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Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.06.29 16:21:00 -
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You can't use a Modded controller with it.
If you really, really want to fix it. Convince the Devs to put a cap or a Max Rate of Fire to prevent it being shot like an assault rifle and to increase the damage ever so slightly.
Look now you have a true Semi Auto Rifle. |
Sicerly Yaw
Quantum times
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Posted - 2015.06.29 16:27:00 -
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why would you increase already high damage?
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.06.29 16:28:00 -
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To compensate for the RoF. If you cap it, Modded controllers are literally no use to the weapon, and it will be a whole new play style for it. |
Sicerly Yaw
Quantum times
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Posted - 2015.06.29 16:34:00 -
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I understand that but the damage does not need to be increased, the cap can be put in place without messing with the intended dps as long as the delay between shots is precise if you fire over that delay it will slow down the rate of fire similarl to how the CR and burst AR work
in fact if it was made into a burst ScR it would work better and I would even recommend the charge to take up more ammo so that the damage put out would be equal to the bullets used up
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.06.29 16:50:00 -
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I'm all for a Charge Variant as well, but it seems as if other variants for Amarr Weapons are not going to happen.
You do have a point with the timing and all of the gun. I'm merely taking my Idea from Destiny. Their Scout Rifle is made that way with High DPS, low RoF to prevent misuse of a Modded Controller or Fast Fingers. |
Larkson Crazy Eye
WarRavens D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2015.06.29 16:51:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:I understand that but the damage does not need to be increased, the cap can be put in place without messing with the intended dps as long as the delay between shots is precise if you fire over that delay it will slow down the rate of fire similarl to how the CR and burst AR work
in fact if it was made into a burst ScR it would work better and I would even recommend the charge to take up more ammo so that the damage put out would be equal to the bullets used up
Well I don't think it really needs the charge shot messed with. Sure it does fair dmg but it's a long charge for a mid range weapon and it cost 5x the heat for a shot that can very likely miss since mid targets moving at that close of range can be hard to hit with a single shot rate of fire. Even with Amarr Assault to level 5 it takes about half your heat bar for that single shot while doing only 3 times the damage. Considering you can spam about 12-13 normal shots for the same amount it's pretty fair imo. Save some ammo, waste a lot of DPS/heat to conserve ammo and maybe pick off weaker targets without them knowing your there.
The spam fire via turbo controllers is an issue, though not as bad with SCR as with other selective fire weapons imo. The SCR at least over heats at around 25 rounds out of 30. Tac riffles can spam their whole clips back in the day. While people say they have nerfed them to some degree I still see Tac riffles firing as fast as a sub machine gun at times. |
Genral69 death
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.06.29 16:52:00 -
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People are always complaing about the fire rate. But to actually be good with the scrambled rifle you need it at level 5, the suit and the weapon itself . Even then after a charged shot your most likely to over heat . Now people keep saying its 'OP' but why. Yes ill admit its to good against caldari , bit shield could do with a buff anyway rather than nurfing the scr It's good at stripping min assaults of thee shield then submachine gunning them to death . Ass min assault ar hard to keep up with the scr is the best weapon for killing them . Meaning that the assault rifle just doesn't cut though there shield quick enough. Gal assault are difficult if you don't catch them by surprize. As most of them are wirlding a assault rail rifle which will strip the Amar assault of hos beloved Amor. And finally amarr assault. Ots not great you can get rid of this shield but your gonna have a rough time with the Amor. No matter how many people say it kills my heavy to quick. The scr isn't great ay dealing with Amor heavys. Theres no way u can get him before he gets you
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
442
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Posted - 2015.06.29 17:14:00 -
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Note that I have the ScR maxes out and Proto Amarr Suits. |
Larkson Crazy Eye
WarRavens D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2015.06.29 17:17:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote: And finally amarr assault. Ots not great you can get rid of this shield but your gonna have a rough time with the Amor. No matter how many people say it kills my heavy to quick. The scr isn't great ay dealing with Amor heavys. Theres no way u can get him before he gets you
To be fair heavies are always the hardest thing for a SCR to really kill. If you charge up the shot you will over heat before they die, if you spam it you'll still probably over heat before they die. At longer ranges the dmg is so small most armor heavies rep faster than you can hurt them. That said you can kill armor heavies before they can kill you. It's sort of a scout approach though, you have to get the first shot, preferably from at least a flank so they have to turn around first. But mostly you have to be accurate. The SCR is an extremely accurate weapon if you know what your doing. You have to use this against heavies and aim high. At least half your shots had better be head shots if you want to kill them first. |
Pierced Daddy
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.29 17:21:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:You can't use a Modded controller with it.
If you really, really want to fix it. Convince the Devs to put a cap or a Max Rate of Fire to prevent it being shot like an assault rifle and to increase the damage ever so slightly.
Look now you have a true Semi Auto Rifle. Yes you can. Some modded controllers have a button on the back that allows to turn on or off rapid firing.
Even if they adjust rate of fire, modded controllers.can also be adjusted to fit standards. |
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Loving UNCLE
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2015.06.29 17:24:00 -
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We should remove the overheat from the ScR. It's not fair to be in a gun battle and overheat. The AR doesn't. .neither should ScR. |
Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.06.29 17:37:00 -
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It should be like a scrambler pistol.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.06.29 18:27:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:It should be like a scrambler pistol. Crappy?
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.29 18:38:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:You can't use a Modded controller with it.
If you really, really want to fix it. Convince the Devs to put a cap or a Max Rate of Fire to prevent it being shot like an assault rifle and to increase the damage ever so slightly.
Look now you have a true Semi Auto Rifle. There is allready a max rate of fire on it and that is 600 rounds per minute. Or are you incapable of reading the stat chart in the game itself?
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.06.29 18:44:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:It should be like a scrambler pistol. Hell the f#ck no!!! Rattati destroyed everything good about the scp to the point of it slightly being a more viable novelty item like the ion pistol.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2015.06.29 18:53:00 -
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I don't know why fire rate even gets brought up, because the tactical AR has the exact same rate of fire with more damage, so if there is an issue, it's definitely not ROF.
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