Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.07.17 00:42:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:I think that your ideal candidate would have to be a person who both played the game and spent time on the forums.
You have explained why a Forum Warrior who does not actually play the game much can become out of touch with what is actually happening in game, but if a CPM member is not active on the forums, then everyone will think they are not doing anything and call them a Lame Duck CPM member even if they are doing a fantastic job.
So ideally you want someone who is active both in game and on the forums, like Cross Atu was this year.
Bit of bias there Fox
Cross was not the only CPM who posted regularly on the forums and played the game. ;)
Not to be too defensive but up until I quit Dust (RL circumstances) and offered to step down from the CPM in response...I was posting quite regularly on the forums and playing the game quite often...only about 6 weeks of the first 6 months of my term did I not touch Dust (I took a break and played Destiny pretty heavily until November) and even then I was still speaking regularly with those that did.
Furthermore I don't know what gives you the impression that Cross was playing (define 'playing the game') very often as iirc he was indisposed for an extended period last year...actually Cross would have been our chair but he had real life stuff and wasn't able to be present very often. No one is perfect.
I actually am quite sure that if you were to add up the playing time for me in that first 6 months it would be about the same as the amount of time everyone else in the CPM has played in the past year with the exception of SirManBoy.
To Aeon's point:
Many of the 'celebrities' were eliminated far before the 'philosophers'
Zion Shad was eliminated before Aeon...and Pokey would have made it on had he not been splitting votes with Cross.
**** Black Jackal probably would have made it on had Tesfa not been running.
The CPM did overall a great job of eliciting feedback and relaying it from my perspective.
I think that it's quite hilarious to have people assume the CPM were not eliciting feedback when the only place you'd know is if you asked them yourself (and if you did and they responded they don't I'd love to know who) or if you saw them in action.
You can't prove a negative.
And surely there are plenty of able candidates who play little if ever (looking at Pokey for example)
The OP is largely mistaken that saying nice things and furthering populist agenda's will get you into the CPM.
Literally every CPM who made it in worked extremely hard to get there, demonstrating leadership in organizing and willing their campaign into success.
It's true not many of the other candidates had to endure the divisiveness I that spawned this fantastic quote from Fox's Summaries last year:
Quote:Zatara Rought:
CEO of Fatal Absolution. Experience at the highest levels of Planetary Conquest. He can count some of the most irrational people in DUST among his critics.
But that does not provide ammunition to the misguided view that most other candidates were pandering. That those who were elected...were elected because of pandering.
The politically competitive don't become so without a LOT of hard work and effort.
And that skill set is a valuable one. If I was voting between a person who had never posted on the forums, and wasn't in a corp..but had great ideas and a fantastic vision...and someone like Cross who also has great ideas and vision but also seek feedback from others...who of you wouldn't want the forum warrior?
I remember a while back Aeon saying that no one on the CPM were around and then retracted that statement because every single time Aeon or ANYONE messages me or emails me, or direct messages me on twitter, or even my reddit account or facebook account....I've responded.
The only "celebrity" duster who made it on last year was Judge...and be began showing his inability to lead long before he was elected.
Iron was criticized heavily
Cross was relatively unknown
I was the most divisive candidate harangued by all manner of troll looking for any way they can discredit me..they still do! You might see a few of my fans enter this thread to respond to my post!
Did anyone even know who SirManBoy was before he declared? I didn't and he was in my alliance.
Only 1 candidate made it onto the CPM without running a campaign...SirManBoy.
To the point that
Quote:majority of the people we need on the CPM are not even going to be running for the CPM position
this is where YOU and other should be working to get them elected...instead of making posts like this.
There are those who talk about what kind of people they imagine get on the CPM vs those that they think should be on the CPM...and their are those who are investing their time making sure the people they see as worthy are getting elected.
I'm extremely surprised to see you insinuating the people on the CPM are 'knowledgeable'
SMH
The CPM are conduits for the community.
I hope the community will seek out those that are already acting as CPM and elect them, true conduits that are open minded people who can converse aptly about Dust and inspire you with their vision for what they wish to accomplish, realistic or not.
When I was elected people said the CPM was stupid and worthless.
That we would be relegated to helping out with hotfixes, that dreams of "PC2.0" or "Team Deploy" were deluded and that Dust would never receive updates.
It's easy to be a critic people. Stop destroying, start building.
Founder & CEO of Fatal Absolution
Skype: Zatara.Rought Email: Zatara.Forever@gmail
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.17 00:58:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:
It is why, to me personally, the will to have conversations and to put analysis over emotion and personal taste is so important to the role of player representative.
The community is not one person, or seven, and no one will represent the community without the ability and willingness to listen as part of the evaluation process.
Amen
Founder & CEO of Fatal Absolution
Skype: Zatara.Rought Email: Zatara.Forever@gmail
official pawn of ArkenaKirkMerc
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