So you're the kid who got presents too when it was your sibling's birthday party huh?

I'm pretty sure the 6500+ WP and the win helped out in his payout.....

I can't really understand what your point is.

Personally, I don't like logi's who do nothing but carry around a rep tool the entire game, because I think they are pussies, but that's really the only reason that I don't like them. Somewhere in this mess of a post it seems like you are blaming them for the loss of an entire team, and that just isn't true.

Dude. Its not that serious. Your argument is silly. You asking why the most defenseless mercenary on the field, putting his life on the line supporting the team, is getting more money than others who are not.

The argument is childish dude.

I agreed with you at first about someone who was only going logi to make bank being detrimental to the team. But then you started whining and saying things should be done based entirely off your opinion. Like removing the rep tool. And you know very ******* well that, in the army, if they had some sort of tool that could heal their soldiers as they were getting shot they would use the f*ck out of it, and there would be several dedicated healers in every troupe. Don't give us this bull **** about how in the army you guys do it differently than a futuristic sci-fi game does. Of course you f*cking do. You don't have nearly the same capabilities as this imaginary future army does.

Go stick a needle up your ass if you want one so bad, and don't compare video game logistics priorities to actual people who actually get hurt and actually die.

Maybe we rep because we don't have a gun game.
Maybe we rep because we WANT our squad to have ammo, links that aren't 15 second timers, or a proto scanner to keep them aware.
Maybe Im thankful I get that payout when I die 10 times in a suit carrying proto scan, hives, links and my favorite FW repper.
Sprinting around in a scout suit sounds fun.
Shooting the Jump fit Officer MD fits sounds fun too,

I cannot.
I die.
I come back and still help my squad however I can and that huge payout SOMETIMES helps me break even.

Ill work on that running away (not getting shot) thing, but I cant leave my squad behind.
Have fun with your tanks.

Get a job. Quit hatin. You should find more useful ways to contribute.

I somewhat agree with what you're saying, and I've actually addressed it in some detail on this post:

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2831241#post2831241

Rep tools generate way too much WP, that I agree with. My record is 1,119,000 ISK in a public Skirmish.

Otherwise, your unveiled bias and lack of understanding is not proving anything. It's easy to say "they just hold R1 the whole match", but do tell what slayers do. That's right, I could say the same thing.

There's a lot of positioning and awareness that goes into healing allies that are under fire. You have to work around their movements and not get in their way. There's a considerable amount of thought that goes into being a logi, just like being a slayer.

And for the record; I fight just like everyone else and pull out the rep tool whenever someone needs it. That's what logis should be.

^ this
Spoil't

Really? Oh, well hell, good to know. I just see the +25's rolling in. I never took the time to figure out what they were coming from. Thanks for the clarificatino Sarge!

Yes. You tried to dumb down the other side to further your own argument. I'm throwing it back at you to show you how illogical it is.


That's not being a logi. That's hopping out to drop links or a scan, then doing tank stuff, correct?


Nope. The guys who remain locked-on to allies endlessly even when their HP is full are what we call "tourist logis". They're the guys who do it for the broken amount of WP that triage gives, not because they actually want to be a support unit.

I want to respond to this in a constructive way.

to agree with you on some points, and show you the error of your ways in others, but unfortunately for you, you seem to have a vendetta.

Regardless, I am here to say a few simple things;

First - All self-respecting logis mid game should have a needle on their suit. its how it is, needles are arguably the most important piece of equipment you can carry, so do so.

Second - Rep Tool, love it, hate it, it has a purpose - to prepare your team for an assault, and to keep them alive through it. There is a reason it gives so much points - because it works. imagine that, something that helps the the team, and gives them the chance to survive against heavier fire power gives out a ton of points. hmm wonder why -_-.

Third, and Final - So what are you complaining about exactly? Because all I read was a bunch of tears on the fact that you only got 400k isk, and a guy you were running with got 700k. Are you jealous? Is that what this is about? virtual currency that has no effect on the real world? Really? Man grow a pair, and have fun once in a while, don't complain on how some one who used a piece of equipment rather than a gun got more WP than you.

Sned T. Dead.



Post Script - also a good logi knows when to shoot, and if you don't, its before your buddy dies. shoot first, rep after. It just makes sense. And if you do not carry a needle, for shame, for shame.

Well Logi's are the Vultures of the battlefield. We only do well when our team does badly ;) The more you get hurt, die, spawn in and expend ammo the more points we earn. About the only non negative way a logi can earn Wp (other than normal killing/hacking etc) is scanners. And a mere 15 wp per squad kill while they are light up is kind of weak. Though with 16 man squads in PC I suppose that would happen more often than previously. Pub matches though scanners are worthless for WP.

Scanners are definitely one piece of equipment you should praise any logi for using, it's about the worst pay out in terms of points of any thing he could be using.