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Koch Rosenzweig
S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D
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Posted - 2015.07.28 13:02:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:you know when the laser rifle is OP when my gall assault decides to use it over my amarr assault.
that sounds a bit scruby
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Racro 01 Arifistan
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
590
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Posted - 2015.07.29 12:32:00 -
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Koch Rosenzweig wrote:Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:you know when the laser rifle is OP when my gall assault decides to use it over my amarr assault. that sounds a bit scruby
because scrubby is when my gall assault has no bonuses whats so ever that affetcs the performance of the laser rifle./
f.y.i I have amarr assault 3 and gall assault 5 :x
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Georgia Xavier
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.07.29 14:49:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:It's OP because I do good with it Really man?
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John Demonsbane
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.29 15:34:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Missiles are OP Khanid Scrub!
Hey! There is naught wrong with being Khanid.
Mina Longstrike wrote:I was poking about on the SDE earlier and worked out that laser rifles had a RoF of 750rpm / 12.5rps... which I believe puts them well above rail rifles in terms of damage per magazine, range and general damage output (std rail is 360ish something neutral dps, arr is 380ish), especially after it's fired about 30-40 rounds.
An amarr assault has a burn time of 6.4 seconds (80 rounds @ 12.5rounds/sec), and laser damage formula is dmg = base dmg + (scalar * # of shots fired consecutively).
Scalar = .85 on basic, to 1.10 on proto (adv should be right in the middle of basic / pro, not sure what officer scalar is).
So at 35 rounds (2.8s of fire) on a basic LR, the LR is doing 46.75 damage (roughly matching the RR's 47, assuming neutral profile & no proficiency), every round fired from that point on only increases LR damage even further... and this is on a gun that doesn't disperse or kick.
Quite a good weapon.
I'd work out a dps chart type thing, but I'm not an excel wizard... I last used it like 10 years ago.
Anyway, how odd that this popped up the one random day I decided to check the forums after god knows how long. Here you will find the damage output before overheat. There's also a link in there somewhere to the actual calculations Musta and Bamm Havoc did last year. And this is some really terrible math I did on the changes to the damage/range curve before I got bored with it and sick of the lack of progress on this game.
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
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Posted - 2015.07.29 15:39:00 -
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My lazor kill range records spread from 3m-131m
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Balistyc Farshot
MONSTER SYNERGY
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Posted - 2015.07.29 16:23:00 -
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I do think that the suits should have a cooling module like the tanks. Then HMG, Ion Pistol, and Laser can fire non-stop if you are soft. Point counter point stances.
BTW - The SCR does not need any help with heat. It needs more heat considering it never over heats.
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Georgia Xavier
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.07.29 16:24:00 -
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Balistyc Farshot wrote:I do think that the suits should have a cooling module like the tanks. Then HMG, Ion Pistol, and Laser can fire non-stop if you are soft. Point counter point stances.
BTW - The SCR does not need any help with heat. It needs more heat considering it never over heats. The AScR doesn't overheat, the ScR does, quite a lot if you don't pay attention
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VikingKong iBUN
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.07.29 16:38:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Mina Longstrike wrote:I was poking about on the SDE earlier and worked out that laser rifles had a RoF of 750rpm / 12.5rps... which I believe puts them well above rail rifles in terms of damage per magazine, range and general damage output (std rail is 360ish something neutral dps, arr is 380ish), especially after it's fired about 30-40 rounds.
An amarr assault has a burn time of 6.4 seconds (80 rounds @ 12.5rounds/sec), and laser damage formula is dmg = base dmg + (scalar * # of shots fired consecutively).
Scalar = .85 on basic, to 1.10 on proto (adv should be right in the middle of basic / pro, not sure what officer scalar is).
So at 35 rounds (2.8s of fire) on a basic LR, the LR is doing 46.75 damage (roughly matching the RR's 47, assuming neutral profile & no proficiency), every round fired from that point on only increases LR damage even further... and this is on a gun that doesn't disperse or kick.
Quite a good weapon.
I'd work out a dps chart type thing, but I'm not an excel wizard... I last used it like 10 years ago. I saw this post, and left it alone.... But this IS pretty scary?! In open fields it's a fierce weapon with all that range, but it is no good in cqc. Now if they could figure that out about the scrambler.... the cqc part... It's like a lightsaber in cqc
I would like a Gallente SMG.
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Dragonmeballs
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2015.07.29 16:52:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:What I'm afraid of is there are people out there who will take this seriously and make spreadsheets about the laser rifle
Already did it...and no I'm not telling what I figured out.
Ok....just a hint....Lazors=(Bacon+Tacos)^(Free Beer)
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Regnier Feros
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
570
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Posted - 2015.07.29 19:31:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:The Eristic wrote:It's the best weapon in the game that also happens to be one of the least used weapons in the game. I'll never understand why more people don't give it a shot these days. Laser duels are glorious.
(I would like it to have full efficiency vs LAV and DS, though.) Because it's not easy to use. The really lethal people with an LR are the people who have used it nonstop for a couple years now. Viktor hadah comes to mind. Actually beat him in a laser duel. Once. The other six times he thoroughly kicked my ass. Was fun as hell. Mortedeamor is Senpai
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XxBlazikenxX
Vader's-Fist
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Posted - 2015.07.29 19:33:00 -
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Regnier Feros wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:The Eristic wrote:It's the best weapon in the game that also happens to be one of the least used weapons in the game. I'll never understand why more people don't give it a shot these days. Laser duels are glorious.
(I would like it to have full efficiency vs LAV and DS, though.) Because it's not easy to use. The really lethal people with an LR are the people who have used it nonstop for a couple years now. Viktor hadah comes to mind. Actually beat him in a laser duel. Once. The other six times he thoroughly kicked my ass. Was fun as hell. Mortedeamor is Senpai I've never lost a laser rifle duel before.
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Georgia Xavier
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.07.29 20:34:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Regnier Feros wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:The Eristic wrote:It's the best weapon in the game that also happens to be one of the least used weapons in the game. I'll never understand why more people don't give it a shot these days. Laser duels are glorious.
(I would like it to have full efficiency vs LAV and DS, though.) Because it's not easy to use. The really lethal people with an LR are the people who have used it nonstop for a couple years now. Viktor hadah comes to mind. Actually beat him in a laser duel. Once. The other six times he thoroughly kicked my ass. Was fun as hell. Mortedeamor is Senpai I've never lost a laser rifle duel yet. FTFY
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Racro 01 Arifistan
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.07.30 02:08:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:It's OP because I do good with it Really man? don't recall typing that. way to mince/change words much.
at least I don't need to run FOTM / FOTB or myofibs(cough) to be good. besides Laser rifle acts as a great counter to heavy/logi combo. that and I;'ve been in love with my winsaer since it was introduced back pre-chromosome...........we all know those times. insta killing beams for redline to redline......am I right?
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.30 02:13:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:They get way too many people hot and bothered. #OPPLZNURF #Amarrdropitlikeitshot #Empressturninguptheheat Stay classy.
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Georgia Xavier
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.07.30 02:33:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:Georgia Xavier wrote:Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:It's OP because I do good with it Really man? don't recall typing that. way to mince/change words much. at least I don't need to run FOTM / FOTB or myofibs(cough) to be good. besides Laser rifle acts as a great counter to heavy/logi combo. that and I;'ve been in love with my winsaer since it was introduced back pre-chromosome...........we all know those times. insta killing beams for redline to redline......am I right? Touche
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