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Summa Militum
Art.of.Death
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Posted - 2015.07.01 16:57:00 -
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Strafing was a good way to counter auto-aim in CQC because you could for the most part just move faster than auto-aim could keep up with. Now that strafe and movement speed has been altered I say it is time to do away with auto-aim.
The way I see it is if people want to remove "broken" game mechanics it would make sense to start off by removing auto-aim before you start screwing with a person's dropsuit. |
Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.07.01 17:00:00 -
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But how else will I get kills?
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.01 17:06:00 -
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.07.01 17:09:00 -
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I would be all for this, but only along side with removing kb/m support.
One can't exist without other.
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Civire Bloodline
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DR DEESE NUTS
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Posted - 2015.07.01 17:18:00 -
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Remove aim-assists now. Please ccp.
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DeadlyAztec11
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
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Posted - 2015.07.01 17:19:00 -
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Aim assist is not even strong in this game.
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DAAAA BEAST
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
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Posted - 2015.07.01 17:19:00 -
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Even tho I sign , it would be harsh for new players coming from othet FPS that are used to different sensitivity.
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.07.01 17:20:00 -
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Yes, remove aim assist yesterday.
"Madness how we turned our common-ground into a battle-ground.." - Essa
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Summa Militum
Art.of.Death
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Posted - 2015.07.01 17:20:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:I would be all for this, but only along side with removing kb/m support.
One can't exist without other.
This is true. |
Supernus Gigas
The Cooked Goose Coalition
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Posted - 2015.07.01 17:21:00 -
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It's bizarre, Aim Assist has existed in basically every console FPS ever, yet I have never seen people bitching about it more than in Dust.
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.07.01 17:22:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:I would be all for this, but only along side with removing kb/m support.
One can't exist without other.
I don't know if you are aware but there really is no "KB/M Support" to begin with. My old mouse setup was clunky at best, my new Roccat mouse n keyboard setup is abysmal in this game.
I kid you not It takes multiple full scrolls of my mouse mat just to peak left or right, let alone turn around. (Yes 100% sensitivity with no mouse smoothing)
It's so incredibly slow that I cant even move my mouse far enough for it to activate weapons and equipment in the equipment rose thing. Imagine trying to play like that.
"Madness how we turned our common-ground into a battle-ground.." - Essa
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Magnus Belmont
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.01 17:23:00 -
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You've never really tested out the aim assist to see what it actually does for your aiming have you?
Get a buddy to sync against you, stand still, and have him run in front of you at different speeds. You'll realize how stupid you calling it "auto aim" really is :/
But it really wouldn't bother me if they removed it anyway, I find it screws up my aim more often then it actually helps it to be honest. |
Spaceman-Rob
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.07.01 17:25:00 -
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Never going to happen, CCP are not brave enough to take such a bold step  |
Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.07.01 17:27:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Mejt0 wrote:I would be all for this, but only along side with removing kb/m support.
One can't exist without other. I don't know if you are aware but there really is no "KB/M Support" to begin with. My old mouse setup was clunky at best, my new Roccat mouse n keyboard setup is abysmal in this game. I kid you not It takes multiple full scrolls of my mouse mat just to peak left or right, let alone turn around. (Yes 100% sensitivity with no mouse smoothing) It's so incredibly slow that I cant even move my mouse far enough for it to activate weapons and equipment in the equipment rose thing. Imagine trying to play like that.
When i took m/kb for a quick test, it felt good.
Way more accurate even in Dust.
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.07.01 17:30:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Mejt0 wrote:I would be all for this, but only along side with removing kb/m support.
One can't exist without other. I don't know if you are aware but there really is no "KB/M Support" to begin with. My old mouse setup was clunky at best, my new Roccat mouse n keyboard setup is abysmal in this game. I kid you not It takes multiple full scrolls of my mouse mat just to peak left or right, let alone turn around. (Yes 100% sensitivity with no mouse smoothing) It's so incredibly slow that I cant even move my mouse far enough for it to activate weapons and equipment in the equipment rose thing. Imagine trying to play like that. When i took m/kb for a quick test, it felt good. Way more accurate even in Dust.
If it truly 'felt good' would you mind telling me what KB/M setup you were using, also was it wireless usb stick or wired usb plug in?
I just can't for the life of me use controllers.
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.07.01 17:45:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Mejt0 wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Mejt0 wrote:I would be all for this, but only along side with removing kb/m support.
One can't exist without other. I don't know if you are aware but there really is no "KB/M Support" to begin with. My old mouse setup was clunky at best, my new Roccat mouse n keyboard setup is abysmal in this game. I kid you not It takes multiple full scrolls of my mouse mat just to peak left or right, let alone turn around. (Yes 100% sensitivity with no mouse smoothing) It's so incredibly slow that I cant even move my mouse far enough for it to activate weapons and equipment in the equipment rose thing. Imagine trying to play like that. When i took m/kb for a quick test, it felt good. Way more accurate even in Dust. If it truly 'felt good' would you mind telling me what KB/M setup you were using, also was it wireless usb stick or wired usb plug in? I just can't for the life of me use controllers.
It was wired. Gaming mouse with adjustable DPI.
Any mouse with adjustable DPI will work really.
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DDx77
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.07.01 18:10:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:I would be all for this, but only along side with removing kb/m support.
One can't exist without other.
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I was going to post the same thing.
You would have to remove KB/M if you got rid of auto aim.
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.07.01 18:16:00 -
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1. Removing aim assist will make dust hard for new players and will make dust die after time from lack of players.
2. If you remove AA, you must also remove kb/m support
3. Dust will die and it will be your own fault for not tanking enough, not using kincats to strafe, or for being an idiot who has an easy option of turning it on and getting an advantage over enemy because you want to play "hard mode" you wanna play hard mode? Don't fit anything except weapons and take off Hud.
Now stop crying.
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Indianna Pwns
TERRA R1SING
New Eden's Heros
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Posted - 2015.07.01 18:48:00 -
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Thumbsticks are so inaccurate and clunky. Watch this video are you sure you want aim assist removed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD0Hwaumbc4 |
postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
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Posted - 2015.07.01 18:54:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Aim assist is not even strong in this game.
I do not use AimAss now, but i remember when one of clanmates told be about AimAss in dust and destiny.
I tried and i can tell AimAss in dust is nothing (morelikely it will hurt you aimimng more than helping), what i saw in destiny.
All shots roughly half meter around head instant headshots XD
But back to topic.
About AimAss..I dont care, becuase i dont use boyko ;)
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Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.07.01 19:14:00 -
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Turn it off yourself if you don't like it.
It smoothes out gameplay quite a bit, and is a core feature of almost any modern shooter.
It is self balancing as every rifle benefits equally from it.
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
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Posted - 2015.07.01 19:17:00 -
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Talos Vagheitan wrote:Turn it off yourself if you don't like it.
It smoothes out gameplay quite a bit, and is a core feature of almost any modern shooter.
It is self balancing as every rifle benefits equally from it.
I found more easy to kill someone with AimAss off
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Raptor Princess
ALLOTEC INC
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Posted - 2015.07.01 22:15:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Mejt0 wrote:I would be all for this, but only along side with removing kb/m support.
One can't exist without other. I don't know if you are aware but there really is no "KB/M Support" to begin with. My old mouse setup was clunky at best, my new Roccat mouse n keyboard setup is abysmal in this game. I kid you not It takes multiple full scrolls of my mouse mat just to peak left or right, let alone turn around. (Yes 100% sensitivity with no mouse smoothing) It's so incredibly slow that I cant even move my mouse far enough for it to activate weapons and equipment in the equipment rose thing. Imagine trying to play like that.
Exactly! I use a Bluetooth mouse/keyboard and it's pretty dire at the best of times. I can't strafe and aim nearly as well as my friend with a controller can, because the aim assist seems to track the enemy for them.
You also can't turn around quick enough to actually kill someone who comes up behind you. Even attempting to as fast as I can isn't quick enough to stop a logi with an assault rifle outside its optimum range taking out my sentinel.
Aim assist doesn't need to be removed entirely, just toned down a great deal to put it on par with m/kb
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MrCriminal High Power
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Posted - 2015.07.01 22:20:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:1. Removing aim assist will make dust hard for new players and will make dust die after time from lack of players.
2. If you remove AA, you must also remove kb/m support
3. Dust will die and it will be your own fault for not tanking enough, not using kincats to strafe, or for being an idiot who has an easy option of turning it on and getting an advantage over enemy because you want to play "hard mode" you wanna play hard mode? Don't fit anything except weapons and take off Hud.
Now stop crying.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.07.01 22:41:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:
It was wired. Gaming mouse with adjustable DPI.
Any mouse with adjustable DPI will work really.
I won't sign the any part, but adjustable DPI is the key. That way you really can reach fast turns.
...Not that it makes MKB superior, no. Not in dust. There are still other natural and artificial handicaps in place.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.07.01 22:52:00 -
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I seriously doubt if aim assist and bullet magnetism work for blueberries.
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CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
571
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Posted - 2015.07.02 04:02:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Never going to happen, CCP are not brave enough to take such a bold step
 Not quoting you to try to make fun of you, Spaceman Rob. It's just that, well, you had to be there in all the months leading up to the creation of Dust's Aim Assist, to say with certainty that it would take "boldness" to REMOVE it from the game.
LOL, it took "Boldness" (with stones big enough to make you men run away; with enough courage to take the risk of caring democratically about the weakest players in an fps as much as the strongest players; with guts enough to take a chance that NOBODY else in fps titles was forward-thinking enough to try )GǪ it took that much boldness to CREATE it and put in IN the game.
GǪIt wouldn't take much to remove Aim-Assist and go back to the wasteland we had, of 20% elite supervillains owning the maps, and 80% nervous players cowering on the edges of town or trying desperately not to get gang-assaulted in rooms, feeling like oppressed nerds, hoping one day for some kind of nerd-revenge, and wondering why they keep trying again to play this Dust-thing.
All it would take to go back to that period in the game,GǪ is for CCP to go on a 72-hour binge of hashish, followed by 60 hours of crack-pipe use.
And I thank the Amar heavens that CCP seems too level-headed a team of people to ever do that.  I'm happily confident that that the Dust Aim-Assist will stay right where it belongs. ON. Rock on.
Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne...
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