DUST Search - Loyalty in Factional

Sgt Kirk wrote:

Union118 wrote:

The word loyaly is a joke in this game. Loyalty points should be based on a how truely loyal to your faction or race you are.

If i pick a race and my race is Caldari and i go to fight for my faction. Then i shouldn't be using amar or any other races or factions gear to fight for my faction.

I should get my loyalty points based on that and nothing else. The game isnt like the real world during times of war. You know that the enemy is red and the allies are blue. So there is no reason to look like a minmatar fighting for the caldari.

All this being said i know that some races have gear and suits suited to beat other races but then thats all the more reason to use other suits from the same faction you are fighting for.

If non of the suits or weapons from that faction or race are able to beat the opposing race then we as the gamers need to present that to the developers to balance it out. There really shoulnt be a reason why one faction has to be stronger than another. You pick a race and use their suits and weapons. You get loyalty point for staying loyal despire the faction war out come.

Let me know what yall think.

Maybe better pay compensation for weapons of that race.

Like now we have a pay system in Faction Warfare that replaces some of what you loss.

If you are using their racial equipment then it compensates another 20% for the item(s) you lost during battle.

I don't want anything a disadvantage to run other racial items, I just want to promoting racial conformity.

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Union118 GamersForChrist 572	Posted - 2015.07.21 00:13:00 - [1] - Quote The word loyaly is a joke in this game. Loyalty points should be based on a how truely loyal to your faction or race you are. If i pick a race and my race is Caldari and i go to fight for my faction. Then i shouldn't be using amar or any other races or factions gear to fight for my faction. I should get my loyalty points based on that and nothing else. The game isnt like the real world during times of war. You know that the enemy is red and the allies are blue. So there is no reason to look like a minmatar fighting for the caldari. All this being said i know that some races have gear and suits suited to beat other races but then thats all the more reason to use other suits from the same faction you are fighting for. If non of the suits or weapons from that faction or race are able to beat the opposing race then we as the gamers need to present that to the developers to balance it out. There really shoulnt be a reason why one faction has to be stronger than another. You pick a race and use their suits and weapons. You get loyalty point for staying loyal despire the faction war out come. Let me know what yall think. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
Sgt Kirk Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.07.21 00:17:00 - [2] - Quote Union118 wrote: The word loyaly is a joke in this game. Loyalty points should be based on a how truely loyal to your faction or race you are. If i pick a race and my race is Caldari and i go to fight for my faction. Then i shouldn't be using amar or any other races or factions gear to fight for my faction. I should get my loyalty points based on that and nothing else. The game isnt like the real world during times of war. You know that the enemy is red and the allies are blue. So there is no reason to look like a minmatar fighting for the caldari. All this being said i know that some races have gear and suits suited to beat other races but then thats all the more reason to use other suits from the same faction you are fighting for. If non of the suits or weapons from that faction or race are able to beat the opposing race then we as the gamers need to present that to the developers to balance it out. There really shoulnt be a reason why one faction has to be stronger than another. You pick a race and use their suits and weapons. You get loyalty point for staying loyal despire the faction war out come. Let me know what yall think. Maybe better pay compensation for weapons of that race. Like now we have a pay system in Faction Warfare that replaces some of what you loss. If you are using their racial equipment then it compensates another 20% for the item(s) you lost during battle. I don't want anything a disadvantage to run other racial items, I just want to promoting racial conformity. Sgt Kirk's Official Propaganda Youtube Channel
Union118 GamersForChrist 572	Posted - 2015.07.21 00:27:00 - [3] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Union118 wrote: The word loyaly is a joke in this game. Loyalty points should be based on a how truely loyal to your faction or race you are. If i pick a race and my race is Caldari and i go to fight for my faction. Then i shouldn't be using amar or any other races or factions gear to fight for my faction. I should get my loyalty points based on that and nothing else. The game isnt like the real world during times of war. You know that the enemy is red and the allies are blue. So there is no reason to look like a minmatar fighting for the caldari. All this being said i know that some races have gear and suits suited to beat other races but then thats all the more reason to use other suits from the same faction you are fighting for. If non of the suits or weapons from that faction or race are able to beat the opposing race then we as the gamers need to present that to the developers to balance it out. There really shoulnt be a reason why one faction has to be stronger than another. You pick a race and use their suits and weapons. You get loyalty point for staying loyal despire the faction war out come. Let me know what yall think. Maybe better pay compensation for weapons of that race. Like now we have a pay system in Faction Warfare that replaces some of what you loss. If you are using their racial equipment then it compensates another 20% for the item(s) you lost during battle. I don't want anything a disadvantage to run other racial items, I just want to promoting racial conformity. Whatever gets people to use more of their factions or races gear and weapons that they are fighting for. Give the word loyalty its ultimate meaning. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 690	Posted - 2015.07.21 00:31:00 - [4] - Quote I like the idea of using that Factions gear you are fighting for. Ultimately in the end to receive a boosted payout of LP. Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!! a¦á_a¦á Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
Union118 GamersForChrist 572	Posted - 2015.07.21 00:34:00 - [5] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: I like the idea of using that Factions gear you are fighting for. Ultimately in the end to receive a boosted payout of LP. Right and even if your faction was to lose the match you should get more than 200 LP just for sheer effort and being completely loyal. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.21 00:37:00 - [6] - Quote There are many forms of loyalty just as loyalists do. Restrictions to one races technologies do determine loyalty only the willingness to commit time and effort to something, in this case one of Dust 514's four main Empire Faction. Loyalists come in many different forms some are like PIE Inc which do as you said only use Amarrian weapons and Dropsuits while others who are no less valuable make use of what is most practical to their needs. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Squagga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 956	Posted - 2015.07.21 01:22:00 - [7] - Quote I think it's really dumb when someone is using a state assault ck.0 while fighting for the gallente. There is a certain amount of logic behind it. But I still think it's dumb. Anyways, this isn't communist Russia where you have to use a certain gear, fighting for a certain faction Shields, the silent killer.
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 239	Posted - 2015.07.21 01:46:00 - [8] - Quote 2 other current threads are addressing this right now .
Union118 GamersForChrist 573	Posted - 2015.07.21 01:52:00 - [9] - Quote Squagga wrote: I think it's really dumb when someone is using a state assault ck.0 while fighting for the gallente. There is a certain amount of logic behind it. But I still think it's dumb. Anyways, this isn't communist Russia where you have to use a certain gear, fighting for a certain faction Maybe not in pubs but still why call it loyalty then. The system is broken in its meaning. Instead of loyalty points it should be called traitor points. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 241	Posted - 2015.07.21 02:55:00 - [10] - Quote Union118 wrote: Squagga wrote: I think it's really dumb when someone is using a state assault ck.0 while fighting for the gallente. There is a certain amount of logic behind it. But I still think it's dumb. Anyways, this isn't communist Russia where you have to use a certain gear, fighting for a certain faction Maybe not in pubs but still why call it loyalty then. The system is broken in its meaning. Instead of loyalty points it should be called traitor points. Traitor points lol.. Exactly

Jammer Jalapeno Kirjuun Heiian 259	Posted - 2015.07.21 03:20:00 - [11] - Quote I do agree with what your saying here but, what about allied races? For instance I am Amarr and I do enjoy my racial suits and weapons, but I also like to fight for my Caldari allies as well rocking the Amarr gear. MmMmMm Glitter
Jammer Jalapeno Kirjuun Heiian 259	Posted - 2015.07.21 03:24:00 - [12] - Quote Haha my bad I read your post wrong lol MmMmMm Glitter
Union118 GamersForChrist 574	Posted - 2015.07.21 04:17:00 - [13] - Quote Jammer Jalapeno wrote: I do agree with what your saying here but, what about allied races? For instance I am Amarr and I do enjoy my racial suits and weapons, but I also like to fight for my Caldari allies as well rocking the Amarr gear. Idk maybe get half the LP and a gold star? Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
Golden Day Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2015.07.21 04:23:00 - [14] - Quote Union118 wrote: Jammer Jalapeno wrote: I do agree with what your saying here but, what about allied races? For instance I am Amarr and I do enjoy my racial suits and weapons, but I also like to fight for my Caldari allies as well rocking the Amarr gear. Idk maybe get half the LP and a smiley face sticker? FTFY Im just a glorified blueberry
Cesar Geronimo DUST University Ivy League 18	Posted - 2015.07.21 07:55:00 - [15] - Quote Union118 wrote: The word loyaly is a joke in this game. Loyalty points should be based on a how truely loyal to your faction or race you are. If i pick a race and my race is Caldari and i go to fight for my faction. Then i shouldn't be using amar or any other races or factions gear to fight for my faction. I should get my loyalty points based on that and nothing else. The game isnt like the real world during times of war. You know that the enemy is red and the allies are blue. So there is no reason to look like a minmatar fighting for the caldari. All this being said i know that some races have gear and suits suited to beat other races but then thats all the more reason to use other suits from the same faction you are fighting for. If non of the suits or weapons from that faction or race are able to beat the opposing race then we as the gamers need to present that to the developers to balance it out. There really shoulnt be a reason why one faction has to be stronger than another. You pick a race and use their suits and weapons. You get loyalty point for staying loyal despire the faction war out come. Let me know what yall think. Agreed... I've always felt I deserved at least a little bonus slogging through Gal FW with strictly GAL suits/gear...A few extra standings points would be nice...
jane stalin free dropships for newbs 369	Posted - 2015.07.21 10:50:00 - [16] - Quote I don't think it would be hard to implement a suit and weapons loyalty reward, The game keeps track of favorite suit and weapon anyway,
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 10	Posted - 2015.07.21 12:00:00 - [17] - Quote What is the point of this in a game universe where results and success are what matters, not how hard you kiss a faction's ass by showcasing their shinies. This idea is pointless and needlessly punishes people for playing actual mercenaries, you know, the actual premise of the game? WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Union118 GamersForChrist 579	Posted - 2015.07.21 12:04:00 - [18] - Quote jane stalin wrote: I don't think it would be hard to implement a suit and weapons loyalty reward, The game keeps track of favorite suit and weapon anyway, Hey not to be a freeloader or anything but can i have a free dropship cuz im a newb? Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
Union118 GamersForChrist 579	Posted - 2015.07.21 12:20:00 - [19] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: What is the point of this in a game universe where results and success are what matters, not how hard you kiss a faction's ass by showcasing their shinies. This idea is pointless and needlessly punishes people for playing actual mercenaries, you know, the actual premise of the game? Results and success but not fun and fairness. You only care for the things that pad KDR. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.07.21 12:48:00 - [20] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: I like the idea of using that Factions gear you are fighting for. Ultimately in the end to receive a boosted payout of LP. It's a good idea in theory, terrible in practice. Minmatar would be the only race with HMG's, Rep Tools and Remotes. Amarr would be the race with Uplinks. Gallente would be the only race with Scanners and Shotguns Caldari would be the only race with AV, Hives, and Injectors. Lack of full Heavy weapon, AV, and Equipment Disparity makes running that idea nearly impossible. It limits the teams far too much. However, limiting the dropsuits would definitely be possible. I would support that. Would make the FW meta interesting. In Min factional, you would know that the entire team is going to be armor tanking to some degree. Maybe we would see more Shield or Brick tanked Amarr suits to counter? Gallente know that Caldari are almost exclusively shields, we would see a lot of them packing hybrid shield tanks and running Tac AR's to counter the range, etc. It would be interesting, to say the least. Currently listening to: Tsukihime OST Un-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;

First Prophet Nos Nothi 3	Posted - 2015.07.21 16:15:00 - [21] - Quote Golden Day wrote: Union118 wrote: Jammer Jalapeno wrote: I do agree with what your saying here but, what about allied races? For instance I am Amarr and I do enjoy my racial suits and weapons, but I also like to fight for my Caldari allies as well rocking the Amarr gear. Idk maybe get half the LP and a smiley face sticker? FTFY An Amarr turned down something gold? Someone call the faction police. People found this review helpful!
Jammer Jalapeno Kirjuun Heiian 260	Posted - 2015.07.21 19:31:00 - [22] - Quote I'm more of a platinum gold kinda girl MmMmMm Glitter
Foo Fighting Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 420	Posted - 2015.07.21 19:52:00 - [23] - Quote Loyalty Points are awarded for fighting for the faction not for using the factions stuff. You owe it to the faction to use the best stuff you can to win. Loyalty Points are just currency like gift cards or stors vouchers, only redeemable at that particular store.
Union118 GamersForChrist 581	Posted - 2015.07.21 20:44:00 - [24] - Quote Foo Fighting wrote: Loyalty Points are awarded for fighting for the faction not for using the factions stuff. You owe it to the faction to use the best stuff you can to win. Loyalty Points are just currency like gift cards or stors vouchers, only redeemable at that particular store. Right lets fight for Ross n dress for less and get target gift cards. Makes total sence. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
Union118 GamersForChrist 581	Posted - 2015.07.21 20:46:00 - [25] - Quote Jammer Jalapeno wrote: I'm more of a platinum gold kinda girl Eh to rich for my blood i prefer a black carbon platinum right with black a black diamond embeded into it. Looks wicked too. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
jane stalin free dropships for newbs 370	Posted - 2015.07.21 20:58:00 - [26] - Quote Union118 wrote: jane stalin wrote: I don't think it would be hard to implement a suit and weapons loyalty reward, The game keeps track of favorite suit and weapon anyway, Hey not to be a freeloader or anything but can i have a free dropship cuz im a newb? I would spawn them for in a game, Have a 1000000 ISK , buy lots of dropships and learn to fly, I suggest you watch videos on youtube
Cesar Geronimo DUST University Ivy League 19	Posted - 2015.07.22 05:37:00 - [27] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: What is the point of this in a game universe where results and success are what matters, not how hard you kiss a faction's ass by showcasing their shinies. This idea is pointless and needlessly punishes people for playing actual mercenaries, you know, the actual premise of the game? I'm not asking for a HUGE bonus, just a small one to make it worthwhile...
Foo Fighting Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 422	Posted - 2015.07.22 19:40:00 - [28] - Quote Union118 wrote: Foo Fighting wrote: Loyalty Points are awarded for fighting for the faction not for using the factions stuff. You owe it to the faction to use the best stuff you can to win. Loyalty Points are just currency like gift cards or stors vouchers, only redeemable at that particular store. Right lets fight for Ross n dress for less and get target gift cards. Makes total sence. No it's like working at a Nike store while wearing Adidas trainers and getting paid in Nike vouchers. Makes total sense.


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