Hi Everyone,

This is my initial comments of Dust 514. I just got the beta today and I'm hoping my input will help CCP make a better game. I'm sure the issues that I am going to point out are some points that have been iterated many times over so just bear with me.

1. Hit Detection/Lag- What the hell is this garbage? The hit detection on this game blows. It seems like my bullets are going into thin air even though I'm getting that red x. This and add the lag and you have a pretty ****** time.

This is the biggest issue with Dust. An FPS needs to have weapons and all that jazz, but hit detection is most important to an FPS. CCP get this right.

2. Weapon recoil-Dust 514, if you fix the hit detection, takes no skill. Why? There is practically no recoil on the GUNS! Not only that, Hipfire is just as accurate as ADS? Wow. Put some spread please.

3. Movement-God, Didn't know that sci-fi worlds were made of Molasses and Quicksand. The movement is so slow and clunky.

4. Weapon Switch with triangle- HELLO? Need I say more to this? Why do I have the retardo wheel? No thanks.

5. Names- It's a small feature but I would like to know who my enemies are and who my teammates are. It's probably a glitch but Sometimes, I can't see the names of my teammates at all, and I accidentally shoot them.

Overall, Dust 514 sucks super hard right now. I can't believe that this is the beta build they have for us. Keep in mind that this is the beta! That means it's one stage before going GOLD, which means that if they were to make any changes, they wouldn't be super drastic. I'm really disappointed with this game so far. An FPS needs to be smooth and the hit detection needs to be spot on. Weapons need to have recoil. Poor Show CCP.

I don't understand how you will bring this to the e-sport scene with all your Molasses Shenanigans.

E-sport suggestions. CCP has stated that in 2013 that they will expand into the e-sport scene. Well, hopefully all problems I mentioned above will be fixed. Here are some e-sport suggestions

1. Make e-sport matches to contain stock armor and stock weapons only, or open all skills, armor, and weapons to be available to everyone.

This evens the playing field making it show skill only. Everyone has access to all equipment or everyone has the same equipment.

2. No. Vehicles.

You want to showcase skill and talent? No vehicles. Gunskill only.

3. Maps- Obviously CCP has said that it will be a gladiatorial arena so I'm guessing that the maps will be small enough to support 4v4 only.

4. 4v4 is the magic number- For esports, 4v4 or sometimes 5v5 is the best number due to the fact that it is easier to communicate and work together, and it is easier for spectators to watch. Watching a 16v16 would be way to hectic. Watch any esport game that contains FPS. Counter-strike, CoD, Halo- All these games only have teams that consist of 4v4 with the exception of Counter-strike that does allow 5v5.

5. Game-modes- CTF, Escort, and a "Search and Destroy" type of game type (1 life respawn). Counter strike- has the search and destroy and escort game modes while Halo has the CTF game modes. Copy them. They got it right.

Overall, if you want to make it a good e sport game then follow these guidelines. Plus the fixes mention in the beginning. I have great hope for Dust 514 and I believe that with these fixes, it will be a great and competitive game.

what part of BETA do you not bloody get???

you are complaining about things, that are generally expected in a beta, furthermore, you are acting like it's a release game and you are reviewing it, no, you are a beta test, give feedback, report issues, don't bloody reveiw it like it's already a magical tripl a game...

I dont think you should play this then. Quite a bit will be fixed but the rest of what you used is just tranforming the game to another copy of the games you mentioned. Skills and equipment will stay. By the way the movement is quite fast if you use the lighter dropsuits and vehicles will stay and they have a verry important role.

tl;dr but its probably a lot of self entitled garbage like the rest of this forum

By the way the triangle wheel is not that big of a deal

I'm not saying that you take vehicles out of the game for public matches or corp matches. I'm saying take it out when they make the e-sports expansion in 2013.

All the issues I have stated for e-sports are like the other games because they got it right. Dust 514, if they want it to go to the e-sports level, has to make it so that it appeals to those hardcore games that want their skill only to shine not someone who has vehicles or a better dropsuit.

This is why I suggested that everyone have the same equipment and making it a small team based thing. This is the only way for Dust 514 to be at the e-sport level. Balanced Weapons, even Playing field for skill to persevere.

It is a big deal, I don't want to stop and switch my weapon by pressing the r2 button and then selecting my weapon. For all you socomers (I'm sure some of you are since most socomers went to MAG), this was a big issue in confrontation. No one liked the blue retardo wheel.

What should shine in this game is teamwork not individual skill. You may not be able to fight the vehicles but someone in your team can probably shut them down. They could have a mode where your character is vanilla and needs to use 1 of the pre sets but thats as close as it will get to what you are saying. This game is not like the ones you mentioned and its aim is different.

DUST 514 is a team based game, a real one.

Dust 514 has a long way to go until it becomes a real team based game. Currently it feels like a tech demo with some big ideas but no follow through.

If the only people playing the game are FPS snobs and masochistic Eve fans, Dust 514 will fail before CCP is able to deliver on all its promises.

Have you ever thought about why they're taking the NDA so seriously?

If the gaming public see what Dust 514 is like in its present state, it will never have a chance.

I could have pointed that out to OP, but instead I opted for the "I am not taking you seriusly at all" response.

And any beta testing requires you to embrase the masochist in you, except for the open beta's more intended for promotional purposes and not actual testing

I don't know what embrase means (le fran+ºais?), but I have been testing/developing software for over two decades. The release build is unlikely to deviate much from what we're currently playing.

I wish that weren't the case. This would be an incredible game if CCP kept it in the development phase for at least another year. Pushing it out early and dangling features by the end of a stick is just going to frustrate the FPS crowd. They're very fickle.

Yeah, it is self-entitled. When I play this game, I want to have fun, and I want the game that I want to play to be the best that it can be. So are you saying any issue that anyone brings up is self entitled? Give me a break.

It is a big deal, I don't want to stop and switch my weapon by pressing the r2 button and then selecting my weapon. For all you socomers (I'm sure some of you are since most socomers went to MAG), this was a big issue in confrontation. No one liked the blue retardo wheel.

Yes, Dust 514 has an incredible amount of potential, and I hope CCP get the opportunity to deliver on it.

But I expect the average FPS player to try Dust 514 on the 29th and be disgusted with it.

Even if all the lag, bugs, and grievances (swarm launchers, spawn camping) were fixed by then, this is still a fairly mediocre game in its current state.

But at this point people are growing tiered off the mainstream shooters like cod or bf. More and more "different" shooters grow everyday.

Edit: And hey, it's free to play.

At present, Dust 514 is a mainstream shooter with a generic capture/control game mode.

It's been confirmed that Conquest will not be included at launch, and the integration with Eve will be limited.

So the only unique feature is the skill system, which is currently an XP grind for better gear to earn more kills.


That's where a lot of my concern lies.

Dust 514 needs a sizable audience spending money on it to survive.

The sad fact is that a lot of console gamer are under the age of 18 and have been spoilt with games like cod and battlefield and the likes.

what part of BETA do you not bloody get???

you are complaining about things, that are generally expected in a beta, furthermore, you are acting like it's a release game and you are reviewing it, no, you are a beta test, give feedback, report issues, don't bloody reveiw it like it's already a magical tripl a game...

ZOmbies!

My question is any of this releveant in two-three weeks?