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Kail Mako
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2015.07.10 22:21:00 -
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Now, I'm not saying to give heavies an equipment slot, just make it so when I switch to my heavy all of my previous equipment doesn't self-destruct. As a mostly solo player I used to love laying links down with my logi then switching to my heavy. When they changed how equipment worked it got a lot harder for me to make sure everything is covered. I'm forced to either take myself out of the fight because I'm working on keeping my team supplied, or I have to hope my blues can keep up links while I'm fighting in the field.
Who needs gun game when you have kinetic catalyzers?
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Veg Hegirin
DUST University
Ivy League
78
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Posted - 2015.07.10 22:26:00 -
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Amarr logi best heavy |
GeorgeN76
Eden Claims Corp
117
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Posted - 2015.07.10 22:31:00 -
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8mb would be nice so you can have at least 2 uplinks down.
Scouts and Swarms
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Thokk Nightshade
Montana Militia
1
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Posted - 2015.07.10 22:44:00 -
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No. This is the EXACT reason Bandwidth was put into the game in the first place.
1. Spawn in Logi
2. Throw down a bunch of uplinks/nanohives/etc
3. Swap to Heavy
4. Earn double WP by killing and doing the Logi's work
Bandwidth is there so that each role keeps their niche in the battlefield and someone isn't trying to make points doing two different roles at the same time. If you want to earn WP from uplinks/nanohives, etc, you need to use a logi or a suit that has bandwidth.
If you want to be a heavy killing machine, you don't get to double dip and get WP from doing other people's job as well.
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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Kail Mako
Capital Acquisitions LLC
57
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Posted - 2015.07.10 22:48:00 -
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Thokk Nightshade wrote:No. This is the EXACT reason Bandwidth was put into the game in the first place.
1. Spawn in Logi
2. Throw down a bunch of uplinks/nanohives/etc
3. Swap to Heavy
4. Earn double WP by killing and doing the Logi's work
Bandwidth is there so that each role keeps their niche in the battlefield and someone isn't trying to make points doing two different roles at the same time. If you want to earn WP from uplinks/nanohives, etc, you need to use a logi or a suit that has bandwidth.
If you want to be a heavy killing machine, you don't get to double dip and get WP from doing other people's job as well.
That's fine for when you're running coordinated squads, but it hurts overall performance for anyone who likes running solo. You're basically making me half as effective as I could be for no reason at all.
Who needs gun game when you have kinetic catalyzers?
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
9
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Posted - 2015.07.10 22:52:00 -
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Hi, I'm Breakin Stuff.
I've been running almost nothing but Heavies since closed beta and I have to say...
NO.
FATTIES GET NO F***ING BANDWIDTH
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1
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Posted - 2015.07.10 22:52:00 -
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Thokk Nightshade wrote:No. This is the EXACT reason Bandwidth was put into the game in the first place.
1. Spawn in Logi
2. Throw down a bunch of uplinks/nanohives/etc
3. Swap to Heavy
4. Earn double WP by killing and doing the Logi's work
Bandwidth is there so that each role keeps their niche in the battlefield and someone isn't trying to make points doing two different roles at the same time. If you want to earn WP from uplinks/nanohives, etc, you need to use a logi or a suit that has bandwidth.
If you want to be a heavy killing machine, you don't get to double dip and get WP from doing other people's job as well.
We went thru all that before, spawn spam and switch it was goofy.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
10
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Posted - 2015.07.10 23:09:00 -
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I am with Thokk and Breakin on this one.
The system is in place to prevent these abuses. It is not a good idea to get rid of solutions to problems.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Slim Winning
Grade No.2
153
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Posted - 2015.07.10 23:11:00 -
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I know it's tough for a solo player... but what good is a solo heavy anyway?
Heavies need logis. Even with a logi, I consider them a free kill, lol |
Thor Odinson42
Negative-Feedback
6
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Posted - 2015.07.10 23:13:00 -
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I used to be against it.
But there are soooo many times that I'm one of the few people doing anything. You go kill a few dudes, take the point, but get overwhelmed. It would be nice if your uplink wouldn't pop when you spawn heavy to try keep the point.
It seems to me that this playerbase is such complete trash that we need to have Megazord suits that can convert back and forth from a tank to a suit with a mobile CRU, scanner, etc. |
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Thor Odinson42
Negative-Feedback
6
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Posted - 2015.07.10 23:14:00 -
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Slim Winning wrote:I know it's tough for a solo player... but what good is a solo heavy anyway?
Heavies need logis. Even with a logi, I consider them a free kill, lol
Not when you run a shield, speed heavy. Mobility is key for a solo heavy. |
Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
1
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Posted - 2015.07.10 23:18:00 -
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While that's the exact reason I don't run heavies I am gonna go with no.
Acquisition is terrible, matchmaking is terrible, your game is still riddled with bugs, you should feel bad.
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Thokk Nightshade
Montana Militia
1
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Posted - 2015.07.10 23:28:00 -
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Kail Mako wrote:Thokk Nightshade wrote:No. This is the EXACT reason Bandwidth was put into the game in the first place.
1. Spawn in Logi
2. Throw down a bunch of uplinks/nanohives/etc
3. Swap to Heavy
4. Earn double WP by killing and doing the Logi's work
Bandwidth is there so that each role keeps their niche in the battlefield and someone isn't trying to make points doing two different roles at the same time. If you want to earn WP from uplinks/nanohives, etc, you need to use a logi or a suit that has bandwidth.
If you want to be a heavy killing machine, you don't get to double dip and get WP from doing other people's job as well. That's fine for when you're running coordinated squads, but it hurts overall performance for anyone who likes running solo. You're basically making me half as effective as I could be for no reason at all.
Kail, I hear what you're saying. I was in your shoes at one time getting crushed. However, I was able to adapt and learn from it.
My primary playstyle when I play is as a solo Logi. I normally find a group running together and stay with them (I'm essentially a free squad member not giving WP towards an OB), I throw down uplinks, nanohives, and have my rep tool and needle handy to help. On certain CQC maps, I will throw some RE's on there and use those to help hold point objectives when people go through firelanes. I'm able to come up positive on KDR running a logi while also helping my team out.
If we need to have uplinks etc in play, I will stay in my logi. If we don't, I'll switch to a Commando/Heavy and help with the killing instead of the saving. However, it has to be a one or the other.
Adapting and overcoming is the way of life in New Eden. It's a hard lesson to learn but, once you do, you are be O.K.
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1
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Posted - 2015.07.10 23:47:00 -
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Heavies so fat they aint got no pockets!
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
715
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Posted - 2015.07.10 23:58:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I used to be against it.
But there are soooo many times that I'm one of the few people doing anything. You go kill a few dudes, take the point, but get overwhelmed. It would be nice if your uplink wouldn't pop when you spawn heavy to try keep the point.
It seems to me that this playerbase is such complete trash that we need to have Megazord suits that can convert back and forth from a tank to a suit with a mobile CRU, scanner, etc.
 where can I get the megazord? Totally putting a cru, complex scanner, armor hardener, missile turret on my shoulders, while dual welding scrambler riffles. |
Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1
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Posted - 2015.07.11 00:00:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I used to be against it.
But there are soooo many times that I'm one of the few people doing anything. You go kill a few dudes, take the point, but get overwhelmed. It would be nice if your uplink wouldn't pop when you spawn heavy to try keep the point.
It seems to me that this playerbase is such complete trash that we need to have Megazord suits that can convert back and forth from a tank to a suit with a mobile CRU, scanner, etc. where can I get the megazord? Totally putting a cru, complex scanner, armor hardener, missile turret on my shoulders, while dual welding scrambler riffles.
This right here.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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Thor Odinson42
Negative-Feedback
6
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Posted - 2015.07.11 00:26:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I used to be against it.
But there are soooo many times that I'm one of the few people doing anything. You go kill a few dudes, take the point, but get overwhelmed. It would be nice if your uplink wouldn't pop when you spawn heavy to try keep the point.
It seems to me that this playerbase is such complete trash that we need to have Megazord suits that can convert back and forth from a tank to a suit with a mobile CRU, scanner, etc. where can I get the megazord? Totally putting a cru, complex scanner, armor hardener, missile turret on my shoulders, while dual welding scrambler riffles. This right here.
It only unlocks when 6 people leave battle |
Thokk Nightshade
Montana Militia
1
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Posted - 2015.07.11 00:33:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Reign Omega wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I used to be against it.
But there are soooo many times that I'm one of the few people doing anything. You go kill a few dudes, take the point, but get overwhelmed. It would be nice if your uplink wouldn't pop when you spawn heavy to try keep the point.
It seems to me that this playerbase is such complete trash that we need to have Megazord suits that can convert back and forth from a tank to a suit with a mobile CRU, scanner, etc. where can I get the megazord? Totally putting a cru, complex scanner, armor hardener, missile turret on my shoulders, while dual welding scrambler riffles. This right here. It only unlocks when 6 people leave battle
So you can run it every match, then? Got it.
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
RUST415
272
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Posted - 2015.07.11 01:32:00 -
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Kail Mako wrote:Now, I'm not saying to give heavies an equipment slot, just make it so when I switch to my heavy all of my previous equipment doesn't self-destruct. As a mostly solo player I used to love laying links down with my logi then switching to my heavy. When they changed how equipment worked it got a lot harder for me to make sure everything is covered. I'm forced to either take myself out of the fight because I'm working on keeping my team supplied, or I have to hope my blues can keep up links while I'm fighting in the field.
The devs and many players were against people playing two roles. That's one reason that the bandwidth changes were done. |
benandjerrys
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
282
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Posted - 2015.07.11 01:33:00 -
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1.no
ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR
Support Dust/EvE cross content
We need live events discussion
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Cody Sietz
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
4
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Posted - 2015.07.11 01:35:00 -
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The point of bandwidth was to stop he's us from putting out uplinks.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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hails8n
DEATH BY DESTRUCTION
334
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Posted - 2015.07.11 01:51:00 -
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I used to be a forgegunner til the band with changes. How the hell am I supposed to set myself up with nanohives?
Get some life in your hands.
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
718
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Posted - 2015.07.11 01:55:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Reign Omega wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I used to be against it.
But there are soooo many times that I'm one of the few people doing anything. You go kill a few dudes, take the point, but get overwhelmed. It would be nice if your uplink wouldn't pop when you spawn heavy to try keep the point.
It seems to me that this playerbase is such complete trash that we need to have Megazord suits that can convert back and forth from a tank to a suit with a mobile CRU, scanner, etc. where can I get the megazord? Totally putting a cru, complex scanner, armor hardener, missile turret on my shoulders, while dual welding scrambler riffles. This right here. It only unlocks when 6 people leave battle
If it took 50 million sp and was a million isk a pop... I'd buy it.  |
Thokk Nightshade
Montana Militia
1
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Posted - 2015.07.11 02:14:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Reign Omega wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I used to be against it.
But there are soooo many times that I'm one of the few people doing anything. You go kill a few dudes, take the point, but get overwhelmed. It would be nice if your uplink wouldn't pop when you spawn heavy to try keep the point.
It seems to me that this playerbase is such complete trash that we need to have Megazord suits that can convert back and forth from a tank to a suit with a mobile CRU, scanner, etc. where can I get the megazord? Totally putting a cru, complex scanner, armor hardener, missile turret on my shoulders, while dual welding scrambler riffles. This right here. It only unlocks when 6 people leave battle If it took 50 million sp and was a million isk a pop... I'd buy it.
Spawn on uplink: camping scout NK's you in the back. 1mil down the drain. Lol. Saying that, I don't have 50 million SP total or I would down as well.
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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Bremen van Equis
Incorruptibles
562
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Posted - 2015.07.11 02:20:00 -
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No.
Buckle up, boysGǪthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2015.07.11 03:04:00 -
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Hey, an idea:
bandwidth for heavy suits - BUT MILITIA AND BASIC FRAMES!!!
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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Meee One
Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki
1
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Posted - 2015.07.11 03:11:00 -
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Kail Mako wrote:Now, I'm not saying to give heavies an equipment slot, just make it so when I switch to my heavy all of my previous equipment doesn't self-destruct. As a mostly solo player I used to love laying links down with my logi then switching to my heavy. When they changed how equipment worked it got a lot harder for me to make sure everything is covered. I'm forced to either take myself out of the fight because I'm working on keeping my team supplied, or I have to hope my blues can keep up links while I'm fighting in the field.
     
Nope.
Official Blueberry of the Forums.
Title given by my #1 fan Sgt Kirk.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
11
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Posted - 2015.07.11 03:34:00 -
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Short answer: no
Long answer: noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo *deep breath* oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
@Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2015.07.11 03:45:00 -
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@ OP: I agree. Enough bandwidth to run an uplink or a hive would be fine. Not gonna get a lot of uplink spam from one uplink per heavy, there's a serious lack of uplinks in pubs as it is - players, especially lonewolves, who fight for their team and the win are forced to spend a healthy portion of most matches switching out to uplink suits to ensure their team doesn't end up spawn trapped.
This ideology of hard-forcing suits into roles diminishes the game. It's generic cookie cutter thinking. Did it gain us any playerbase to cut heavies off from team-based gameplay? Lol no.
Why be hypocrites? We should do the same thing to vehicle pilots - your bandwidth goes to zero when you get in the pilot's seat.
PSN: RationalSpark
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
11
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Posted - 2015.07.11 05:08:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:We should do the same thing to vehicle pilots - your bandwidth goes to zero when you get in the pilot's seat. Of your entire post, this is the idea that made the most sense No double-dipping for WPs, even for pilots. If pilot dropsuits were ever implemented they should be given 0 bandwidth to fix this problem.
@Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
898
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Posted - 2015.07.11 06:23:00 -
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Take away the weapon slot. Yeah, I'm down with more bandwidth.
MY CPM2 PLATFORM
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Bremen van Equis
Incorruptibles
565
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Posted - 2015.07.11 09:55:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:We should do the same thing to vehicle pilots - your bandwidth goes to zero when you get in the pilot's seat. Of your entire post, this is the idea that made the most sense No double-dipping for WPs, even for pilots. If pilot dropsuits were ever implemented they should be given 0 bandwidth to fix this problem.
I'm also down with this...bump it over to featutres. One more reason for pilot suits.
I dont lay many high links anymore due to the camera bug that occurs for ADS pilots after we hop out to put down links.
PS: The new universal sign for "hop in my dropship...bring links" will be jump-crouch-crouch. 
Buckle up, boysGǪthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
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Nirwanda Vaughns
1
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Posted - 2015.07.11 10:09:00 -
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yeah must admit it'd be nice. most us vets are skilled into a huge variety of roles and sometimes you have to swap aroound a bit to get the job done. i'm primarily a logi but i also have all 4 heavies at proto too and if we need a forge gun or just a lot of firepower i'll swap over and 'poooof' all my uplinks i've put in some great places vanish. even if it was just 8mbps to keep a hive and an uplink active would be plenty
Please fix my C-II hitpoints!!
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Thokk Nightshade
Montana Militia
1
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Posted - 2015.07.11 16:20:00 -
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For those complaining they can't go from Logi to Heavy; assault & commando still have bandwidth so if you switched to either of those suits you would still have an uplink/nanohive.
You can't be raking in points for uplink spawns, resupplying, and healing with triage nanohives while at the time running around in a 1500 HP suit and the highest either alpha or constant DPS weapon in the game. Oh the humanity.
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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Larkson Crazy Eye
WarRavens
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
46
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Posted - 2015.07.11 16:38:00 -
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Eh I hate the bandwidth issue because if I even accidentally pick a heavy fit it destroys ALL my equipment on the map, which can be quite a few uplinks, prox mines, hives etc. That said I don't think other roles should be able to do that bait and switch play style either. That said I don't think it's entirely fair heavies are the only one so limited. At the proto level just about every other role has a fair amount of bandwidth. Enough for several links or explosives.
So the only unfair part about this I suppose is that every one else can do the bait and switch, to a moderate degree except heavies. |
Panthrax Oblivion
390
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Posted - 2015.07.11 17:51:00 -
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Slim Winning wrote:I know it's tough for a solo player... but what good is a solo heavy anyway?
Heavies need logis. Even with a logi, I consider them a free kill, lol
Clearly, u haven't seen me on the battlefield. I Look forward to it
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
Turbo controller sissies
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