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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.07.04 21:12:00 -
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killertojo42 wrote:I know, I understand if they just recharge modules in redline then sprint out with AV being rediculous but it's just boring to tank now
HAVs cost too much.
They are not disposable assets, therefore you always, always ALWAYS lose 4-7 matches worth of payout if you die in a proto tank.
Plus the redline being "safe" just means there's only going to be yo-yo play.
And the reason there's so much AV? Because for most people, killing a moderately intelligent tank driver requires two people or more.
Plus there's free swarm starter fits that everyone can swap to.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.07.04 21:34:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:AV feels the same way. In Chromosome, AV and vehicles used to have long, drawn out fights.
Things are different now. I'm not sure whether they are better or worse.
I find it lacking in fun.
Because of the cost, drivers and pilots wind up reverting to the most risk-averse idiocy, or they exclusively run fits like 2x rep/2x hardener.
It's gotten old. The Sagaris in chrome were actually a lot easier to solo than what we have now on the madrugar side. The current madrugar takes hits like the surya if you fit 'em right.
If tanks didn't cost more than 3-4x the cost of an equivalent AV fit (they cost somewhere in the neighborhood of 10x) we could justify giving them more bite and bringing the defenses down to "powerful, but not too obnoxious"
my objective for HAV balance is right around "Average Sagaris fit from chrome"
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.07.04 22:01:00 -
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killertojo42 wrote:It's hardners, I'd personally debuff hardners, debuff AV minus the forge gun which is supposed to be the most most powerful AV weapon, hell a proto forge should hit even shield harder than a proto PLC, the unnerf base tank HP and there you go, the reintroduction of proto HAVs is no longer bumpy
None of this solves the problems. It makes them worse. Picking factors at a whim is never a good idea.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.07.04 22:13:00 -
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killertojo42 wrote:just my thoughts breakin stuff but everything you see in regards to AV and vehicles is based around hardners so change starts there if anything
That's actually correct. But on the backend it's also passive reps.
Full skilled gv.0 can pull about 167 reps/sec with a single rep mod.
The break point can be argued as reps as well but nerfing both brings us back to UP maddies.
There's a stupid number of factors.
Then there's the fact that minimum engagement times with various AV options range from 25 seconds to LOLinvulnerable.
Swarms break that curve. PLC would be where I feel they need to be with a 5% reload speed buff and the shield module nerf on vehicles completely reverted.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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