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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.07.08 12:43:00 -
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Several things happened while you were away....
- A warbarge subsystem was implemented that provides you with a handful of officer weapons/dropsuits each day. At level 1 you receive 2 pieces of officer gear every 24 hours. Not sure how many level 5 gives you.
- Player trading was enabled. People who have no use for officer weapon X can now give it to another player for an officer weapon they actually have SP in.
- Strongboxes occasionally drop officer gear.
- If you open 10 strongboxes at once you are guaranteed at least one rare item. In most cases this is a piece of officer gear.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.07.08 14:17:00 -
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Z3dog wrote:Hmmm hmmm yes. If only someone had seen this coming and the potential problems involved. I am not seeing a problem here. It isn't as if the options I described are restricted to specific players. You can open strongboxes, you have a warbarge, you can trade for officer weapons. Nothing is stopping you from fitting officer weapons too.
Fight fire with fire.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.07.08 14:29:00 -
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Z3dog wrote:It's a cash grab. How do you figure? The only thing restricted in the slightest is player trading that unlocks at loyalty rank 2. Everything else is available to a free player on day 1.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.07.08 14:41:00 -
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Z3dog wrote:BARAGAMOS wrote:HE IS TALKNG ABOUT THE GAME IN GENERAL...
LITERACY IS REALLY OP ON HERE. yes yes it is. These are the people that CCP pays attention to. THIS IS THE COMMUNITY THAT ELECTS REPRESENTATIVES. THIS IS WHY WE ARE WHERE WE ARE. And we are saying the game, in general, is not a cash grab. You can obtain things through play. This is a F2P game, fellas. That means you pick 'Do I want to spend time?' or 'Do I want to spend money?' to get X thing.
APEX dropsuits: FW grind or AUR
Boosters: missions or AUR
SKINs: FW, strongboxes, or AUR
Officer weapons: warbarge, player trading, or strongboxes (all can be sped up with AUR purchases)
See how the F2P payment model works now?
Z3dog wrote:Paying players get access to more things sooner, not based on their work, instead how much money they've given to CCP. Now you are getting it! That is exactly how F2P games are constructed  They count on you becoming impatient with the grinding or having to wait for X item to drop from a strongbox and just spending money instead.
I knew you could do it!
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.07.08 15:12:00 -
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Z3dog wrote:What you fail to grasp is that a non paying player cannot compete with a regularly paying player. the issues have a spectrum that range from quality of equipment, the frequency of that equipment, and the financial benefits. The key word is CANNOT. Not might not. THEY CANNOT COMPETE RIPLEY. What advantages are given to a paying player that a free player cannot obtain?
A free player can play matches and earn ISK just like paying players can. Free players can accumulate ISK with starter or standard/militia fittings in pubs. Free players can earn loyalty rank 2 then sell their officer drops for ISK as well. I bought some Krin's ARs from a guy who has not purchased AUR before. He got a fat wad of ISK from me and has not spent a cent on this game.
Again, paying customers can accumulate ISK faster. That goes back to my original point: 'Do I want to spend money?' or 'Do I want to spend time?'
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.07.08 15:24:00 -
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Z3dog wrote:They cannot obtain the advantages paying players receive. A non paying player cannot earn 100,000 sp in a single battle for example. Contrary to what you imagine money in exchange for time is not a requirement for a f2p game. The only way I know of to obtain 100k SP per match involves an Instant Boost exploit... pretty certain this is not intended behavior.
Z3dog wrote:Contrary to what you imagine money in exchange for time is not a requirement for a f2p game. It is not a requirement, no, but it funds a game better than 100% vanity item sales. SKINs are great and like you I hope that CCP continues to iterate on SKINs. I'm under no illusion that they can sustain the game's development purely on SKIN sales though.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.07.08 15:32:00 -
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Radiant Pancake3 wrote:No if you put in the time and effort with alts and about I dunno 15 PSNs you couldd make what 50-100 officer weapons within 2 every 2 days. You would need to play all of those alts to loyalty rank 2 before you could actually send those weapons to anyone.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.07.08 15:38:00 -
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Z3dog wrote:[Couldn't I transfer isk and use that to pay for the officer weapons? If the alt is on a separate PSN account then you will have to raise your loyalty rank to 2 before they can send items to anyone. You can only earn loyalty rank by playing matches, earning WPs, earning victories, logging in daily, and purchasing aurum. Rank 2 would probably involve 3-ish weeks of steady almost daily play, if I can recall. That's for each alt account. Then you have to grind the warbarge component needed to upgrade your warbarge to V and unlock the experimental labs lab.
TL;DR - Using the warbarge to farm officer weapons is much harder than Mr. Pancakes is making it out to be.
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