DUST Search - Grenades Suck

Draconic Presence wrote:

It sounds like grenades are just as dangerous in this game as they are in reality...and you people don't seem to appreciate it.

Do you just suck at using grenades and it upsets you when you get blown up? Or does mass driver spam bother you too?

Many seem to ***** about core locus because people who know how to cook it right can OHK, what about a properly cooked and placed M8? Same damage profile different blast radius.

Give us a grenadier class where we can swap light and sidearm for grenades. Then we can run around with 3 slots full of different grenades in a myofib stacked suit punching fools to death or blowing them up.

As a grenade user, I feel they're fine. The basic gives you an extra grenade over militia, the advanced gives a decent buff for damage, lvl. 4 gives the damage of a core but forces you to be more precise with your throw, and the core does what a grenade really should.

And packed AV grenades are dope.

Grenade spam over a hive is scrubby, but so are cloaked shotgun scouts. Or are people just using the tools at their disposal to effectively destroy their enemies?

I have to pop **** with you, because you're all a bunch of pussies.

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Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 7	Posted - 2015.07.21 21:00:00 - [1] - Quote Why must you have core locus to kill people? Militia BPO grenades only have one instead of 2 Standard only does like 200 damage And advance only does 400 which is just enough to OHK a scout. Buff lower tier grenades!!! "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 1	Posted - 2015.07.21 21:15:00 - [2] - Quote That what I always say. People want to nerf the core but you shouldn't. It's the ONLY effective grenade. The standard and advanced ones need a buff. The basic does 300, it should do 400. The advanced does 400, it should do 500. The core should remain the same with 600 damage. CEO of 48SOF Scout GK.0/Assault GK.0
Aidualc LATINOS KILLERS CORP RUST415 477	Posted - 2015.07.21 21:20:00 - [3] - Quote Tukker needs to do 750dm and 3m radius, only one as now. -- Ecce Initio -- Tomate Pote -- *Respectu, Honorem, Value, Unionem*******
DeadlyAztec11 Defenders of the Helghast Dream 8	Posted - 2015.07.21 21:28:00 - [4] - Quote You are acting like explosives don't destroy armor. Also I don't believe that every grenade should be a one shot kill because then there isn't a reason to have higher tier grenades and it turns into a win button. It's similar to why a Militia Sniper Rifle can't kill any suit with a head shot and why militia Nova Knives can't carve through every suit in one strike. Also when most advanced suits are running around with between 6-700 HP taking away 600 of that leaves you on the brink of death and completely destroys militia and standard. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
DeadlyAztec11 Defenders of the Helghast Dream 8	Posted - 2015.07.21 21:31:00 - [5] - Quote Aidualc wrote: Tukker needs to do 750dm and 3m radius, only one as now. Why not have three of them that do 350 each? That sounds a lot more reasonable. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 699	Posted - 2015.07.21 22:04:00 - [6] - Quote DeadlyAztec wrote: It's similar to why a Militia Sniper Rifle can't kill any suit with a head shot. I just put 2 damage mods on the Militia Sniper fitting and believe me that this thing can one shot anything that's under 800HP, which is A LOT. WON'T YOU PLEASE TAKE ME HOME !
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 1	Posted - 2015.07.21 22:09:00 - [7] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: You are acting like explosives don't destroy armor. Also I don't believe that every grenade should be a one shot kill because then there isn't a reason to have higher tier grenades and it turns into a win button. It's similar to why a Militia Sniper Rifle can't kill any suit with a head shot and why militia Nova Knives can't carve through every suit in one strike. Also when most advanced suits are running around with between 6-700 HP taking away 600 of that leaves you on the brink of death and completely destroys militia and standard. "Milita sniper can't headshot anyone" WHAT?? I headshot people all the time. Just yesterday, I headshotted 3 pro snipers in a row with the starterfit sniper. Nova knives are weak tho. CEO of 48SOF Scout GK.0/Assault GK.0
Union118 GamersForChrist 584	Posted - 2015.07.21 22:17:00 - [8] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Why must you have core locus to kill people? Militia BPO grenades only have one instead of 2 Standard only does like 200 damage And advance only does 400 which is just enough to OHK a scout. Buff lower tier grenades!!! I put a M1 right at someones feet and i got them to half armor with my rail and the nade didnt do any dmg. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
Larkson Crazy Eye WarRavens RUST415 112	Posted - 2015.07.21 22:17:00 - [9] - Quote I will say lower tier grenades are okay, if a bit gimpy. What I do hate however is that they cost the same far as I can tell to restock on nano hives and supply depots as higher tier stuff. it would be nice if a front line unit trying to spam their crappy grenade wouldn't lock the supply depot so I can't get anything out of it. Another glitch I'd like to see fixed is the flux grenade. While people complain about the dmg one way or another I would love to see the AoE fixed. It doesn't seem that the visual effect is the actual AoE. People inside the dome don't always loose their shields and it seems to have no vernicle hit detection. You can go threw walls with the flux, but you can't get anything on a ceiling even if you time it to explode right at the roof. This also leads to scouts simply jumping over the flux effect at times even though it looks like their inside of the dome.
fawkuima juggalo Eternal Beings 914	Posted - 2015.07.22 00:52:00 - [10] - Quote I agree, grenades suck. - LOGI REGISTRY, *LIBRARY, AND H.O.F. -

Mejt0 Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.07.22 01:21:00 - [11] - Quote Make them like eq. Cannot be restocked. And I will be happy. Loyal to The State Official Caldari Commando User
Niccolo deLuce 53	Posted - 2015.07.22 01:31:00 - [12] - Quote Larkson Crazy Eye wrote: but you can't get anything on a ceiling even if you time it to explode right at the roof. Yes they do, every time. I think you're just not realizing how thick the ceilings are some places. On the roof over the point in the production facility, on the roof with the null cannon overlooking the point where it's above the supply depot, not to mention on any of those flat roofed completely glitched buildings that everything shoots through.
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 929	Posted - 2015.07.22 02:15:00 - [13] - Quote Dude I remember those grenade spam threads. Mercs were outright having tantrums. Buff em and it will all repeat. Man, I dislike community influenced game development sometimes. Saying what's on people's minds
Union118 GamersForChrist 589	Posted - 2015.07.22 02:24:00 - [14] - Quote Just increase blast radios and shorten the fuse after you hold it and you click it with you hand. Iv noticed people just run past my nade and take no damage to what seems very close range. Iv planted one by my feet once and it didnt kill me or my opponent. Idk how but im sure its blast radios. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 7	Posted - 2015.07.22 02:38:00 - [15] - Quote Krixus Flux wrote: Dude I remember those grenade spam threads. Mercs were outright having tantrums. Buff em and it will all repeat. Man, I dislike community influenced game development sometimes. So a buff to Militia, Standard, & Advance grenades will cause people to cry about Core Locus grenades again? "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Dementia Maniaclease 65	Posted - 2015.07.22 02:49:00 - [16] - Quote No Two words Grenade spam Two more words? Heck no! Beware the mighty chinchillasaurus rex! "You live on the forums"~ my wife (o)¿(o)
Sicerly Yaw Corrosive Synergy No Context 684	Posted - 2015.07.22 03:01:00 - [17] - Quote I agree but first grande visibility needs to be increased and cooking a nade needs to either take more skill or have countermeasures as it is now unless you look in the general direction of the nade you cant see it so there's no way for you to know which way you should be going to evade it and if someone cooks it up there is almost no way to avoid it the only indicator is the beeping that it makes but that can be quickly drowned out by the sounds of other things such as rifles there isn't much of a way to avoid being hit either and the core nade has a big enough radius where you only have to throw it in the general direction to get the kill If nades were able to be shot down or pre exploded by shooting at it while the user is cooking it up there would be a risk to using them so the reward would be justified I believe it is already possible to explode an RE out of someones hands as I shot a player with a SG that was carrying around proxies and somehow got killed by a Proxy which made no sense to me but if that could happen to nades it would make things more interesting especially if a flux nade could make it go off prematurely if the heavies got a hand held shield they could block the blast and keep friendlies safe making it easier to push when there is nade spam there just needs to be ways to counter nades to make it fair and justify buffing them click here if you are making a new account and want some free BPO's
DRT 99 RAT PATROL INC. 442	Posted - 2015.07.22 03:56:00 - [18] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: That what I always say. People want to nerf the core but you shouldn't. It's the ONLY effective grenade. The standard and advanced ones need a buff. The basic does 300, it should do 400. The advanced does 400, it should do 500. The core should remain the same with 600 damage. grenades used to do these exact numbers, but then CCP nerfed them out of the blue for no appearant reason, leaving cores (that were already overperforming, according to some) as they are.
Draconic Presence Bad Blueberries 32	Posted - 2015.07.22 04:07:00 - [19] - Quote It sounds like grenades are just as dangerous in this game as they are in reality...and you people don't seem to appreciate it. Do you just suck at using grenades and it upsets you when you get blown up? Or does mass driver spam bother you too? Many seem to *** about core locus because people who know how to cook it right can OHK, what about a properly cooked and placed M8? Same damage profile different blast radius. Give us a grenadier class where we can swap light and sidearm for grenades. Then we can run around with 3 slots full of different grenades in a myofib stacked suit punching fools to death or blowing them up. As a grenade user, I feel they're fine. The basic gives you an extra grenade over militia, the advanced gives a decent buff for damage, lvl. 4 gives the damage of a core but forces you to be more precise with your throw, and the core does what a grenade really should. And packed AV grenades are dope. Grenade spam over a hive is scrubby, but so are cloaked shotgun scouts. Or are people just using the tools at their disposal to effectively destroy their enemies? I have to pop ** with you, because you're all a bunch of pussies. Always ready for Gallente FW or ambush. Stack ISK, SP, and LP. Lookin' for chill people to squad up 0200-0600.
D4GG3R 0uter.Heaven 1	Posted - 2015.07.22 05:10:00 - [20] - Quote Aidualc wrote: Tukker needs to do 750dm and 3m radius, only one as now. This guy obviously wasn't around for contact Nades in their prime I'm pretty plain. I watch anime for the boobs

Loyal Glasses G.L.O.R.Y 86	Posted - 2015.07.22 05:39:00 - [21] - Quote Just give shield's a higher resistance to explosives maybe 60% Glasses of the Loyal Variety > "The dead are notoriously unproductive "
Larkson Crazy Eye WarRavens RUST415 116	Posted - 2015.07.22 06:24:00 - [22] - Quote Draconic Presence wrote: It sounds like grenades are just as dangerous in this game as they are in reality...and you people don't seem to appreciate it. Do you just suck at using grenades and it upsets you when you get blown up? Or does mass driver spam bother you too? Many seem to *** about core locus because people who know how to cook it right can OHK, what about a properly cooked and placed M8? Same damage profile different blast radius. Give us a grenadier class where we can swap light and sidearm for grenades. Then we can run around with 3 slots full of different grenades in a myofib stacked suit punching fools to death or blowing them up. As a grenade user, I feel they're fine. The basic gives you an extra grenade over militia, the advanced gives a decent buff for damage, lvl. 4 gives the damage of a core but forces you to be more precise with your throw, and the core does what a grenade really should. And packed AV grenades are dope. Grenade spam over a hive is scrubby, but so are cloaked shotgun scouts. Or are people just using the tools at their disposal to effectively destroy their enemies? I have to pop ** with you, because you're all a bunch of pussies. You know for all you people quoting realism on grenades you seem to ignore the rest of the Dust world. Getting run over by a freaking drop ship or tank doesn't always kill you. A 80mm cannon takes several shots to kill you... Mass drivers, lasers, sniper riffles, machine guns etc all take several shots for the most part to kill a decently outfitted suit. Yet you try and claim a grenade should kill 90% of the suits out there in one shot because grenades are dangerous in real life? How man times you surived getting hosed down by an assault riffle? Should everything in Dust be one shot, one kill because they are dangerous in real life?
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 7	Posted - 2015.07.22 06:26:00 - [23] - Quote Loyal Glasses wrote: Just give shield's a higher resistance to explosives maybe 60% They already have a natural 20% and if you're a Sentinel you get and additional 10% to splash damage resistance which brings it up to 30% "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Dementia Maniaclease 66	Posted - 2015.07.22 15:30:00 - [24] - Quote If the damage gets modified Then I would make a suggestion The "frag" grenades should act like frags Lethal within 1 meters less damage further out, Between 1 and 3 meters 50% dmg 3 to 4 meters 15 % This way "balance" would be kept Beware the mighty chinchillasaurus rex! "You live on the forums"~ my wife (o)¿(o)
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.07.22 15:54:00 - [25] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Aidualc wrote: Tukker needs to do 750dm and 3m radius, only one as now. Why not have three of them that do 350 each? That sounds a lot more reasonable. Because that's basically a flaylock Currently listening to: Tsukihime OST Un-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.07.22 15:55:00 - [26] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Loyal Glasses wrote: Just give shield's a higher resistance to explosives maybe 60% They already have a natural 20% and if you're a Sentinel you get and additional 10% to splash damage resistance which brings it up to 30% If you get killed by explosives as a sentinel, you need to learn to AFK in the MCC, not in the city. Currently listening to: Tsukihime OST Un-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
Larkson Crazy Eye WarRavens RUST415 116	Posted - 2015.07.22 15:56:00 - [27] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Loyal Glasses wrote: Just give shield's a higher resistance to explosives maybe 60% They already have a natural 20% and if you're a Sentinel you get and additional 10% to splash damage resistance which brings it up to 30% If you get killed by explosives as a sentinel, you need to learn to AFK in the MCC, not in the city. Well other than remotes cause well those pack a punch. You might survive a basic explosive if your at full HP and shields, but other wise they will one shot you pretty easily.
Alcina Nektaria KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 41	Posted - 2015.07.22 16:06:00 - [28] - Quote The only reason for the recent hate on grenades is that more people are using them... Get over it. It's a damn explosive weapon so OF COURSE it is going to do major damage. BACK OFF MY NADES HO' *KEQ Diplomat* Gallente Loyalist ... Come at me bro. A grenade to the head will most certainly get you dead.
Balistyc Farshot MONSTER SYNERGY 312	Posted - 2015.07.22 16:10:00 - [29] - Quote I don't find grenades dangerous at all. Sorry, I just shrug them off. I would like to see maybe the cal sent get resist to flux nades over explosives. I also would like the other sents bonus against explosives up to make it worth while, but that is me being greedy. What we need is more variety in grenades. Provide an explosive grenade with a huge blast radius but smaller dmg output for anti scouts. They could also make a grenade that sticks to surfaces, for those fun throws onto roofs and other elevated positions. Don't change, add to increase the options and wash out the calls for change. Like they did with sidearms. "Dying with your rep tool out - the logi-flasher!" Who hasn't been caught by a cute little female scout doing this?
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.07.22 17:46:00 - [30] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: That what I always say. People want to nerf the core but you shouldn't. It's the ONLY effective grenade. The standard and advanced ones need a buff. The basic does 300, it should do 400. The advanced does 400, it should do 500. The core should remain the same with 600 damage. I personally don't think grenades should be an opt out of actual combat. They do too much damage (at least the Core) over too much range. You should have to choose between doing high damage (such as the Packed grenade) or higher range (7.2m core), IMO. Volunteer For The PSD! Design A SKIN 2



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