DUST Search - Science Dust Question Who would win in a war ?

Joel II X wrote:

Mobius Wyvern wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

veccer wrote:

very interisting your comments, I didnt know about the height of Dust soldiers or their organs or the radiation of their guns

It might also interest you to know that the clones you fight in. The bodies you use in game are called stock clones. It' basically means they are the cheapest to produce. They lack pigmentation of the skin, have generic features, no hair at all, and red eyes.

I also think they've been confirmed to have much greater physical strength to the point where even a clone in a scout suit could tear a man in half Mortal Kombat style.

More than any of that, the biggest advantage of immortal soldiers is thus:

We can learn from any mistake.

There are only so many mistakes that a mortal can learn from and correct, as far more of those will kill him. We can learn from every single time we die and grow smarter and stronger from it.

That's pretty ******* daunting.

Who is this "we"? There are blueberries that fall for the same trick over and over again.

Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.


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True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.07.03 03:53:00 - [1] - Quote veccer wrote: U.S Army or a Dust 514 'army' (Im not talking about eve ships bc they could wipe the earth ) but Is the dust Army more advanced than U.S army? (I choose the U.S army because is the strongest in the world but i will aprecciate every response) What you have to realise is that there are effectively two kinds of soldier in New Eden. Immortals like us, and mortals like the rank and file soldier of the Empires. Both would undeniably crush the modern American army and both a huge advantage in terms of technological superiority. Immortals like us simply cannot be killed and given I'd suggest that concept alone would drive even a small army of immortal cloned soldiers through to victory. It is because as clones we can employ tactics that are too dangerous, too crazy, hell we can even use ourselves as fodder to shock and horrify the common soldier. Cloned soldiers are also incredible feats of biological engineering in their own right. We stand at 2.5m tall, our muscles have significantly greater mass and density than normal men's, our bones are reinforced with titanium alloys, and we have redundant organs in case other fail. If that is not enough the weapons we can use have significantly more power to them. Lore establishes that if mortal men tried to fire our weapons they would likely break their arms from the recoil, suffer horrific radiation poisoning, might even out rightly be killed. E.G - The heat generated by Laser weapons would bore through most common body armours, cut limbs apart with a surgical precision, etc. If we talk about mortal soldiers even then the New Eden counter parts would win. Not just for having superior weapons and armour technologies but also because they are more numerous. Trillions of people live in the Amarr Empire alone, Millions comprise it's armed forces. Moreover elite groups like Kamiera's can fight with fanatical conviction while other groups like the Cyber Knights employ incredibly advanced tactics and technologies. Plus OB's....... OB's would wreck a modern military force. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.07.03 04:07:00 - [2] - Quote veccer wrote: very interisting your comments, I didnt know about the height of Dust soldiers or their organs or the radiation of their guns It might also interest you to know that the clones you fight in. The bodies you use in game are called stock clones. It' basically means they are the cheapest to produce. They lack pigmentation of the skin, have generic features, no hair at all, and red eyes. I also think they've been confirmed to have much greater physical strength to the point where even a clone in a scout suit could tear a man in half Mortal Kombat style. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.07.03 04:08:00 - [3] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: You'd think 20,000 years in the future technology would improve vastly. It has. Though admittedly it's not 20,000 years direct progression. It's 20,000 years after having rebuilt during an apocalyptic dark age on very different homeworlds. Also I don't know about you but discovering templates of alien technologies for inter-galactic warp travel might have helped too. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.07.03 04:14:00 - [4] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: True Adamance wrote: veccer wrote: very interisting your comments, I didnt know about the height of Dust soldiers or their organs or the radiation of their guns It might also interest you to know that the clones you fight in. The bodies you use in game are called stock clones. It' basically means they are the cheapest to produce. They lack pigmentation of the skin, have generic features, no hair at all, and red eyes. I also think they've been confirmed to have much greater physical strength to the point where even a clone in a scout suit could tear a man in half Mortal Kombat style. Nanite enhanced muscles along with an extremely high body temperature. Which is funny because if you make a scope that could detect heat signatures all clones would light up like a star. Oooooh didn't know about the body temperature. COOL! Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.07.03 04:20:00 - [5] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: True Adamance wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: True Adamance wrote: veccer wrote: very interisting your comments, I didnt know about the height of Dust soldiers or their organs or the radiation of their guns It might also interest you to know that the clones you fight in. The bodies you use in game are called stock clones. It' basically means they are the cheapest to produce. They lack pigmentation of the skin, have generic features, no hair at all, and red eyes. I also think they've been confirmed to have much greater physical strength to the point where even a clone in a scout suit could tear a man in half Mortal Kombat style. Nanite enhanced muscles along with an extremely high body temperature. Which is funny because if you make a scope that could detect heat signatures all clones would light up like a star. Oooooh didn't know about the body temperature. COOL! Templar One Figured. Also Galm rather interestingly confirmed we can be infomorphic as the Templars were effectively locked in a holding computer programme for a time. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.07.03 04:45:00 - [6] - Quote Terry Webber wrote: Well, DUST mercs have futuristic technology, learn from their mistakes after every death, and can call in airstrikes from starships. The US Army is the strongest armed force in the world, provides formal military training and helped end two world wars. You be the judge. ..... well admittedly there are very few combat worth survivors of those world wars....unless Captain America counts..... Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.07.03 04:55:00 - [7] - Quote veccer wrote: Im a proudly Ammar and I hate minmmatars also but men their guns are so powerful anyway Im Khanid Do you now something about them? Man this is like an Eve history class,I didnt most of the things and im glad to hear more, True Adamance The only point humans made was the detection of heat of the Mercs Khanid are a people whom the Amarr made a pact with on their homeworld of Athra [Now known as Amarr Prime] in order to defeat the Udorian city states [My character's true ethnicity] and were well known as strong warriors with whom the Amarr could work to conquer Asimia, the main continent next to Amarr Isle. Now at one point the Khanid something of an Heir Family within the Empire, aka one of several noble houses with a direct line of ascendancy to the Imperial Throne, however recently seceded after their Heir Khanid II refused to commit Sahthol'Syn, a form of ritual suicide during which the remaining nobles whom competed for the throne and failed kill themselves so no questions remain over who is most worthy. He basically nicked off with an some titans and formed his own kingdom next to Amarr sovereign space. When he did this he sent an inverted royal crest to the Theological Council who are the religious authority in the Empire, as if to suggest that he considered the secular laws of man more important to the divine edicts of God. However he was allowed to reconcile with the Imperial Throne and can sit in on Council meetings though is no longer an Heir to the Throne. Also worth noting is that the Khanid have a particular kind of soldier unique to them called Cyber Knights. These guys are people who have cybernetically augmented their bodies and train to become elite soldiers in small close knit Subigo Houses. There are two kinds of Knights. Practicals or Modernists who focus on fire arms and technological supremacy in combat while there are traditionalists who tend to focus on archaic weapons systems and close quarters combat. The Khanid also have pretty decent ties to the Caldari and use missile systems primarily as offensive technologies and not the traditional Amarrian lasers. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.07.03 05:04:00 - [8] - Quote VAHZZ wrote: Koldy Lyte Marven wrote: True Adamance wrote: Our muscles have significantly greater mass and density than normal men's, . Scouts... "Could easily tear a man in half Mortal Kombat style" - True Adamance. You got beef with us scouts, Koldy? Are we weaker than mortal men in your opinion? Yeah but a Sentinel could tear you in half mortal kombat style and he'd wouldn't even have to use his hands...... Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.07.03 08:00:00 - [9] - Quote VAHZZ wrote: veccer wrote: Wow True adamance you know everything xD you should, MUST be the best ammar representative of all Actually, i would argue Aero Yassavi knows more. But True and Aero are the biggest lore nerds in New Eden. Oh bro you have said something you can't take back. Bet you ten dollars Aero couldn't as of this moment recount the entire history of the Amarr from the Dark Ages to the Post Space Flight. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.07.03 08:02:00 - [10] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: veccer wrote: U.S Army or a Dust 514 'army' (Im not talking about eve ships bc they could wipe the earth ) but Is the dust Army more advanced than U.S army? (I choose the U.S army because is the strongest in the world but i will aprecciate every response) U.S. Marines can kick the U.S. Army's ass with MacGyvered silly string and PEZ dispensers. What do you think replaceable clones in runny, jumpy, myoed, dodge your bullets armored/shielded suits are going to do? Punch a hole in a marine two fists wide sending pulping the internal organs beneath and spraying that mess all over the next Marine. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.07.04 00:45:00 - [11] - Quote Radiant Pancake3 wrote: EternalRMG wrote: Lol our mercs have planets whose sole purpose is to manufacture equipment for them and our mercs are inmortal A dust army can literally drown the us army on the blood of the clones. Dust army is incredibly mor advanced than the US army The mers have handheld railguns, Shields, Selfrepping armour. The best thing the US army has is a 1-use only destroyer-mounted railgun They could nuke us all... I love this misconception that people assume the Empires of New Eden haven't already created nuclear warheads or something more powerful. One Barrage from a Large Turret equipped to a Battleship destroyed and entire city. Now knowing that cities in New Eden are larger and made of significantly more advanced/strong materials I'd say that any Empire could put two battleships in orbit around the planet and decimate us all over the course of a day. Even if they had to put soldiers planetside the amount of people Empires like the Gallente or the Amarr could deploy would be in the tens of millions, with more tanks, more powerful rifles, more destructive weapons of mass destruction, hell the New Eden Empires could recruit faster and in greater numbers as well. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.07.04 02:22:00 - [12] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: True Adamance wrote: veccer wrote: very interisting your comments, I didnt know about the height of Dust soldiers or their organs or the radiation of their guns It might also interest you to know that the clones you fight in. The bodies you use in game are called stock clones. It' basically means they are the cheapest to produce. They lack pigmentation of the skin, have generic features, no hair at all, and red eyes. I also think they've been confirmed to have much greater physical strength to the point where even a clone in a scout suit could tear a man in half Mortal Kombat style. More than any of that, the biggest advantage of immortal soldiers is thus: We can learn from any mistake. There are only so many mistakes that a mortal can learn from and correct, as far more of those will kill him. We can learn from every single time we die and grow smarter and stronger from it. That's pretty ******* daunting. Who is this "we"? There are blueberries that fall for the same trick over and over again. And yet they'd never die. It wouldn't even matter. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.