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Sergeant Sazu
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Posted - 2015.07.18 00:06:00 -
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Thokk Nightshade wrote:I will use a rep tool occasionally when I logi. It is "better money" to use a basic/standard one than a proto because the longer you rep, the more WP you get.
If they want to fix rep tools, just change the WP they give based on the equipment
Proto: 25 Adv: 15 Std/Mlt: 5
See if more people don't break out proto rep tools if they want to rep. They will repair faster so less WP gained per and there is an excuse to do something OTHER than just rep the whole time and milk points off teammates.
Incorrect. The rate of triage WP gain is based on the amount of armor repaired, not the amount of time repairing.
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Sergeant Sazu
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Posted - 2015.07.18 00:59:00 -
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Rep tools generate way too much WP, that I agree with. My record is 1,119,000 ISK in a public Skirmish.
Otherwise, your unveiled bias and lack of understanding is not proving anything. It's easy to say "they just hold R1 the whole match", but do tell what slayers do. That's right, I could say the same thing.
There's a lot of positioning and awareness that goes into healing allies that are under fire. You have to work around their movements and not get in their way. There's a considerable amount of thought that goes into being a logi, just like being a slayer.
And for the record; I fight just like everyone else and pull out the rep tool whenever someone needs it. That's what logis should be.
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Sergeant Sazu
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Posted - 2015.07.18 01:17:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Slayers just hold R1....? Seriously? Yes. You tried to dumb down the other side to further your own argument. I'm throwing it back at you to show you how illogical it is.
Bradric Banewolf wrote:Unveiled bias is funny since I am a logo lol! Ask anyone who has fought me in PC what I'm likely to be running mostly. The fit I run in my tank is a logi. That's not being a logi. That's hopping out to drop links or a scan, then doing tank stuff, correct?
Bradric Banewolf wrote:You guys give "reppers" the credit "logies" deserve smh?! Nope. The guys who remain locked-on to allies endlessly even when their HP is full are what we call "tourist logis". They're the guys who do it for the broken amount of WP that triage gives, not because they actually want to be a support unit.
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Sergeant Sazu
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Posted - 2015.07.18 01:39:00 -
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Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:You guys give "reppers" the credit "logies" deserve smh?! Nope. The guys who remain locked-on to allies endlessly even when their HP is full are what we call "tourist logis". They're the guys who do it for the broken amount of WP that triage gives, not because they actually want to be a support unit. To be fair it's a valid tactic in a tight defensive location when you know dmg will be incoming. You don't want to run around the map attached to some guys back but it has it's uses. You can hide out of the line of fire while giving that heavy/assault an extra second or two of life. 60-100ish HP per sec will make a huge difference. But it has to be done before the person is hurt. If you wait till they are already getting shot then it's to late. Their dead before you switched to your rep tool and locked on to them. Never mind how hard it is to lock on to target in a crowded area with people always stepping in the way. It's easier to stay locked on to your squad mate most of the time. As a purely out of combat tool the rep tool is kind of lame. Most people barely have enough armor to give you one tick of the WP, nor do they even need it. If you have less than 400 armor you'll repair on your own in under 30 seconds most of the time. Which means if the logi is not already there, your good on your own by the time they move over to you. Which again if you remove pro active healing from logi's you might as well not have a rep tool and just go with other equipment. You can go the whole match without some one being noticeably hurt. In many fights you can just carry a needle and forget the rep tool if your honest. A lot of suits like scouts have nothing between alive and dead so the rep tool barely helps.
Agreed. If someone is consistently getting shot, I'll keep the rep tool on.
I logi when I squad with my corpmates, and I'm very familiar with their different fighting styles. When I know my Galmando friend is about to step in front of 3+ dudes, I'm locking on before he loses shield to prevent him from getting insta-killed. That's how we survive as a mobile unit against greater odds. Otherwise, I fight alongside him.
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Sergeant Sazu
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Posted - 2015.07.18 01:41:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:So what I'm doing is flawed, but "tourist logis" get the pass of the century lol! About to go hold R1, and get these kills in my logi lol!
What?
I tried to comprehend what you're saying, and my brain was like...
"What?"
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Sergeant Sazu
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Posted - 2015.07.18 01:50:00 -
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MrShooter01 wrote:Another popular logi misconception, building on this: many think that stabbing someone with a **** 30% needle for 30wp and repping is worth the most points... except no
**** that noise. Most suits when revived at 30% might give 2, maybe 3 hits of triage points, time a bad logi is probably wasting with a crap basic rep tool (for "more" points!). If the downed friendly is a scout, caldari, or militia, good luck even getting one triage reward. So for all that wrangling with different tools, the logi gets 30WP revive and +25-50WP repair.
Meanwhile, a proto needle will give you a guaranteed +90WP every time, even if you revive a militia caldari light. You don't have to **** around with a repair tool, he's ready for action right away. Most suits will regenerate that last 20% before seeing another enemy, a sentinel picked up in the heat of combat with a proto needle is ready to **** up everything threatening you like an angry grizzly bear waking from hibernation.
Surely something so awesome must cost 30k isk?
Nope
For only 7,050 isk, you too can be surrounded by cool people in proto suits who want you to plunge your thick black pro needle into their prone forms
That's less than the price of an advanced gun!
So, people. Please. Next time you complete a daily mission for an isk reward, buy a few dozen Wiyrkomi injectors, and replace the sharpened bit of PVC pipe you call a militia needle with them. Everyone will thank you.
Or at least some KIN-012s ffs, they give 60wp, barely take any more fitting resources than militia, and I KNOW you have dozens sitting there in your inventory from strongbox drops, ones that don't even require skill level 3
I always run a proto needle. Having someone instantly battle ready while I tend to other thing (like shooting the reason my bro went down), is simply the best. Nice to see another enthusiast.
Quote:ready to **** up everything threatening you like an angry grizzly bear waking from hibernation. I literally laughed out loud when I read this.
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