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Skihids
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.07.18 15:50:00 -
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I've got all vehicle upgrade skills to 5 for dropships, along with HAV Operations 1 and Large Blaster Operations 1.
How far would I need to bump these (and related proficiency) to enjoy this reputed invincibility? Does one need a prototype tank, or will a lesser tank do? Does the main gun need high skills?
Is there a less expensive "best fit" that would be good for training when I'm still likely to lose a ride due to inexperience?
I've got 10M SP to throw at the project, but I'd rather not spend all of it if I don't have to. |
Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
371
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Posted - 2015.07.18 16:00:00 -
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You will need to soak that 10 mil in and throw another 20 on top.
Then travel back in time and learn every bad corner and ridge, bad rdv drop area.
Spend 2 months memorizing the sound of AV and the corresponding projectile.
Forget all the foot control buttons.
Kiss your wallet twice and maybe a long hug.
Develop forest chameleon style eye control.
Grow a healthy fear for the sound of an LAV.
Master some form of meditation.
Only read true adamance posts.
Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå
Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
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Ghosts Chance
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.18 16:03:00 -
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learn to turret glitch with a railgun
learn all the fireing lines and how to shoot through cracks in terrain
learn to lead shots
learn when to rush and when to backoff
learn to manae cooldowns
learn to never stop moving (with some exceptions)
learn every glitch that can make everything go wrong and how not to fall victim to them
learn to drive backwards without looking at whats behind you
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
371
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Posted - 2015.07.18 16:07:00 -
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Or just run a double reg missile gunni and hunt madrugars.
Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå
Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
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Ghosts Chance
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.18 16:09:00 -
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Devadander wrote:Or just run a double reg missile gunni and hunt madrugars.
regulators? are they fixed now? how effective are they?
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Skihids
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.07.18 16:12:00 -
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Devadander wrote:You will need to soak that 10 mil in and throw another 20 on top.
Really? What skills need so much love over the vehicle upgrade? |
Ghosts Chance
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.18 16:13:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Devadander wrote:You will need to soak that 10 mil in and throw another 20 on top. Really? What skills need so much love over the vehicle upgrade?
turret fitting optimisation 5 for large AND small turrets
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
10
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Posted - 2015.07.18 16:15:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Skihids wrote:Devadander wrote:You will need to soak that 10 mil in and throw another 20 on top. Really? What skills need so much love over the vehicle upgrade? turret fitting optimisation 5 for large AND small turrets
He's not exaggerating by much.
the PG/CPU on HAVs is so tight that a flea would have a hard time fitting his wang in the gap.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.07.18 16:19:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:
regulators? are they fixed now? how effective are they?
Tested again one month ago.
Non feasible for use.
Too high fitting costs to justify the use over other forms of tanking. That cost makes them being low slot irrelevant.
About battlefield efficiency, those reductive bonuses tend always to be feeble. The time difference is not that big.
Furthermore, the fact that shield recharge can be so easily interrupted often negates the benefits of the module.
If shield tanker is gonna heal himself, we will have to hide. While there, it does not matter if recharge kicks in 1 or 2 seconds earlier as you gonna spend 10-30 seconds there anyways.
And finally, it's better to have EHP to reach that cover, it is little use to have faster recharge there if you can't even reach it.
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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Skihids
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.07.18 16:50:00 -
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So seriously, what skills would I need to fit a good training tank? Something good enough to learn the trade without being the total end game?
Something that maybe used an Advanced large blaster and sacrificed one or two of the small turrets.
I'm thinking a defensive fit that sacrifices a bit in offense so I can live long enough to learn the driving skills. |
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CRAZYHORSE ONE EIGHT
CowTek
90
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Posted - 2015.07.18 16:52:00 -
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30-40mil in vehicles will help but the biggest factor is 'tarded red dots.
I can solo a g.v0 witha good av suit and go 20+ for 0 with a soma. The difference is good av. |
Skihids
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
3
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Posted - 2015.07.18 21:35:00 -
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So once again, is a GK1 a good choice and if so what's the suggested fitting for it? |
Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
975
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Posted - 2015.07.18 21:51:00 -
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The best anti infantry tank you can make is the following (it's the cheapest)
Adv maddie
Basic blaster
2 basic hardeners and heavy reps
Basic scanner, basic fuel injector
And lastly a heatsink, damage mod, or dispersion mod. Your choice.
CEO of 48th Special Operations Force
Twitter-@48SOF
Scout and Assault GK.0/Rattati and Scotsman GK.0
OFF/EXP GEAR
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Smoky The Bear
THE SMOKIN GUNZ
Dark Taboo
195
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Posted - 2015.07.18 21:53:00 -
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Why the hell do we still have this tank issue? Been here since closed beta and have never seen an appropriate tank yet.. Without getting in depth.. Nerf speed, so they cant do 90 in reverse would be a good start..
Even CCP isn't stupid enough to leave the forever hardened thing in place.. For longer than 3 years
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
975
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Posted - 2015.07.18 21:54:00 -
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I personally prefer gunnlogis for some reason.
Do this fit-
Adv gunnie
Basic blaster
2 adv extender
3 basic hardener.
Pg/cpu mods.
CEO of 48th Special Operations Force
Twitter-@48SOF
Scout and Assault GK.0/Rattati and Scotsman GK.0
OFF/EXP GEAR
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Mina Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3
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Posted - 2015.07.18 21:59:00 -
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Being as this is a thread about vehicle use I'd like to advertise the locker room thread "Heavy Treads" which is oriented towards vehicle use, I've been trying to foster a vehicle community forum similar to that of the other threads like the barbershop etc. I'll happily edit to provide a link to it once I'm not posting from mobile.
Now on topic the current "meta" fit of vehicles is 2x hardener, plate & repper which provides incredible ehp values and really high effective reps/s
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Skihids
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
3
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Posted - 2015.07.19 05:00:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:The best anti infantry tank you can make is the following (it's the cheapest)
Adv maddie
Basic blaster
2 basic hardeners and heavy reps
Basic scanner, basic fuel injector
And lastly a heatsink, damage mod, or dispersion mod. Your choice.
Thanks for the reply. That's exactly what I was looking for and it won't cost me a ton of additional SP to be able to play with. |
Frisky Piranha
Appledash is Appletrash
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Posted - 2015.07.19 08:07:00 -
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You asked for the best survival (isk farming) tank, not one for infantry suppression. That maddie is going to regularly have rails, missles and orbitals sniffing around its ass. Best isk farmer is C/1 with 3 hardeners two complex extenders and militia rail. That'll hardly put a dent in your SP to boot. |
Skihids
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
3
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Posted - 2015.07.19 13:09:00 -
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I want to learn a new role and take advantage of the vehicular SP that I've already spent.
I'm looking for a fun fit to learn the art of driving that is not too fragile for a beginner.
The first one feels like it should work. I can go killing but will also learn what hunts a tank and can learn to avoid it.
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tffvbhb
Pile 'em Up
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Posted - 2015.07.19 13:20:00 -
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Skihids wrote:I've got all vehicle upgrade skills to 5 for dropships, along with HAV Operations 1 and Large Blaster Operations 1.
How far would I need to bump these (and related proficiency) to enjoy this reputed invincibility? Does one need a prototype tank, or will a lesser tank do? Does the main gun need high skills?
Is there a less expensive "best fit" that would be good for training when I'm still likely to lose a ride due to inexperience?
I've got 10M SP to throw at the project, but I'd rather not spend all of it if I don't have to.
Use militia tank until you get used to it |
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
385
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Posted - 2015.07.19 18:49:00 -
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Armor
Plate
Rep
Hardener
Play with the extra slot till you find something you like.
For rails, heat sink and damage.
For blaster, turbo and either damage or heat sink, possibly dispersion.
Missiles, double damage.
Shield
Extender
Hardener
Regulator ( the cost is high but I swear by them)
Rails, damage damage damage.
Blasters, don't.
Missiles, damage and turbo.
Small blasters are a nope.
Small missiles if your gunners have bad aim.
Small rails if your gunners have good aim.
Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå
Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
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Cesar Geronimo
DUST University
Ivy League
15
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Posted - 2015.07.19 20:02:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Skihids wrote:Devadander wrote:You will need to soak that 10 mil in and throw another 20 on top. Really? What skills need so much love over the vehicle upgrade? turret fitting optimisation 5 for large AND small turrets
+1
I have a 15m vehicle alt and while it's decent, I still feel it's only half done... |
KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2015.07.20 00:12:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:The best anti infantry tank you can make is the following (it's the cheapest)
Adv maddie
Basic blaster
2 basic hardeners and heavy reps
Basic scanner, basic fuel injector
And lastly a heatsink, damage mod, or dispersion mod. Your choice. Thanks for the reply. That's exactly what I was looking for and it won't cost me a ton of additional SP to be able to play with.
I'm gonna warn that without plates the tank is very vulnerable to Lai Dai grenades. If you want to / need to keep yourself safe from those, then you limit your ability to slay infantry with your blaster.
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2015.07.20 00:14:00 -
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tffvbhb wrote:
Use militia tank until you get used to it
While a good idea to start cheap, these standard tanks of today are almost as cheap with lots of more potential.
I suggest making the choice taking that into consideration.
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.07.20 00:40:00 -
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For a madrugars it's : plate, rep, double hard, nitro, heat sink + whatever you can fit there
It's easier to fit rail maddy than blaster. Thus opt. skill on blaster is needed.
You don't exactly need as much sp to build a good tank. But you need quite an amount to get everything out of them.
Overall, you need to practise + a keyboard to drive a madrugar.
With a controller you can't manoeuvre as well.
Ps. right of now, Madrugar is the tank to pick
Loyal to The State
Official Caldari Commando User
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