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TheD1CK
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Posted - 2015.07.15 17:36:00 -
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Glad to see I'm not the only one speaking out against campaigners and lacking faith in a CPM to actually benefit the game, Viktor Hadah makes a great post about some of the flaws with peoples ideals as they look toward gaining that position and it is something the playerbase should give extra thought before we spend another year wondering if the CPM has any intention on managing anything other than discussion when we nned players who stirve to make content representing Dust514 to CCP
Some may agree/disagree with encouraging votes but I barely know the mercs I'd suggest for CPM so I will just try to offer an unbiased opinion on those putting their names forward, hopefully this can be a constructive thread about who has what's needed and what they truly offer the playerbase in terms of hearing our views and adding content to Dust514.
- If a candidate offers nothing but the sound of their own words they are a poor choice. - A level of diplomacy is required for CPM, but that should not discourage anyone, focus on the game should be 1st - Dust needs the communtiy to stive to make the content, the door between CCP/Players is the CPM, they should lead this
From what I have seen (will update if potential candidates wish to state their intentions)
- Solid Candidates. Cross - Sound logic, welcoming in opening discussions a good speaker for the CPM Kevall - Leading the most well known corp backing NPE, providing feedback of that is essential Talos - Good idea's reminds me of the old days when dreamers still lurked the forums, CCP need that creativity
- Ones to consider Pokey - Another solid speaker and a good critic for both the community and CCP Breakin' Stuff - So many have claimed to try and be fixin' stuff I think it's time we tried something else Zaria - Experience at the end-game levels and amongst the best players in game
From the names mentioned I would still like to see more community activity IN-GAME, but they are all worthy of it if they dedicate to the task at hand and increase content for all mercenaries on Dust514 an our immersion with EVE. To any I have left out, actions speak louder than words. We need CPM to be more than a talkshow for what could have been.
My opinion means little in this, I am trying to communicate for those who play the game for what it is, and make the most of the content we have on offer. I'm happy to discuss this or add further explanations to my opinions.
Good luck to those hopeful of a CPM seat, just remember to get off your ass once in a while . 07 |
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Posted - 2015.07.15 17:42:00 -
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Mclovin619 wrote:...alright i feel you, I didn't even wanna get named its cool
:( :(
There is creating content.. and there is making a mess. You may need to review your campaign plans xxx |
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Posted - 2015.07.15 17:44:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I wish KAGEHOSHI would run. He's the only person I would vote for.
Same line as Talos, KAGEHOSI would add creativity that is lacking. Though I think Talos will be more concerned with the little details that make gameplay more immersive and rewarding which is bread and butter for a Dust merc |
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Posted - 2015.07.15 17:45:00 -
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Mclovin619 wrote:TheD1CK wrote:Mclovin619 wrote:...alright i feel you, I didn't even wanna get named its cool
:( :( There is creating content.. and there is making a mess. You may need to review your campaign plans xxx Give me 1 bad thing about my campaign....I promote 50 shades of love and i gave you an insight on the future of dust gameplay
Well for a start.. I have not read you campaign, the stage is yours, why should I vote for you ?
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Posted - 2015.07.15 17:47:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:I'm a bit confused how Pokey is not on the Solid Candidate list if Talos and Kevall are there.
I see activity from Cross+Talos often in battles, not so much from Pokey though he has good views and if he took on management of CPM could be a great asset. Mt main focus is gameplay activity and how CPM can benefit this.
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TheD1CK
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Posted - 2015.07.15 17:54:00 -
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I would be interested to hear from some candidates about how they would earn my vote.. apart from being the voice for the community, what are they going to do for it?? This is not RL politics, I expect your boots to be as dirty as ours on the ground.
So in regards to what I think a CPM should aim for, how will canidates provide this? |
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Posted - 2015.07.15 18:58:00 -
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The KTM DuKe wrote:Some italians would like to see me running for cpm, though i ve not a program and i am not appreciate on an international level
I would like to see more candidates internationally as it is the entire communtiy the CPM need to address, but I am not seeing many mentioned interest from EU/Asia/SA so I cannot judge though I can say all of these guys know how the game is played and add another dimension to battles which is good content, so CPM interaction internationally is a must have abilty I think.
Anyone that is considering it should certainly think about what they could offer and if they can dedicate time to CPM+Dust
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TheD1CK
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Posted - 2015.07.15 19:49:00 -
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Once we get an idea who is worth voting in we can decide what shiny suits they are wearing |
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Posted - 2015.07.15 21:50:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Interesting thoughts.
What would you say about me, if I were to run?
WYRNSPIRE !!!!
You would be a good diplomat dealing with CCP and have vast gameplay experience with knowledge of mechanics, and like I think and hope Pokey's main strength will be you will critic CCP where needed and in a manner they will listen to. Ideally speaking I think you'd be a good choice, but I am going on the basis of what I have seen or read while playing the game.
Bamm Havoc has a good perspective on the game. and offers another opinion from most which I feel is important for a productive CPM, If he was active enough would be a good host for player events. But I have not seen much from him lately.
In my perspective any candidate running for CPM should be focusing on the gameplay in Dust514, by being part of it, from publicly hosted FW, Ambushes even PC gaining experience with the players in game, obviously activity times can't always suit but if they cannot be active they are in no position to be providing current feedback from the community, not all members need to be active as much in game because ideallly gamers would be smart enough to vote the right mix of players
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TheD1CK
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Posted - 2015.07.15 22:02:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:TheD1CK wrote:Once we get an idea who is worth voting in we can decide what shiny suits they are wearing I am literally getting feedback from a player and you are busting my balls. Please decide what is more important to you: talking about politics or us being good CPM candidates.
They are voting CPM this month, and will be adding SKINs for the next 10+, many players have put forward idea's with Faction/Loyalty SKINs, but is a visual effect that we are set to get one way or another, deciding what candidates provide a good base for in game content is more important. I see no point in any player voting for someone who cannot provide that, Save his layouts and work on that theory, but if an open discussion on what candidates will actually DO for the game is possible I'd try keep that on track.
How many voted the last CPM ?? that's the only reason you need to why we need CPM involved with the entire community
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Posted - 2015.07.16 11:25:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:The words, "You need a KDR minimum ofGǪ" put me right off of giving two effs for trying to cooperate with most people in the game.
I was there when the idea of the game was announced. I supported the concept of the game. I wanted to play the game. I play the game. I like the game. I am concerned about the success of the game. I want the game to be playable by all rather than a select few. I don't think I need to jabber with my bros to improve said game. What more needs to be said?
Good post, I fully agree with you we mostly keep our fantasy jibber jabber in Corp comms, I am strongly against a CPM where their main focus is sitting about chatting about Dust, I would like to see at least one member with as much mud on their boots as average Dust activity playing public/FW/PC and especially so they can attempt to reach out to the players not speaking up.
You have the same view a lot of us did when Dust began, most are tired of holding onto hope
It's why I am concerned with the CPM choices, as a squad leader thats exactly how I am looking at CPM build-up, if we don't get the right mix of roles into the CPM it cannot be as effective as possible for us , in-game and on here.
Diplomats - Logistics - Veterans - New Players
For traits I feel it should be built from, and the players involved share and divide responsibiltiy between themselves so some of them post more content, some of them play/create more content and those who handle CCP diplomacy with them. It should be most important that we mix the CPM panel so we get the required traits and hopefully a few members who setup to be behind the communtiy, not just in words but in actual gameplay content and interaction internationally.
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TheD1CK
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Posted - 2015.07.16 13:14:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I'd love something like this and yes General would do Gallente just fine. The Federal Defense Union's max rank is Luminaire General. Source. Amarr max rank is currently called Divine Commodore (which sounds pretty impressive, btw). Minmatar is Valklear General (also impressive sounding). Caldari... Brigadier General (...meh...) These ranks are already steeped in New Eden lore. Though weak, this could be a nice connection to the greater New Eden universe. I don't want to stop TheD1CK from banging on about politics and whatever else so let's take this to Skype. Ghost, you have a Skype name? Add me.
Thank you, CPM candidate for adding something to the discussion at hand at not derailing it with something off topic that concerns only yourself and a fraction of the community, a skype chat is just whats needed so you can brainstorm ideas from yoursleves and have minimal community input
Gameplay > Lore > Shiny dropsuits
A new thread for that is welcome, but I busted your balls so this would not become 10 pages of..
'OMG.. you are going to look soooo fabulous in FW tonight bae xxx'
Gameplay quality and how CPM can be involed in creating content is what matters, I'm not caring for any politics.. it seems past CPM elections have focused to much on that and the actual players suffer while they have their chats about the game. By creating content I do not mean only crafting theories but actually branching out and being involved with the game.
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TheD1CK
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Posted - 2015.07.16 13:48:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:TheD1CK wrote:Something off topic that concerns only yourself and a fraction of the community, a Skype chat is just whats needed so you can brainstorm ideas from yourselves and have minimal community input Like many proposals, thoughts will be thrown around in Skype or in game then a thread posted in F&I to be discussed with the community. Remember that candidate, Breakin Stuff, that is endorse? We discuss his proposals and ideas in Skype often before he tosses them out for the community to view. But spin that however you want
The only guys endorsed here are the ones loud enough to be noticed, why should I (or any Dust gamer) need to search to find the candidates for representing the communitiy?? I won't, 100's of others will not so this post is biased towards those who make a consistent mark both in game and on the forums, CPM need to step up community interaction a LOT.
It's nothing personal that I am being a d1ck about it, consider it a warm up for candidates because it is the exact behaviour they will be dealing with if elected, Community representetives should even care about what scrubs like me think I'm afraid..
And the guys endorsed by this living e-peen interect with players inside and outside of their groups so seem to make good choices, This post is a chance for CPM candidates to at least mention what mark they intend top leave on the game, I know none of them on a personal level, only by what I have seen from their actions within Dust514
- for PR purposes, I can add candidates prepared to give a reason why I should to the list.
- One main skill I am hoping appears in CPM is someone making an effort with non-english speaking natives - Council of Planetary Management, if it means so much to apply for, show us how you will interact within the game
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TheD1CK
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Posted - 2015.07.16 13:55:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:TheD1CK wrote:Something off topic that concerns only yourself and a fraction of the community, a Skype chat is just whats needed so you can brainstorm ideas from yourselves and have minimal community input Like many proposals, thoughts will be thrown around in Skype or in game then a thread posted in F&I to be discussed with the community. Remember that candidate, Breakin Stuff, that is endorsed in your OP? We discuss his proposals and ideas in Skype often before he tosses them out for the community to view. But spin that however you want
These discussions could easily be on forums or even in-game channels while mercs play with a mix batch of players, can anybody name the main reason they are not ?? My answer is because no-one makes the effort for that interaction within Dust, I know several reasons why I can't blame mercs for that it's a lot of scrubs to get through to
What should be the first requirement for a CPM that is representing the communtiy ??
My money is on, them actually having a clue who/what they represent.
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TheD1CK
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Posted - 2015.07.16 14:05:00 -
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501st calm down with the like button a moment and back me up on this I am not against disagreement, my Corp can vouch for how often I am wrong, but I know the game we are playing and I do my best to keep it a casual environment for myself and the gamers I fight with, It may be a shock to some of you but there are many people playing the game for what it is, not just the dreamers that come here to talk about it, I will vote when I see candidates that are going to reach out to the bluest of blueberries and value their feedback as much as the value those of witty mercs with a few thousand likes. |
TheD1CK
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Posted - 2015.07.16 14:09:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:TheD1CK wrote:These discussions could easily be on forums or even in-game channels while mercs play with a mix batch of players, can anybody name the main reason they are not ?? My answer is because no-one makes the effort for that interaction within Dust, I know several reasons why I can't blame mercs for that it's a lot of scrubs to get through to Well, there are many people to talk to in-game, I'll grant you that. I'm only one man and I do have a full time job, but I like remaining accessible out of game so I can be reached. In game I'll squad up with anyone! Just send me a mail and we will figure out times.
Abd I understand that, it's a big reason why candidates should really consider if they have the time for it all. The only way around it as I mentioned before, the CPM should be a suqad, providing various roles, not all need by in-game campaigners but without someone or more of the CPM dedicated to that, they are of no real use to the unspoken for players we have.
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TheD1CK
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Posted - 2015.07.16 14:22:00 -
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TheD is here for your amusmement , and your reply sums up the main reasons I am questioning CPM candidates. I have played the game from clueless adjusted starter fit blueberry noob to half-competent adjusted FC noob, meeting a lot of players in between the majority of them being in the lower bracket of skill/SP ranking and I have gained good sense of fighting with+against Corps internationally seeing different outlooks on the game and how it is adapted to around the world... If it wasn't for the gametime it would steal and my terrible diplomacy skills I'd consider CPM myself.. instead I'll take the safe route and grill those that think they can really speak for the communtiy they are so keen to represent |
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Posted - 2015.07.16 16:36:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:My voting list so far: Pokey DravonCross Atu Zaria Min Deir BreakinGÇÖ Stuff Kevall will probably be on there somewhere. I voted for him last time. I donGÇÖt know Talos, so will have to look out for some of his posts. Of course I am not sure who is all running yet.
Yes there is still uncertainty about who will run, but the ones working hardest for it are noticable. I updated OP to set Pokey as a solid candidate, I think most of Dust will be hoping he can be the critic that can beat some sense into CCP
A lot of mercs thinking about CPM voting will browse this so feedbnack from candidates is very welcome
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TheD1CK
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Posted - 2015.07.16 16:42:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:TheD1CK wrote:The KTM DuKe wrote:Some italians would like to see me running for cpm, though i ve not a program and i am not appreciate on an international level I would like to see more candidates internationally as it is the entire communtiy the CPM need to address, but I am not seeing many mentioned interest from EU/Asia/SA so I cannot judge though I can say all of these guys know how the game is played and add another dimension to battles which is good content, so CPM interaction internationally is a must have abilty I think. Anyone that is considering it should certainly think about what they could offer and if they can dedicate time to CPM+Dust Zaria Min Deir is from Finland.
Yes, but unless I am mistaken she is a member of the NA and english speaking community, and that reply was more aimed at someone who can comunicate with the large non-english speaking Dust communities, along with ideally the smaller groups of non-english speakers being included, though we may need a CPM candidate that can communicate in 20+ languages
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TheD1CK
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Posted - 2015.07.16 17:08:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:CPM is a formality.
There is no real change they can bring about while CCP runs a skeleton crew with minimal resources. It's merely a play to keep the faith alive amongst the fan boys.
CPM has no purpose in a DUST that CCP has all but abandoned.
Exactly why I'm building walls of text in the hope this trend does not continue, Dust has all the activity it needs what is lacking is players that get behind communtiy driven events, who better to do that than those formailities that are communicating for us??
The majority of fanboys went chasing their destiny, Dust does have some loyal gamers left though, all the more reason CPM should reach out to them. Have we not learned sitting about crying for CCP to do something doesn't work?? if they can see a functioning community they are more likely to consider being involved. Reading posst like yours I'm sure some DEV's regret ever making a f2p gamer for whining kids, it is what you make of it, and you sir seem to be holding a piece of crap.
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TheD1CK
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Posted - 2015.07.16 17:22:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:"It's what I make of it"
Sorry, but a buggy lobby shooter with low frame rate, dwindling player base, virtually no dev team or resources, nothing ground breaking to speak of, mediocre graphics and a horrendous push and pull of attempted balance was by no means influenced by my cynicism.
You're the ones blinded by optimism, praying for gold while it's you who's holding the piece of crap ;)
No, it's more like acknowledging the fact at the beginning of Dust those with sense knew this would go nowhere for upto and likey past 5years of blood, sweat and tears (I do my part) and ven then we'll have problems, Dust is still much better than many active games for the quality of content, gameplay and the way it pretends to offer some immersion...
We do get plagued by gamers addicted to shiny who insist on picking up each new release to play it, get bored, come back here and complain... but after this long it's cute.. and we are glad to welcome you back |
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Posted - 2015.07.16 17:27:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:TheD1CK wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:"It's what I make of it"
Sorry, but a buggy lobby shooter with low frame rate, dwindling player base, virtually no dev team or resources, nothing ground breaking to speak of, mediocre graphics and a horrendous push and pull of attempted balance was by no means influenced by my cynicism.
You're the ones blinded by optimism, praying for gold while it's you who's holding the piece of crap ;)
No, it's more like acknowledging the fact at the beginning of Dust those with sense knew this would go nowhere for upto and likey past 5years of blood, sweat and tears (I do my part) and ven then we'll have problems, Dust is still much better than many active games for the quality of content, gameplay and the way it pretends to offer some immersion... We do get plagued by gamers addicted to shiny who insist on picking up each new release to play it, get bored, come back here and complain... but after this long it's cute.. and we are glad to welcome you back I haven't been back in over a year (for anything more than messing around with the minor patches), so direct your welcome elsewhere. I just come here for the laughs. This forum never disappoints. Most fan boys who play this game daily simply don't even give other games a chance, they just pour their money into this and stay, killing the same noobs over and over with the same squads playing the same game modes using the same tactics for years on end. I just love watching the show, and since my PC is dead right now I have no incentive to log in to record for giggles. There's nothing left to come back to lol.
Aha, a forum lurker.. you go girl ! I'm happy for you
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TheD1CK
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Posted - 2015.07.16 17:31:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:But I want to vote for you, D1ck.
I'm holding out for the honourary title : CCPeeness skip the CPM paperwork and get to work cracking the whip
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TheD1CK
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Posted - 2015.07.17 14:34:00 -
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Revive !!! + 90 WP
How many candidates have read this and thought... I aint touchin no peenis.. gtfo
I could care less what your intentions are, but it would be nice to see some back them up when questioned. For bitter-lurkers... Yes CPM is just a title.. they do nothing but sniff farts and praise the poor diets of CCP, but that is exactly why we need to vote for someone who understands the plight .. that farts can be quite smelly sometimes it is better to go outside interact with people and ninja fart.. no one can track them if done in public and everyone gets to taste the refreshment. |
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Posted - 2015.07.17 14:40:00 -
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The KTM DuKe wrote:TheD1CK wrote:Revive !!! + 90 WP How many candidates have read this and thought... I aint touchin no peenis.. gtfo I could care less what your intentions are, but it would be nice to see some back them up when questioned. For bitter-lurkers... Yes CPM is just a title.. they do nothing but sniff farts and praise the poor diets of CCP, but that is exactly why we need to vote for someone who understands the plight .. that farts can be quite smelly sometimes it is better to go outside interact with people and ninja fart.. no one can track them if done in public and everyone gets to taste the refreshment. Really tempted atm to sniff farts all day long lol
gtfo saxonfart.. I'm sure the public fart supply over there is great you know TheD farts are where the action is
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TheD1CK
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Posted - 2015.07.18 10:57:00 -
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Haerr wrote:TheD1CK wrote:There is creating content... Now there is a thought, we can always create some additional "content" by voting for the candidates who are least likely to do a good job, or most likely to get kicked off the CPM...
lol, we've been here before
Youtube is NO way a requirement, it's actually the opposite as I tried to point out to IWS before the last election.. is someone who is trying to scratch pennies together by making YT videos an ideal candidate for a voluntary position ??
I don't think so and results speak for themselves after last year
Any remark I have made at 'content' is aimed at either the useful and welcoming discussions we see from Cross Atu and others, along with in-game content.. creating events or reaching out to the community you represent if you can make a video while doing this, that may get you a pat on the back, but I can't say it does anything for in-game content |
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Posted - 2015.07.18 11:13:00 -
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Pokey makes good points on exactly why CCP do not communicate often with most players, but I'm not the one running for CPM so I lose nothing by not taking this as seriously and factual as they might like, I am anecdotal evidence
10% of the Dust community can engage in thoughtful, logic based discussion while the remainder are those who fill emotional rants that get them nowhere and they walk away feeling that no-one gives a damn in the first place, hence the really low number of players interacting within these Forums (Douche514 Forums) I don't blame them I have seen first hand the sh!t the monkeys throw at you when they want a disagreement, 80% of arguments are won by the better logic, while the better point is lost.
Mina, the remark for mclovin is a troll, fight fire with fire if that's enough to gain him some votes then the voters deserve to be castrated so we don't fear them reproducing and inflicting us with stupid. On the otherhand 'Sgt Kirk' squad leader and organiser for a GalFW group, seeing as I am biased towards those I think will have an in-game impact, why note choose him? We need CPM who can deal with a room full of bloodhungry mercs and show us that we voted for Players, not just Speakers
Delt.. if you're more worried about the weiner not liking you (I do btw) than posting some reasons you would make a good CPM maybe even that crazy ass option of adding something to the discussion at hand would work for you?? Most of Dust are aware you want to be CPM, you need to show what you will add to the table, how will you interact with the community?? |
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Posted - 2015.07.18 11:14:00 -
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Haerr wrote:Perhaps we can combine the different kinds of content?
Like CPM meets Survivor? They start out as 12 and then one by one they vote each other off the CPM? >:)
Naturally we would need weekly episodes to follow the CPM...
I fully support this idea.
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Posted - 2015.07.18 11:36:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:Instructions uncleared, voted for TheD1CK
PS: Skrab d1ck, you did this for the likez, ALL FOR THE LIKEZ!!! You forum warrior!!
All this talk of epeens around here, you'd hope that Dusties enjoy looking a one, jeez And if you count the amount of dislikes I would have got I would have -25,672 likes
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Posted - 2015.07.18 11:41:00 -
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ON TOPIC.
Has this post been of use to those deciding their votes?? have I spewwed enough propaganda to pollute the votes so they line up with my own evil, greed driven intentions for being a CPM puppetmaster ???
I hope so, Slavery does not pay well enough
Being serious(ish) I do hope this post raises some good points along with teh lulz for Dust gamers interested in the CPM.
Trainwreck forum posting prof.5
Sorry I am too busy to come to the phone right now, I am actually playing the game.
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TheD1CK
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Posted - 2015.07.18 11:51:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:You would be incorrect. I am actually more data-driven. I am merely better at putting it into context for other people. Pokeys points of contention with me have nothing to do with data points. They have to do with practical application functionality and ease-of-use as well as personal aggravation factor. I firmly believe that you have misjudged him.
I'd agree with this, it's why you'll likely get voted for without even trying to gain any votes, I think Breakin is the rare-gem that will look at things both factual and from anecdotal experience, along with being able to post feedback that all gamers will relate to
A lot of us don't come here to debate, which happens way to often rather than just discussions being open, at least with Breakin Stuff he will just flat out tell you your wrong, take your logic and beat some sense into you with it
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Sorry I am too busy to come to the phone right now, I am actually playing the game.
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TheD1CK
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Posted - 2015.07.18 13:14:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:
I like to think that Rattati and I both react well to a very analytical approach on topics. He's always been very responsive to my discussions with him because I approach things in a very factual manner. So when he comes up with an idea that just doesn't make sense, and I explain to him why it doesn't make sense, he's been very willing to change his position on the topic.
What he doesn't respond to well is emotionally driven rants and demands, which is something I always try to avoid in my conversations.
:: seeding a thought :: I feel he can focus too much on numbers though...maybe he does look at other stuff too, but I think too much weight is placed on numbers. This is why having more heads involved is always a good idea to get all angles. Anecdotal and observational evidence has its place as does realising that balance is not necessarily achieved with perfect symmetry It's important to remember that CCP Rattati is an Engineer, so he's -going- to focus on the numbers first. Exactly why I mentioned it - because putting like-minded alongside him (as in Pokey's example) misses the other aspects, as you and others have already pointed out in later posts re: how stuff *feels*. Instead of (or indeed as well as!) breaking down into small groups of like-minded and having isolated discussions, then rejoining to disagree with equivalent other groups, inclusive discussion involving all the types involved should achieve better results.
This guy gets it. Anyone else catching on??
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Mossellia Delt wrote:TheD1CK wrote:Pokey makes good points on exactly why CCP do not communicate often with most players, but I'm not the one running for CPM so I lose nothing by not taking this as seriously and factual as they might like, I am anecdotal evidence 10% of the Dust community can engage in thoughtful, logic based discussion while the remainder are those who fill emotional rants that get them nowhere and they walk away feeling that no-one gives a damn in the first place, hence the really low number of players interacting within these Forums (Douche514 Forums) I don't blame them I have seen first hand the sh!t the monkeys throw at you when they want a disagreement, 80% of arguments are won by the better logic, while the better point is lost. Mina, the remark for mclovin is a troll, fight fire with fire if that's enough to gain him some votes then the voters deserve to be castrated so we don't fear them reproducing and inflicting us with stupid. On the otherhand 'Sgt Kirk' squad leader and organiser for a GalFW group, seeing as I am biased towards those I think will have an in-game impact, why note choose him? We need CPM who can deal with a room full of bloodhungry mercs and show us that we voted for Players, not just Speakers Delt.. if you're more worried about the weiner not liking you (I do btw) than posting some reasons you would make a good CPM maybe even that crazy ass option of adding something to the discussion at hand would work for you?? Most of Dust are aware you want to be CPM, you need to show what you will add to the table, how will you interact with the community?? The Weiner comment was made in jest, to add to this conversation I will say I think the players in game really need to join the group chat in game that I made (CPM2 Candidates) and squad up and talk to the candidates themselves, in 'person' and really get to know them. I have always been a fan of 1 on 1 communication and larger communication between the community and myself so they get to know the real person. Also, still playing mfw? Havent squared in a while.
That's one option having chats in-game, there should be channels dedicated to this, though many mercs like myself avoid having numerous chats active so they may not get much use. Getting the know the person is one option, but that person making the effort to know the community they represent should be more important (it's not like there are many left) so getting through them all can't be too much work.
I game for all factions, the joy of leading an angry mob, anyone wanting to join for some games is welcome to hunt me down at 'DeadMansGame' chat channel, though my main focus in game is gaming with DMG. I am always happy to discuss Dust514 or get into some angry bar fights about it
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TheD1CK
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Posted - 2015.07.18 17:40:00 -
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Mina Longstrike wrote:Aeon, kirks bias is pretty clear and if I wasn't on my phone I could go grab some of the stuff Nothi has documented. On a tangent, opinions about people *can* be wrong, they are based in feeling not fact. Opinions are by definition fallible as they're not facts - you're allowed to have your world view and dislike things for whatever reasons but that doesn't prevent it from being wrong. There is a big difference between an opinion and an informed opinion.
D1ck, being a good squadlead isn't something I'd consider all that important. Again, not trying to diminish or belittle him but if both Kirk and I were to run I'd vote for neither of us for mostly the same reasons, we'd probably be better than some, but not as good as many others.
For dealing with CCP no, but if CPM had more in-game activity that could be an asset, either way being a squad lead, what is the first requirement there?? Knowing the in's and out's of the game and managing players.. I think that could be of some use to CPM, and until you do post your stuff it does seem like you are trying to diminish and belittle him tbqh
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Posted - 2015.07.19 11:14:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:D1CK what have you done...
Meh, at least these guys make it obvious why most players don't use the forum
Aeon... Mina says yo momma looks good working fo dat Caldari dolla Mina... Aeon says you momma likes it froggy style...
FIGHT!!!
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TheD1CK
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Posted - 2015.07.19 11:16:00 -
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Let's not turn this into fantasy racism514, both of you, go outside and touch a boob immediatly
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