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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.07.13 00:06:00 -
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This is partially one of the issues I have with modern tanking. HAV without their hardeners have no durability.....as opposed to a hull having durability with hardeners supplementing that.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.07.13 12:05:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Moe Lester III wrote:There isn't exactly nothing you can do. I mean you could run a good scanner, have a top gunner on watch for you and not camp in one spot for long You shut up. Stop forcing teamplay on vehicle users. They earned the right to never work with anyone else. 
Same could be said for the casual player in FW. Because **** me they provide such a great service to the FW community that they've ******* earned a reprieve from any real requirements and deserve to be pandered to outside of a public game mode......
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.07.13 23:25:00 -
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Moe Lester III wrote:^So you're choosing to play a team based game solo and you're complaining about the results? Well that makes perfect sense 
I beautiful irony of that statement is that people will subjectively chose to make this a facet of their argument only when it suits them.
Solo FWers, AVers, Tankers, hell just about every niche in this game uses that as a bloody cop out.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.07.13 23:54:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:True Adamance wrote:Moe Lester III wrote:^So you're choosing to play a team based game solo and you're complaining about the results? Well that makes perfect sense I beautiful irony of that statement is that people will subjectively chose to make this a facet of their argument only when it suits them. Solo FWers, AVers, Tankers, hell just about every niche in this game uses that as a bloody cop out. There are plenty of people who run solo knowing they are not going to be able to do as well but that is how they have fun. The difference is they don't try to affect game balance to suit them just because they disagree with team play.
Yet would ask game mechanics be compromised or limiting so as to allow them access to a game mode they are fundamentally affecting by being present. A mode where team work is vastly more desired as a trait which in turn affects the experience of more focused and engaged players.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.07.14 00:04:00 -
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Sned TheDead wrote:True Adamance wrote:deezy dabest wrote:True Adamance wrote:Moe Lester III wrote:^So you're choosing to play a team based game solo and you're complaining about the results? Well that makes perfect sense I beautiful irony of that statement is that people will subjectively chose to make this a facet of their argument only when it suits them. Solo FWers, AVers, Tankers, hell just about every niche in this game uses that as a bloody cop out. There are plenty of people who run solo knowing they are not going to be able to do as well but that is how they have fun. The difference is they don't try to affect game balance to suit them just because they disagree with team play. Yet would ask game mechanics be compromised or limiting so as to allow them access to a game mode they are fundamentally affecting by being present. A mode where team work is vastly more desired as a trait which in turn affects the experience of more focused and engaged players. Wait... So what you want is solo play removed from FW?
Absolutely not. I want FW expanded to allow groups enough agency and content that they don't have to bother with the whining of solo players complaining that for the life of them they cannot understand why they are losing and why they are not contributing anything to the factional milita/faction at large.
Unlike FW EVE side where numbers mean everything in Dust mitigating potential loss of efficiency by eliminating redundancies of unsquadded players is desirable.
What I want form FW is player agency that allows organised group to establish their own conflict zones where they are actually needed, not at random, and to do so in such a way that if solo players do attempt to enter them they are subsequently bashed over the head and reminded to either squad up and compete in a meaningful and valuable way or seek other less competitive systems to farm their LP in.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.07.14 02:36:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:True Adamance wrote:
Same could be said for the casual player in FW. Because **** me they provide such a great service to the FW community that they've ******* earned a reprieve from any real requirements and deserve to be pandered to outside of a public game mode......
You don't count in my post because you actually work with the people you roll with instead of ignoring them and just whoring kills in every match. That said, the example you used is as true as it is hilarious.
I ***** man! I ***** for my killz hard. Ask Mina. We're just third rate scublordz.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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Posted - 2015.07.14 04:51:00 -
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Sned TheDead wrote:True Adamance wrote:
Absolutely not. I want FW expanded to allow groups enough agency and content that they don't have to bother with the whining of solo players complaining that for the life of them they cannot understand why they are losing and why they are not contributing anything to the factional milita/faction at large.
Unlike FW EVE side where numbers mean everything in Dust mitigating potential loss of efficiency by eliminating redundancies of unsquadded players is desirable.
What I want form FW is player agency that allows organised group to establish their own conflict zones where they are actually needed, not at random, and to do so in such a way that if solo players do attempt to enter them they are subsequently bashed over the head and reminded to either squad up and compete in a meaningful and valuable way or seek other less competitive systems to farm their LP in.
EDIT: This sounds more aggressive than I mean it to. What I mean to say is that I want a player generated means of segmenting the two groups. Players can farm all they want via low moderate pay out PvE Missions perhaps, can engage in small scale PvP of 4v4, 6v6, 8v8 in systems that are not so contested by EVE pilots while at the same time these organised groups can spend LP to make system for conquest buffering, weakening, fighting in larger more organised conflicts for control.
Both groups need space to do what they want to do but at its fundamental core FW is a team oriented game mode. It requires organised groups and dedicated players to make meaningful shifts as we see currently.
what you want then, is the ability to choose where, and against whom you wish to fight? so that blues go for easy lp, while squads go for harder to obtain lp?
Ideally those who don't care won't know which systems to push and should they stumble into a system with a level of competition they are not prepared for they have other options. On the other hand players interested in following EVE side shifts in power and pressing into more competitive system can and will be rewarded for it.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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