It's much less stressful if you just stick to FW.

If you play pubs, just ignore the objectives and focus on getting enough WP to get a payout. The "sandbox" play has drowned out any tactical play around the objectives.

Scotty's new ethos:

If you didn't sign off, and you didn't switch modes, you must have just love-love-LOVED that last match...so here you go...again.

SEND IN THE CLONES!!!

thats not my problem I'm not losing anything, whereas the people I am currently playing against (whom I have played with before) are running a squad of full proto (this can be confirmed as they each killed me at least once)

now the real problem begging when I take into account the blues I was playing with, I am in a squad with two relatively new players and I am playing against some of the most organized players I have played with, each match was practically a stomp as they flank around when the blind blues just stand there sure it wasn't a complete beat down but we are getting cloned almost every match

I have no problem playing against these guys but at least give me some competent players on my side it brings into question precious concerns for exploits with the matchmaking

but yeah you are right, I was just trying to get away from the lag I've been getting in FW

first few matches I played today and I get put up against the same squad all three games

I haven't had this problem before, so whats the deal

anyone else having this issue?

If every match were the same I would be ok I'd just make sure to be running in my own squad of proto but these are thing you dont expect to come across too often when you play with newbro's

Again, someone blaming the people that actually play the game vs all the ones on your side that are hiding.

There is absolutely no excuse for people not having ISK these days. If you are fortunate enough to find a team that's willing to fight it would be great for people to take the challenge and respond with better gear instead of gearing down and going into hiding.

It's much less stressful if you just stick to FW.

If you play pubs, just ignore the objectives and focus on getting enough WP to get a payout. The "sandbox" play has drowned out any tactical play around the objectives.

first few matches I played today and I get put up against the same squad all three games

I haven't had this problem before, so whats the deal

anyone else having this issue?

did you not get to the part where we got cloned? they weren't hiding we put up a good fight but a bunch of random unorganized blues (and some ok players) cant really compete against a good well organized squad and competent reds (although there were 2 or 3 that had a terrible KD such as myself not gonna lie) but when the enemy side is going mostly 10-2 or better and your team is getting the opposite with the exception of 4 or 5 players it's chaos

I was being my usual self and as soon as I saw any of these guys I hunted them down for fun, I just feel bad for the players that don't have the resources available to even try and compete

again they were running full proto squad so 4 very good players and a possibly more I didn't pay much attention to the others and It'd be good to hear the story from their side, so perhaps my side had good players but they weren't doing everything they could've or they were just not as organized as the enemy team was

When I go into a random squad finder and end up in matches with more newbros than vets I find the matches much more fun and the effort level across the board much higher.

In my opinion the problems we are having are more to do with veteran players who "farm" more than they fight.

I agree to some point and yes it can be a problem, I just want to understand what exactly is going on that I get put up against the same people so many times in a row, I'ts not like this is the first time I've seen them I expect to see people I know all the time I even add them to my watch list to keep track of who I come up against

I've been in matches with most of the YouTube guys and I have been in matches with the people I play FW with
those matches are some of the best as both sides seem to always put up a good fight

but when I am running around trying to have a chill time with newer players (I run mostly mlt fittings while I do this) I don't expect to see anyone other then a handful of people that do the same

Unless you play dom, you are in a small pool of players trying to go into battle.

Domination provides lazy gameplay for the masses. Try to take the objective, die twice, go snipe.

It's much less stressful if you just stick to FW.

If you play pubs, just ignore the objectives and focus on getting enough WP to get a payout. The "sandbox" play has drowned out any tactical play around the objectives.

What? It's less stressful in FW? Where the most common thing to see is the exact same team on the opposing side every single time? And if you got stomped last match, you'll get stomped every match afterward until the opposing team calls it quits? Last night or two nights ago, can't remember which, I couldn't get a single Gallente victory in, even though I'd played over ten Gal matches, because I was up against the same people every single time. My side certainly got some variety, though, since the losers kept getting frustrated and dropping out, only to be replaced by fresh faces who didn't know who they were up against. However, when I got into Minmatar matches, Minmatar was absolutely whooping the Amarr. Every single time. Which is great for me, because Minmatar gives me most of the gear I use.

Now don't get me wrong, I love FW no matter how much I hate it. I like that it's a competitive mode and I like that, despite the fact that it's competitive, you don't see as many absolute stompers. Apparently the full proto all day every day guys prefer going to pubs to get their easy kill fix. But there is no way going into FW is less stressful than pubstomps. In pubs at least you get variety in players every match. You've got better chances to win because there are enough people playing in pubs that you don't consistently run into the exact same people. In FW it's the same faces every day.

If we could get more people into FW it would become a much better arena, but the problem is that the people who keep FW alive are some of the roughest competition you can find outside of PC. And some of said FW brawlers take part in PC frequently, too. So it's not that it's a competitive place and it's hard that keeps people away. It's that you always see the same people and you know if you recognize a bunch of names you're going to lose. It keeps new faces very far away. My first couple of times in FW matches, I got wrecked so bad by the same group of people I didn't even consider FW again until four months later. At which point I got stomped again, but not as bad, and just stayed out until about a month or two ago. Thankfully I'm finally good enough to hold my own some of the time, but it took me nearly seven months to actually get to enjoy FW. Squadding up didn't help, either, it just got me into the matches and my face shoved into the dirt faster.

But no. FW is not less stressful unless you're on the side that's consistently winning.

sorry what?

The squads love you.

those guys are pretty chill if you play with them, not so much when you go against them

This 4 man squad idea finally snapped our poor broken scotty, seriously did no one else see this coming?

This 4 man squad idea finally snapped our poor broken scotty, seriously did no one else see this coming?

whose guys?

whose guys?

some of the old Cal FW players, the squad I was getting put up against

For a second I thought you was talking about those Incorruptible guys.


I ain't 'fraid of no Cal FW player.

Thinking that 4 man squads were going to someone be the cure all to droves of pub players putting up little to no effort was pretty stupid.

We'll continue to see the same forum people with their violins out for all the poor players who are just getting picked on, but hopefully some day there will be consensus that this is an FPS and requires all parties to shoot guns at each other for fun to happen.

thats not the problem

the problem is a LACK OF NEW CONTENT

you had anticipation of a new build with a few stat changes and an event and yet still player counts are BELOW 3000

folks want new content


been saying this for the past year and now its beginning to be noticeable that last gen is starting to die



a laaagy game with no destructability no new content no new missions no new weapons no new vehicles no new map packs of five to ten new maps and bugs, bugs!, BUGS!, BUUUUGS!!!!

sarcasm.....gee wonder why player counts are dropping......

thats not the problem

the problem is a LACK OF NEW CONTENT

you had anticipation of a new build with a few stat changes and an event and yet still player counts are BELOW 3000

folks want new content


been saying this for the past year and now its beginning to be noticeable that last gen is starting to die



a laaagy game with no destructability no new content no new missions no new weapons no new vehicles no new map packs of five to ten new maps and bugs, bugs!, BUGS!, BUUUUGS!!!!

sarcasm.....gee wonder why player counts are dropping......

Get rid of bugs, or get new ****, you can't have both. Stop bitching, go back to sucking on the PS4 and leave your salty ass there.

b i t c h..................please.

Digital Extremes does new content and bug fixes
Ubisoft new content and bug fixes
EA bug fixes and new content
Bungie bug fixes and new content
Zenimax bug fixes and new content
CD Project Red bug fixes and new content

but ccp?......lol!

Digital Extremes does new content and bug fixes
Ubisoft new content and bug fixes
EA bug fixes and new content
Bungie bug fixes and new content
Zenimax bug fixes and new content
CD Project Red bug fixes and new content

but ccp?......lol!