it was intended for infantry to be able to fire their weapons while in a drop ship (one of the old trailers for dust showcased a plasma cannon being fired from inside a drop ship)
Dropship+logi+forge heavies! Nice!
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Sicerly Yaw
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Posted - 2015.07.28 22:28:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:
Dropship+logi+forge heavies! Nice!
OP till I bring out a tripple damage mod heatsink gunnie and one shot them out of the sky lol
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Mikel Arias
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Posted - 2015.07.28 23:18:00 -
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Imagine a standard dropship. You can fit 6 people there besides the pilot, right? 5 of those guys have swarms, the other guy, as you say, its a logi who is taking care that the dropship dont fall so easily to the poor souls who are attacking it. Now, can you imagine any vehicle that could survive 20 swarms that attack at the same time? Because every shot of the swarm release 4 of those things, right?
My point, it would be OP against tanks, waaaay to OP. Even so, Im not completely against the idea, I just dont think swarms should be allowed in the dropships. A way to make this valid could be that this kind of weaponry takes out of balance the dropship, affecting the aim and impact in the target. Same with forge or even plasma cannon, but since you need certain skill to use these two I guess they would be ok, since it could be harder if the dropship is moving.
Also, something that could work against this idea is that the ADS would loose purpose, because it would be better to have six guys attacking with a dropship instead of three guys in a ADS, with a shot that could not hit the target, considering that the guys in the dropship have swams.
Again, I like the idea, but it would need a lot of work. If it were to allow only anti infantry weapons then it would be great, amazing actually. Just imagine, a poor squad under fire when you and your squad save the day giving complete air support and cleaning the area...
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Sicerly Yaw
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Posted - 2015.07.28 23:49:00 -
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Mikel Arias wrote:Imagine a standard dropship. You can fit 6 people there besides the pilot, right? 5 of those guys have swarms, the other guy, as you say, its a logi who is taking care that the dropship dont fall so easily to the poor souls who are attacking it. Now, can you imagine any vehicle that could survive 20 swarms that attack at the same time? Because every shot of the swarm release 4 of those things, right?
My point, it would be OP against tanks, waaaay to OP. Even so, Im not completely against the idea, I just dont think swarms should be allowed in the dropships. A way to make this valid could be that this kind of weaponry takes out of balance the dropship, affecting the aim and impact in the target. Same with forge or even plasma cannon, but since you need certain skill to use these two I guess they would be ok, since it could be harder if the dropship is moving.
Also, something that could work against this idea is that the ADS would loose purpose, because it would be better to have six guys attacking with a dropship instead of three guys in a ADS, with a shot that could not hit the target, considering that the guys in the dropship have swams.
Again, I like the idea, but it would need a lot of work. If it were to allow only anti infantry weapons then it would be great, amazing actually. Just imagine, a poor squad under fire when you and your squad save the day giving complete air support and cleaning the area...
It would be beautifull.
your argument = pointless
if five guys are wasting their time flying in a drop ship along with two others (logi and pilot) that's half your team that isn't doing anything to help out on the battlefield = lose
not to mention that those same people could be doing the same thing from the ground and a single logi can only give so much reps to keep the drop ship from dying it can still be easily killed by just about anything
in order to have a drop ship that's really hard to kill you'd have to have at least 3 logis and a really good pilot
the reps are mainly there so the drop ship can stay in the field longer not be invincible and like I said before a drop ship can easily be taken care of with the right tools (example I took out a double hardened maddy with a shiled tank stacked with damage mods and a heatsink in a few shots I have an enhanced plate to survive a bit longer as well) just like any tank can be taken out may not be so easy but definitely feasible
and about ads being pointless, people already use regular drop ships or even ADS with side-gunners to hunt tanks
ADS would still allow a good pilot to solo and turrets deal better damage then most if not all AV it is also faster then regular drop ships, the pilot cant take damage whereas passengers can meaning if a drop ship is flying by you can shoot the passengers out but the pilot will remain safe as long as his drop ship does not go down
what I am trying to make happen is to make drop ships be used more often along with mobile CRU's and allowing players to defend themselves while being dropped directly into battle (I would also like to see the passenger on a LAV be able to use their weapon instead of just sitting there doing practically nothing)
often at times I fly around in a mobile CRU fit dropship ADS or DS but the seats fill up and no one wants to get out, the guys at the turrets sometimes actually do something instead of just sniffing glue but other times they just waste ammo while the other guys just sit there tagging along doing absolutely nothing (perhaps if they could use their weapons they would actually do something)
I really don't see this becoming a problem although many people would complain just as they complain about anything that kills them
6 guys on the ground with AV vs 6 guys in a drop ship as passengers two gunners and 4 AV would at least make it so the pilot can dictate engagements, a bad pilot will get them killed so many players will likely learn not to hitch a ride with strangers (I will admit to taking an ADS into the redline just so a blue dot that wouldn't get out would die even if that meant I had to lose half a mill to get rid of em) a good pilot will be able to turn the tides (if the enemy team has full ground control a good pilot could get their team right into the action or take out priority targets with help from the passengers and where a DS would not be able to do anything solo an ADS would be able to continue to give support even without passengers allowing for more of the team to be on the ground controlling points or doing whatever it takes to win
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