Did they somehow hack into your account and trade them away when you weren't looking? No? You say you willing selected GIVE item and didn't get what was expected in return? Sorry friend that's not theft. It seriously sucks I agree and CCP should get us a proper trading system asap but let's not go crazy pretending this is something it's not. Next you'll try convincing me that piracy is something other than stealing **** on the high seas.

thats actually fraud not theft

aka scamming

thats actually fraud not theft from a legal standpoint.

fraud is a violation of a lgeal contract or agreement. any sales could as a legal agreement. theft however is the change of property without consent or legal agreement.

akafraud = scamming

it is YOU who do not understand the difference between froud and theft good sir

No, it's theft. Fraud is a specific form of theft. Scamming is also theft, but in Eve it's specifically allowed, I've not seen such an exemption in any of the Dust Terms of Use allowing it though.

i dont see a specific exemption alowinng people to leave their mics oipen with screaming children in the room either but aparently thats alowed....

you show a very clearn misunderstanding of how things work so im done here

scamming isnt a legal term... scam is the commons of fraud... they are one in the same. fraud and theft are two very different legal definitions.

Congratulations on using reductio ad absurdem like a child because they've been proven wrong. Specific exemptions for that is entirely unnecessary. It's discourteous, not illegal or even morally wrong. Your suggestion implies that they should have a specific exemption for everything that irritates you?

Theft is wrong, and moreover in any other game of its type is not tolerated and so a specific exemption is granted in EvE specifying that it is allowed and so to guard against it.

The misunderstanding is not mine, but yours for thinking that theft is allowed and normal behaviour and should be placed on the same level of behaviour as an open microphone. One hopes you're just trolling.

No, fraud and theft are almost the same legal definition. Fraud IS theft, or more importantly, a specific form of theft.

*slow clap* congratulations for reading a "forumwarrior" 101 manual aka debate theory

but its actually a relevent example

leaving an open mic on with screaming children in the room while your not activly using said mic is ALSO wrong. but in this instance right and wrong are defined prurely be legal and illegal, and in the world we live in things are legal untill they are expressly deemed illegal though judicial review. (case law being what tends to define these judgements)

so not only did you pull out debate theory 101 you used it incorrectly.

Between yesterday and today Ive lost 15mil isk and 2 skins. 15 Mil to Ali lol99 and 2 skins to a David L33 who is working wth whiteguy pasty white.

For the person who mistakenly sees this as theft and not fraud (and for the person who has exhausted all options save copy and pasting legal framework). The words "fraud by misrepresentation" came to mind, so I googled it to make sure.

"Fraud by Misrepresentation (or fraudulent misrepresentation) under Section 2 Fraud Act 2006

Section 2 Fraud Act 2006 sets out the framework of the classic fraud offence. The offence usually consists of some sort of dishonest statement made to gain something or so that someone else makes a loss. This offence is one that will often apply to an offence committed in business. The four necessary elements that must be proved in order to result in a conviction are:

A representation must be made
The representation must be known to be false
The representation must be dishonestly made
The person making the representation must intend to gain something, or intend that the person receiving it loses something"

Perhaps we should have an insterstellar court of justice?

Not going to happen. First off, Eve Online is played globally. How will you even convince the country to even charge the player if the developers were the ones that allowed it in the first place? Do you have any idea how many players in Eve steal and scam? You can safely assume almost all of them barring the new players. And even the new players will eventually turn to the dark side of Eve. You will have to practically arrest everyone who plays Eve Online because everything in Eve is tied somehow to real-world cash via the PLEX system.

Law school doesn't teach you jack **** about what happens when you become a victim of scamming and theft in a game that allows it because the devs allow it. We are talking about outliers here. Or as I call it, the grey areas of the video game industry. Is it really punishable in the real world when you commit a crime in a game that clearly allows it like Eve Online? If I were to scam you right now or rob your player corporation's ISK and assets in Eve, will that mean you can file charges against me in the real world court?

Unlike actual real-world farms like you mentioned, laws are not clearly defined when it comes to in-game shenanigans like you see here in Dust or Eve. Even if the law becomes updated later on to make them clearly defined, would the law accommodate for developers who actually allow such shenanigans in their games?